Caly 3 vs Sage 1

EZ Bake said:
Hmmm. You are correct sir. That's strange that Eric Glesser wouldn't realize that :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTSaVW0XSO0&feature=player_detailpage#t=170s
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Depends on what you consider a bushing. To me, what the Endura, Delica, Stretch, and possibly other Spyderco midlocks have, are not bushings, they're just washers. Bushings, to me, are sleeve bearings. They either go between a fixed mass and a moving shaft (or visa-versa), as with crankshaft bushings, or between a moving mass and a moving shaft, as with connecting rod bushings.
 
Cynic2701 said:
CRK uses a bushing system with Chicago screws. The bushing fits perfectly over the female screw, and the washers go on either side.

Spyderco has a bushing that is a female screw on both sides, and two male pivot screws go in from both sides, with washers on both sides. (That's kind of dirty...get your mind out of the gutter :) )

Both do essentially the same thing, but I think that CRK's version, while being much more expensive to manufacture, has a few advantages. On the other hand, I'm quite impressed that Spyderco has managed to get a bushing system on knives around the $100 mark.

Oh, and I gotta say that the CF Caly 3 trumps both the Sage I and II.
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Thank you for elaborating on that. I never have actually owned a CRK so I'm a bit hazy on the guts of the knives. :)

Oh, and I agree with Deacon's assessment as well. :thumbup:
 
Well, I finally gave up on the Caly. Sold it today and I've got a Perrin PPT on its way to replace it. I kept slipping my finger forward of the super shallow choil and that blade is just too sharp for a slip like that.
 
EZ Bake said:
Well, I finally gave up on the Caly. Sold it today and I've got a Perrin PPT on its way to replace it. I kept slipping my finger forward of the super shallow choil and that blade is just too sharp for a slip like that.
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And the very small choil of the PPT doesn't give you any pause?
 
D1omedes said:
And the very small choil of the PPT doesn't give you any pause?
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It might end up disappointing, but it looks a lot deeper than that of the Calys (and deeper is what I like in a Choil). I don't like that its not jimped, and it is odd-shaped (not completely round), but I've got to try it out as the grips look very kershaw-like (and I find my Kershaws with that handle-shape to be very ergonomic), and this will be the first Spyderco I've owned with 3D G10.
 
EZ Bake said:
It might end up disappointing, but it looks a lot deeper than that of the Calys (and deeper is what I like in a Choil). I don't like that its not jimped, and it is odd-shaped (not completely round), but I've got to try it out as the grips look very kershaw-like (and I find my Kershaws with that handle-shape to be very ergonomic), and this will be the first Spyderco I've owned with 3D G10.
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I guess you're right. I don't own a PPT, and have no plans on acquiring one, but the choil turns me off. Still, you don't know until you have it hand. I look forward to your impressions. :thumbup:
 
the main concern I think is more of a liner lock vs. lock back, I love liner locks function myself they make the knife very smooth.. wished they made a Delica with a liner lock.. that would be sweet..
 
My caly 3 was very gritty at first. I took blade apart from handle and found that there were carbonfiber fibers between lock and liners. Getting rid of these made action very smooth. Oiling knife did help a bit (making fibers moving more easily?) but only getting rid of those helped in the long run.
 
Just got my Caly 3.5 today. It also did have those fibers stuck between lock and liners.

It also has weird look in the steel of the tip. Steel reflects light differently about 1 cm from the tip down making it look lighter (both sides). After that steel looks uniform in both reflection and in color. Anyone else have had this phenonom? It does not bother me that much for the look. Im just wondering if it can be result of somekind of error in heattreating the steel making it fragile or something...
 
TheLastDaze said:
the main concern I think is more of a liner lock vs. lock back, I love liner locks function myself they make the knife very smooth.. wished they made a Delica with a liner lock.. that would be sweet..
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Interesting thought.
I just got Endura and Delica Waves and realized that I wished they came with liner locks.

As much as I'm looking forward to the Chaparral, I'd prefer a liner lock version.

This represents a change in my thinking since I started collecting less than two years ago. In answer to a question back then by Sal, I'm pretty sure I said I'd prefer a lock back.

Back to the Caly3: Fine knife.

For me, the Sage I is a great knife -- in part because it's a liner lock.
 
I don't own a Sage yet but am looking forward to trying out the Sage 3 with the Blackie Collins Axis-type lock and G10 scales. I'm also looking forward to the Chaparral and Native 4 which has the steel liners, G10 scales and back lock.
 
My first Spyderco was a Sage 1, and as stated, it's a wonderful knife. I picked up a Caly 3.5 recently, and liked it a fair bit. I liked how low profile it was in pocket, and I liked the clip. They really packed a ton of blade into that little handle. But it was just a little too small for my hands, and I felt that the thinness was voided by pivot that sticks way out.

Both great knives, but I agree that the Sage 1 gets the nod.
 
Preference may depend on hand size. I have medium sized hands and like the ergonomics of the Caly 3. If anything, it is a bit too large for comfortable pocket carry, compared with smaller knives like the Rookie.
My Caly 3 came lubed and smooth in functioning from the shoppe. Lockup was tight, with no blade play. It is an excellent knife, but I usually pocket something slightly smaller.
 
I just bought a caly 3.5. Although I love the blade shape of this knife, the opening and closing of this knife really stinks compared to a sage 1. I love the carbon fiber feel on the sage 1 "WAY Better" then the smooth carbon fiber on the caly 3.5. I really don't like the locking mechanism on the caly. Blade shape is about the only thing I really like on this knife. This knife does come amazingly sharp but so does the sage. If they made a caly with the same carbon fiber handle and same liner lock as the sage 1, this knife would be a freaking home run IMHO. BTW, anyone else notice how hard it is to find a sage 1 lately? When you do find one they are like expensive compared to when you use to be able to buy them. I really hope spyderco is not going to discontinue this knife. I love the sage 1 way better then all the other sages.
 
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