Camillus Whittler?

Discussion in 'Camillus Collector's Forum' started by coniferwoodsman, Mar 21, 2011.

  1. coniferwoodsman

    coniferwoodsman

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    Feb 24, 2010
    I have a Camillus Swell center that I think is a #72 Carpenters whittler. Late Tang stamp, delrin scales. Question is- Is it a whittler? I was taught that whittler must have three blades with the main blade falling between the other two. On this one the main blade is closer to the mark side than the other two. Thanks
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  2. Vit_213

    Vit_213

    722
    Feb 4, 2011
    He looks like Whittler #72, which swapped the small blades.
    This Whittler #72
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  3. Phil Gibbs

    Phil Gibbs Cutlery Student Platinum Member

    Nov 11, 1998
    Camillus called their knife a Whittler.

    Even though I worked there for 27 years & will always love the Camillus Brand, you are technically correct coniferwoodsman; it is not a true Whittler! :thumbup:
     
  4. coniferwoodsman

    coniferwoodsman

    504
    Feb 24, 2010
    Thanks very much, guys, that helps a lot. Great little knife.
     
  5. tsellati

    tsellati

    21
    Jan 21, 2006
    Here are three Camillus knives that I have and see considerable use as "whittlers" -

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    My favorite happens to the be three-blade which is just like the one in the first post of this thread except the end on which the two smaller blades are found is reversed.

    Tim
     
  6. orca8589

    orca8589

    Jan 27, 2007
    I believe they called it a whittler because of the handle shape. Not sure, though.

    ~Chris
     
  7. coniferwoodsman

    coniferwoodsman

    504
    Feb 24, 2010
    The handle shape is a Swell center- used on lots of knives, not just whittlers.
     
  8. edbeau

    edbeau

    Jan 20, 2006
    Very interesting subject and lots of nice knives. I know nothing about whittlers but enjoy this thread. Phil, why the different blade setup on the same model?
     
  9. Phil Gibbs

    Phil Gibbs Cutlery Student Platinum Member

    Nov 11, 1998
    The change happened long before my arrival, so please consider this as speculation.

    A true Whittler requires a "Tapered Half Center" between the two springs. Basically a center scale that has one end lopped of & is tapered to zero thickness toward the missing end; this allows a single thicker blade at one end riding on both springs, & 2 blades on individual springs seperated by a center at the other.

    These are a MASSIVE PAIN to make.

    It was a cheaper way to make a 3 blade knife!
     
  10. edbeau

    edbeau

    Jan 20, 2006
    Thanks, Phil.
     
  11. coniferwoodsman

    coniferwoodsman

    504
    Feb 24, 2010
    Thanks Phil, I really appreciate it.
     
  12. thawk

    thawk

    Oct 28, 2006
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    This non whittler Camillus 72 has a coping and pen blades, with the coping blade on the bottom. Thanks for the explanation Phil.

    Schrade (863) and Ulster (63) did this pattern on the same frame, probably for the same reason. The oldest Schrade with this pattern went the pain in the ass route in the 1930's, and offered it as a true whittler with both the clip and pen options.

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    From the 1936 E Supplement
     
  13. lrv

    lrv Basic Member Basic Member

    Sep 14, 2003
    Hal, Where are you finding these beauties. Jealous I am!
     
  14. edbeau

    edbeau

    Jan 20, 2006
    thawk, in the last picture, is the back side of the large blade flat or does it have a grind like the nail nick side? I have an old Imperial that is flat on the back side and the nail nick side looks a lot like that one.
     
  15. thawk

    thawk

    Oct 28, 2006
    The back side is also sabre ground on this one.

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    I have a 294 Schrade serpentine jack they ground flat on the back like that though, with a sabre ground mark side.
     
  16. edbeau

    edbeau

    Jan 20, 2006
    Thanks
     
  17. Vit_213

    Vit_213

    722
    Feb 4, 2011
    #72
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  18. Vit_213

    Vit_213

    722
    Feb 4, 2011
    Two other #72 knives
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  19. buckthorn

    buckthorn

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    Mar 20, 2006
    Is it possible that this model was also referred to as "Carpenter"
     

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