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Camp Knife Chop-off !!!!

Rat Finkenstein said:
You should know by now this forum is not big on censorship.
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I have had no way of knowing any such thing. All the personal attacks I've seen have been in WC where they belong. I've only ever seen one episode of a member slowing down the momentum of the thread by trying to make stuff personal and a moderator jumped on it appropriately. It's one of the reasons I hang around here. There aren't many tantrums and people tend not to spit the dummy if others don't believe what they believe or have digs at the things they like. Seems quite straight forward to me. If I gave a fvck about what others thought of my knives or the cars I drive I'd never leave the house. Ho Hum.
 
This thread is surprising to me. This is a great forum. I learn so much here. How all this argument over big knives came about after a little review on a few camp knives over on Busse Forum is beyond me. But then I haven't been over here that long.
 
gazaati said:
and then your signature says: "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction." Albert Einstein
:D:D:D:D:D:D
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And ... I can just claim the privileges of old age ... :)
 
baldtaco-II said:
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Moderator - surely the previous five posts need flushing?
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baldtaco-II said:
I have had no way of knowing any such thing. All the personal attacks I've seen have been in WC where they belong. I've only ever seen one episode of a member slowing down the momentum of the thread by trying to make stuff personal and a moderator jumped on it appropriately. It's one of the reasons I hang around here. There aren't many tantrums and people tend not to spit the dummy if others don't believe what they believe or have digs at the things they like. Seems quite straight forward to me. If I gave a fvck about what others thought of my knives or the cars I drive I'd never leave the house. Ho Hum.
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I didn't see any personal attacks. I have no idea what "spit the dummy" means.
 
Horn Dog said:
This thread is surprising to me. This is a great forum. I learn so much here. How all this argument over big knives came about after a little review on a few camp knives over on Busse Forum is beyond me. But then I haven't been over here that long.
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I really don't see any argument happening. Just some tender feelings stepped on.

Who knows why some people feel threatened when folks like knives of larger size? That was the topic my post addressed, as mentioned by pitdog in the original post. This forum often has that knife size snobbery/stupidity.

I have remarked before how it generally goes one way- the people who like big knives tend to love small knives too. The anti-big-knife brigade are the Jim Zumbos of the knife world.
 
Actually, the knife size "crap" flows both ways. For every person on here who is hurting someone's feelings claiming that a 2 pound knife is silly for cutting cordage and slicing meat, there are 2 or 3 people out in the world who laugh at me making 4 to 6 inch knives with 3/32 and 1/8 spines and convex edges. I'm often asked if I intend to make "real knives" which ends up meaning something over 1.5 pounds and 9 inches in blade length. FOR UTILITY USE!

This is as stupid, to me, as the japanese mythology that indicates that every sword made in every country throughout all of history, EXCEPT jjapanese blades, is utter crap.

The Einstein quote makes perfect sense to me, the ideal is to do the job best with the simplest and least amoount of material. I strive for this in my knifemaking. I make thicker blades where appropriate, sure. And I make thinner blades where appropriate.

Now, maybe there's a certain amount of misunderstanding here, when I think of big and thick and overdone, I'm thinking of things like that "scramasax" and the raft of weightlifintg tools with edges on them I see at Big-5. Something like Magnussen makes, makes sense to me.

Here- this is a chopper:

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It's also 1/8 inch thick and convex ground. And it chops a 2 inch green branch that's free hanging as well as or better than most of the hatchets around the house. (exceptions are the GB forester and the trailhawk I've put my preferred edge on, but it's a close call in those cases). It's only 8 ounces. This is a case where geometry matters, I guess. It sure as hell beats my SOG government.

Is it a big knife? I dunno. I'm beginning to suspect there are people in this thread who would attack it as being too little or something.


Oh, btw. I don't want to start a storm, but common social consensus in my experience indicates that calling someone an ass is a personal attack.
 
"It sure as hell beats my SOG government."

I bet it does. I liked the Government but there's no way it could ever cut like that was built to do.
 
koyote said:
Actually, the knife size "crap" flows both ways. For every person on here who is hurting someone's feelings claiming that a 2 pound knife is silly for cutting cordage and slicing meat, there are 2 or 3 people out in the world who laugh at me making 4 to 6 inch knives with 3/32 and 1/8 spines and convex edges. I'm often asked if I intend to make "real knives" which ends up meaning something over 1.5 pounds and 9 inches in blade length. FOR UTILITY USE!

This is as stupid, to me, as the japanese mythology that indicates that every sword made in every country throughout all of history, EXCEPT jjapanese blades, is utter crap.

The Einstein quote makes perfect sense to me, the ideal is to do the job best with the simplest and least amoount of material. I strive for this in my knifemaking. I make thicker blades where appropriate, sure. And I make thinner blades where appropriate.

Now, maybe there's a certain amount of misunderstanding here, when I think of big and thick and overdone, I'm thinking of things like that "scramasax" and the raft of weightlifintg tools with edges on them I see at Big-5. Something like Magnussen makes, makes sense to me.

Here- this is a chopper:

49-1.jpg


It's also 1/8 inch thick and convex ground. And it chops a 2 inch green branch that's free hanging as well as or better than most of the hatchets around the house. (exceptions are the GB forester and the trailhawk I've put my preferred edge on, but it's a close call in those cases). It's only 8 ounces. This is a case where geometry matters, I guess. It sure as hell beats my SOG government.

Is it a big knife? I dunno. I'm beginning to suspect there are people in this thread who would attack it as being too little or something.


Oh, btw. I don't want to start a storm, but common social consensus in my experience indicates that calling someone an ass is a personal attack.
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That is a nice looking knife. (specs?) You say you suspect that someone might say it is too little- I have yet to see that happen.

I have never seen anyone on the forums belittle you or anyone else for making thin knives, so you must be talking about people around where you live? Sounds like you are surrounded by nincompoops.

Btw, saying someone is "being an ass" is not a personal attack, it is an observation- and in the case of my post, I was asking if the guy was "trying to be an ass", since his posts are as clear as mud.

Also, the clowns who are always putting down big knives are not "hurting people's feelings", they are just being rude and spouting ignorance, which is detrimental to the forum. Those that see their antics and don't call them on it aren't much better.
 
specs are:

* OAL 12 3/8
* Blade 8 inches
* 1/8 L6 convex ground
* Differential temper
* Handle is flame treated osage orange with peened brass rivets

I'm currently testing another that's 10.5 inches, with a touch more depth. The photographed one is what i'd call a "medium" size, in ergonomics.

Oh yeah- I mostly get the stupid comments in person. The forum is in general better educated on knives. The winner of dumb questions, though, is when I tell someone I make knives and they say "do you make the blades?"
 
koyote said:
specs are:

* OAL 12 3/8
* Blade 8 inches
* 1/8 L6 convex ground
* Differential temper
* Handle is flame treated osage orange with peened brass rivets

I'm currently testing another that's 10.5 inches, with a touch more depth. The photographed one is what i'd call a "medium" size, in ergonomics.

Oh yeah- I mostly get the stupid comments in person. The forum is in general better educated on knives. The winner of dumb questions, though, is when I tell someone I make knives and they say "do you make the blades?"
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Nice, that sounds like a wicked slicer. I imagine it would be tough and springy being made of differentially tempered L6. :thumbup:

That is pretty funny, the "do you make the blades". :D
 
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