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camp knife vs survival knife vs hunting knife

Discussion in 'Wilderness & Survival Skills' started by Hoodoo, Aug 17, 2000.

  1. 22-rimfire

    22-rimfire Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 20, 2005
    I like your form of camping. Sounds really fun. The Stihl comment fits my general approach although I still often camp in state parks and cranking up a chain saw is a bit of a problem due to the general disturbance and appearances primarily. This is for the most part car camping and I often carry a cross cut saw for the big cutting tasks and frankly it is mostly for fun and having a nice pile of wood for my use and often for the next camper who finds my wood after I leave.

    I used a Case jack knife for many years for everything.... hunting, hiking, camping, and "survival". It always worked. It wasn't until I watched the Rambo movies that the concept of a survival knife ever came up. My survival knife was the one usually in my pocket and later both in my pocket and on my belt (fixed blade). Frankly I seldom use a fixed blade in the woods for anything but since about 1980-1985, I usually had one with me. The point is that for most of us, we aren't chopping trees down with our knives to build shelters, cutting our way out of an aircraft, needing to do any chopping with a knife what so ever, fighting off bears and mountain lions, or people with knives. But we do stuff because we like to do stuff in the woods camping, "surviving", hunting, cutting branches or trees, cutting a stake and so forth. It is mostly for the fun of it, but you DO NEED a knife if you want to efficiently cut anything. Yeah, I know... hatchets, axes etc.

    I think survival knives pretty much were developed from diving knives which need to be pointy for "attacking sharks", prying open an oyster, prying anything at depth, cleaning large fish, and general cutting. One of my early "survival knives" was in fact a Randall Model 15 (Air crewman I believe in stainless) which to this day find to be a really cool. After I got it, it was the knife I would head for the woods in a SHTF situation that in most cases will never happen for me. But I like the knife and that is what's important for me. There have been many large knives since, but the Randall still makes me wow at it when I handle it.

    A hunting knife is just a sharp knife to me that is fairly nimble in the hand for cutting flesh or hide. Big knives (like 7" blades) will work but are not nimble. A 5" blade is pretty much my limit for hunting and only would carry that large of a knife to straddle the multiple use category in the woods/field.

    Camp knives..... I think of the classic Hudson Bay design. But if you are back packing (carrying everything), I question whether or not I want to actually carry such a knife for such limited use. But if you are camping out of a boat (canoe or whatever) or from a jeep or ATV, by all means carry the thing. Take a chainsaw, large saw, axe, hatchet or machete too. But always have the folder in your pocket in case you find yourself separated from your "supplies" or other resources.
     
  2. cut it out

    cut it out Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 11, 2010
    Wow. Lot to read. For me at the cabin I use a 7-11" blade a lot. Limbing and splitting kindling and food prep. But I also use a small fixed blade or pocket knife too. Cutting rope and making cooking sticks for hot dogs and marshmallows and what not. For Edc I always have a pocket knife and a small stout belt knife or stout neck knife. Like Bk 14 or a izula or a Busse mean street or active duty. And I believe my shtf knife is what I have on me so at least I will have a small stout fixed blade and folder and no I can get by. Let's be honest if we new we were gonna be surviving we would always have are bigger belt knife on us ready to go. But realistically we can't. Hunting in the area I do 8000 acres plus it's very possible I might have to survive a day or 2 so my hunting knife must be able to handle shelter making and alike but again I always have my pocket knife to so I always have at least 2 knives and for me between the 2 I know I can "survive" until I get help or the storm passes. Fun thread but like a lot have said everyone will have differant views and skill levels.
     
  3. Mrbladedude

    Mrbladedude

    754
    Aug 2, 2010
    My camp knife splits wood and chops down limbs used to baton with. It's a 6 inch, .188 inches thick drop point blade.

    I would take this knife in a survival situation any day. So for me, they are essentially the same thing.
     
  4. h minus

    h minus

    88
    Dec 19, 2014
    If I'm strictly hunting I use a 4-5 inch drop point. A Buck Vanguard to be exact. For camping, canoeing, fishing, hiking/backpacking a Kabar USMC that is always paired with a Swiss army knife in my pocket is all I've used in the last 34 years. I don't baton firewood, so the USMC F/U design suffices for all my needs in my specific geographical location.
     
  5. DrPenguin

    DrPenguin

    482
    Mar 2, 2005
    Interesting thread. Shows how out of step I am. :)

    I guess I just don't need as much knife as a lot of folks. My camp, survival knife if whatever I have in my pocket. It's usually my jack knife. 3 1/2 inches and 1095 steel. Maybe a pen knife. Same size. Hunting? I have a Bark River Highlands and you know what? I love the knife but wish it was smaller. I liked the little Frontier First knife that Battle Horse used to make. I've gotten a lot of good out of the BR but it seems like quite a lot of length for the deer it field dresses each year...

    Maybe I need to shoot larger deer lol?

    Will
     
  6. Joezilla

    Joezilla Moderator Moderator

    Jul 22, 2005
    VERY cool photos and bridge to context
     
  7. ROCK6

    ROCK6 Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 8, 2004
    Talk about a necro-thread! It’s amazing that topics from 16 years ago are still easily debated with differing opinions.

    Perceptions reflect those differences and everybody conjures up scenarios or their own experiences to validate them. We have a whole market developed to design niche blades for every scenario under the market:

    EDC
    Bird & Trout
    Small game hunting knife
    Big game hunting knife
    Survival knife (swamps, jungles, mountains, deciduous, boreal, desert, canyon/high-desert, costal…)
    Bushcraft knife
    Woodcraft knife
    Combat knife
    Combat-Survival knife
    Camp knife
    Backpacking knife
    Primitive camping knife
    And on, and on, and on…

    I’m just as guilty as most. I do have a dedicated hunting knife (Dozier) that’s been my mainstay over the past decade or so. However, I’ve pretty much settled on the smaller fixed blade as my do-all knife. Whether it’s one of my custom Ed Martin knives or my modified Mora 511 (pseudo 510) that is permanently attached to my ULA Circuit pack for distance backpacking. These are my camp, survival, whatever-needed blades…design limitations acknowledged.

    As another Ron Hood follower from the past, I truly love the large knives even though they don’t get much use unless it’s a specific outing of practicing primitive skills. Even then, I still find the ubiquitous SAK (most often the old Rucksack or Farmer models) a go-to for outdoors activities and used for the majority of my camp-chores.

    Nice blade from the past…the more things change, the more they seem to stay the same! :D

    ROCK6
     

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