Camping question, what are you taking with you?

Realize that's a summer pack weight - shelter and insulation is less than five pounds total, and I am hiking places where water is available along the way, so I'm not carrying 6 days worth of water. That obviously wouldn't be practical in all situations. Switching to an ultralight alcohol stove and dehydrated meals has let me cut a lot of weight, too.

That pack weight sounds low to some people, but it's really not, compared to the ultra mega super duper lightweight stuff some people do. I still camp in lots of comfort - I'm taking a hammock and a decent sized tarp to keep me dry in the case of rain. If you carry an ultralightweight frameless pack, and a 3/4 foam sleeping pad, and use a tarptent or even your poncho doing double duty as a shelter, it's completely feasible to get base pack weight well under ten pounds. Now, I don't go to quite that extreme, but I kinda think it would be cool to do so.... except I hate sleeping on the ground.

MM, to your defense I can tell you my goal pack weight on the last 5 day trip I went on was 15 lbs. That is pack only, clothing is not included in that number, but I am sure it did not equal 5 lbs. I lived very comfy but was also in a place with water and brought a filter along. To me it is worth sacrificing some luxuries to have a lighter pack, however I am fine bringing my NMSFNO along for the ride. It gets a lot done around camp.:thumbup:
 
man i need to get a clue....my pack was way to heavy...but i was also forced to carry a stupid bear canister which weighed like 5 lbs on its own at Yosemite....this hammock and tarp seem like a good idea over a tent, pad and sleepin bag....but maybe next time i will trade the bear canister in for a 44 magnum and just shoot incoming bears!


MM if you dont mind sharing could you throw me a pack list for a summer hike, water available, for a 5-6 day hike....
 
I'm actually hoping to weigh and catalog a bunch of my gear tonight, in anticipation of an upcoming trip. If I get around to it, with the 50 million other things I've got going on tonight, I'll try to post a list.
 
Update:

I just put my name in for the NMSFNO so should have that in a week or so. I'm going to keep my eyes open on the Sar-8 and the new Bushwacker Mistress.

My ideal trip goes something like this: 2-2.5 days in, 2-3 days there relaxing/enjoying it, and then either straight out or 1 day out and 1 day rest then the rest out.
 
For shorter camping trips I generally take my comp. sjtac and either my game or swamp warden attached to my pack. I'd take my nmfbm but it's so huge. MustardMan, I'd be very interested in seeing your loadout.
 
SarSquatch is my goto camping blade. MM I want to see that load out as well. I am trying to pare down and I could use some ideas.
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I just came back from a Bear hunt, I had the Chuckette', a SAR 8, a SAR 4 and a Leaner Meaner Recurve...all had Black/Orange handles.

I strapped on my Freedom Arms .454 in Kenny Rowe leather and had my tricked out 700 Grizzly to go.

Didn't need a rifle with that stuff, could have taken him Daniel Boone style :)
 
MustardMan, I'd be very interested in seeing your loadout.

This isn't a comprehensive list, but should shed some light into typical gear weights for a summer trip. The two biggest and easiest places to cut weight on this list would be the hammock and insulation - I'm using a cadillac of hammocks, with double layers, bug netting, and easy to set up but heavy webbing suspension. I could cut nearly a pound by going with an ultralight hammock. I'm also using a 3/4 length underquilt that coult take me at least down to freezing at night, and a 40 degree synthetic bag, because I haven't gotten around to getting a summer weight down bag. Using a foam pad for under insulation, a lighter hammock, and a better bag, I could probably cut 1.5+ pounds.


My best advice for cutting your pack weight is to make an excel spreadsheet, and really weigh out every piece of gear you have. You'd be surprised what you can cut by choosing your gear carefully, or replacing older heavier items with newer ones. For example, I used to carry an REI ridgeline 65 backpack exclusively, and still carry it when weight isn't a concern. It weights almost 5 pounds. By comparison, a six moons designs Comet weighs 1.8 pounds.


So here's a typical pack content base weight. Biggest knife in this list is a SAK in the ditty bag :eek: Forgive the "yes" on each line - I'm using a simple excel formula to interactively calculate total base weight, depending on which items I select or deselect, and I'm too lazy to go through and delete them all. Weights are given in grams first, then ounces.

Speer 8x10 Tarp yes 440 15.52
Stake Bag yes 6 0.21
Stove kit (trangia burner, clikstand, 900ml evernew titanium pot) yes 479 16.90
Brunton Al Fuel Canister (full) yes 496 17.50
Orikaso Solo full dish set yes 204 7.20
Black Diamond Orbit Lantern yes 129 4.55
Marmot Pounder M Sleeping Bag yes 685 24.16
Warbonnet Blackbird Hammock with webbing suspension, carabiners, and bishop bag yes 1026 36.19
REI Lite Core 1.5 Sit Pad yes 123 4.34
Toiletries yes 118 4.16
Pack Towel yes 82 2.89
Black Diamond headlamp yes 82 2.89
Hangnout Underquilt - head end yes 343 12.10
Six moon Designs Comet pack yes 822 29.00
Ditty bag* yes 170 6.00
First Aid kit* yes 170 6.00

Total base weight: 5375 grams, 189.6 ounces.

That's 11.85 pounds base weight for essentials in the pack. That gives me another 13 pounds for food, water, clothing, and possibly a knife, and I'm still under 25 pounds total skin out weight, including what's on my body and not in the pack. And I'm far from hardcore on this stuff - I could cut a lot of weight if I was willing to sacrifice some comfort. Things like the BD orbit lamp are purely for convenience, and I could leave that at home. Also realize that there's some gear splitting here, so I'm actually carrying the cook kit for both my fiance and me, but she carries a small kitchen kit with a few extra methods of fire creation beyond the small firesteel in my ditty bag.


Hope that helps - I didn't get a chance to weigh out stuff like spare clothing bags or typical food weight, but you get the general idea. If you can find water along the way, that's the single biggest help. Luckily I live in the southeast where it's so humid I can actually absorb most of my water directly from the air through osmosis, so I don't have to carry 10 pounds of water everywhere I go :D
 
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