Camillus/Becker History: The Other Helicopter Egress That Never Was

TriviaMonster said:
Did anyone notice the file location listed on the document posted for the Helicopter Egress Tool (the sawback version)? Haha.
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Nice catch TriviaMonster!

Sadly, no-one in the sales department noticed at the time. :D
 
Phil Gibbs said:
Nice catch TriviaMonster!

Sadly, no-one in the sales department noticed at the time. :D
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There's another tasty tidbit in this thread that no one else has caught, but I'm just going to leave it at that. :D
 
Guyon said:
There's another tasty tidbit in this thread that no one else has caught, but I'm just going to leave it at that. :D
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Is it that the material is listed as 0170-6c? I thought this was a little interesting as 0170-6 was the likely candidate for Cold Steel's Carbon V, or so I've read. And I believe Camillus also made Carbon V I believe for CS. I can't find reference to the actual "c" part though, only "b". Anyway, thanks for an interesting bit of trivia even a non-Beckerhead thought was pretty neat:)
 
jdk1 said:
Is it that the material is listed as 0170-6c? I thought this was a little interesting as 0170-6 was the likely candidate for Cold Steel's Carbon V, or so I've read. And I believe Camillus also made Carbon V I believe for CS. I can't find reference to the actual "c" part though, only "b". Anyway, thanks for an interesting bit of trivia even a non-Beckerhead thought was pretty neat:)
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Not what I meant, but here's the answer to your question...


Phil Gibbs said:
Carbon V definately came first. It was the brainchild of the Metal God, Dan Maragni, & was, in my opinion, what put Cold Steel on the map all those years ago.

When Cold Steel came to Camillus to make their carbon steel knives, they did not want to pay for the vast amount of steel that had to be purchased in order to have a custom steel made to their specifications.
Consequently Cold Steel agreed that Camillus could also use the steel (& pay them a royalty, I believe) but could not call it Carbon V.

I came up with the name 0170-6C, based on an almost close (but NOT) steel produced by Sharron Steel called 0170-6.

All this is historical trivia.

The real issue for those who understand is Heat Treatment!

The reason that the Camillus Beckers perform so well is that Dan Maragni set up a system of heat treatment at Camillus for the Cold Steel knives, & oversaw almost every batch of knives produced. What we learnt about heat treating Cold Steel seeped over to the Becker knives.
All that is now lost forever!

In my humble opinion, the values of the Camillus Beckers may not rise significantly in the collector market, but for those interested in a high performance user, get them while you can. Without Maragni's methods, I don't care what a future maker of Beckers uses, they will just be well designed carbon steel knives covered in powder coat!

I dearly hope I am wrong & the new maker will consider trying to improve their methods. Time will tell..............
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I may be confused and catch hell for this but what is the Becker Predator?
 
wroughndt said:
what is the Becker Predator?
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That's Ethan just before he pumps the shotgun.

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Was there a serrated version and a non-serrated version of the Helicopter Egress Tool? Also, that extended tang at the pommel looks strange as heck.
 
I was also going to guess the Becker Predator mentioned at the end of the letter. That was the other tidbit I found interesting.

Becker Predator: It should be a spear attachment for a bk9. With a rail to mount a laser/light unit for better aim. Also a button to press that makes the whole thing invisible. Yes. I am certain of this.
 
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Becker Predator?

Ethan with Dreadlocks?
You really are an ugly Mother........................:p:D
 
Cool thread guys, my high school history teacher really sucked. Didn't teach me any of this critical stuff. I love reading the history.
 
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