Can anyone verify this knife is authentic?

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Fumetsu said:
I've had a doozy of a week. Several refunds. Back and forths with sellers. In one case a complete lack of a refund and the order is missing. Mostly over now, I may have done business with someone who isn't very liked on these forums. I worry the blade I received may not be authentic. With all of this being said, I do not believe I will be using ebay in the future. I think I will keep knife transactions to bladeforums.

Here is a picture of the knife in question. Advertised and sold as a busse active duty, by one Dan, on ebay. I'm sure you all know dan. He told me to come verify that he's legit, after telling me he was banned, lol.

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Dan started out badly here, & ran afoul of a lotta folks quickly, myself included. I think the main reason back then was the lure of easy profits that overshadowed the real reason a lot of us spend time here & other discussion forums & groups, which is- the people behind the "toys", who meet & become friends, the community, camaraderie, shows, etc. I was a rather vocal part of why he took a ban here...
Since then, he's done some growing & changing, and on a personal note, he had an opportunity to recover a box of $10,000 in stolen Busse's & "Kin taken in a home burglary... MY knives. Although we never got the chance to face that POS in court, Dan, at personal financial risk, purchased my knives, took down details of the "seller", whom he'd found selling my shit on ePrey, & did a F2F meet & called Jerry Busse about them because there was an LE #27 in the box. Obviously I was called by Jerry next. Dan took all the knives, & the info (name, vehicle info, etc) to his local PD & filed a report. When I pulled a mugshot found on google, Dan verified that the pic was of the same guy... If it hadn't been an election year, of which the county DA was running for re-election, & quite the a**hole, who dropped charges without informing me, Dan was willing to testify in court to sink that thieving POS. Long & short, I have my knives back. He's why.

The knife you show here is legit/authentic. Dan may still be a lotta things to a lotta people, but I have NEVER heard of him selling a bogus Busse, nor counterfeit anything, just saying. And yes, I am one of the mods who does talk to him now over on FB in a few Busse & 'Kin groups.

This vvv is the a**hole who stole my knives & tried to sell them on eBay. His name is Todd McCraw, & he's definitely a scumbag...

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Jaxx said:
Dan started out badly here, & ran afoul of a lotta folks quickly, myself included. I think the main reason back then was the lure of easy profits that overshadowed the real reason a lot of us spend time here & other discussion forums & groups, which is- the people behind the "toys", who meet & become friends, the community, camaraderie, shows, etc. I was a rather vocal part of why he took a ban here...
Since then, he's done some growing & changing, and on a personal note, he had an opportunity to recover a box of $10,000 in stolen Busse's & "Kin taken in a home burglary... MY knives. Although we never got the chance to face that POS in court, Dan, at personal financial risk, purchased my knives, took down details of the "seller", whom he'd found selling my shit on ePrey, & did a F2F meet & called Jerry Busse about them because there was an LE #27 in the box. Obviously I was called by Jerry next. Dan took all the knives, & the info (name, vehicle info, etc) to his local PD & filed a report. When I pulled a mugshot found on google, Dan verified that the pic was of the same guy... If it hadn't been an election year, of which the county DA was running for re-election, & quite the a**hole, who dropped charges without informing me, Dan was willing to testify in court to sink that thieving POS. Long & short, I have my knives back. He's why.

The knife you show here is legit/authentic. Dan may still be a lotta things to a lotta people, but I have NEVER heard of him selling a bogus Busse, nor counterfeit anything, just saying. And yes, I am one of the mods who does talk to him now over on FB in a few Busse & 'Kin groups.

This vvv is the a**hole who stole my knives & tried to sell them on eBay. His name is Todd McCraw, & he's definitely a scumbag...

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Thank you for sharing this, Jaxx. I am of the firm belief people can change, but at the time was very concerned for the money I had just sent out. I probably wasn't thinking all that clearly. I did not mean to slander him, if I came off that way I apologize. These knives are some of the most expensive items I own, and so buying them is a bit of a nerve-wracking experience for me, and I'd rather be completely safe than sorry. With all of this being said, I'm pretty sure my concerns were relatively unfounded, and this thread can be deleted or fade off into oblivion. If he will allow me - I will continue to purchase Busse through him, as he appears to have quite the assortment. I am happy to hear/see a positive end to all of this.

Thanks again, guys. Cheers.
 
Jaxx said:
Dan started out badly here, & ran afoul of a lotta folks quickly, myself included. I think the main reason back then was the lure of easy profits that overshadowed the real reason a lot of us spend time here & other discussion forums & groups, which is- the people behind the "toys", who meet & become friends, the community, camaraderie, shows, etc. I was a rather vocal part of why he took a ban here...
Since then, he's done some growing & changing, and on a personal note, he had an opportunity to recover a box of $10,000 in stolen Busse's & "Kin taken in a home burglary... MY knives. Although we never got the chance to face that POS in court, Dan, at personal financial risk, purchased my knives, took down details of the "seller", whom he'd found selling my shit on ePrey, & did a F2F meet & called Jerry Busse about them because there was an LE #27 in the box. Obviously I was called by Jerry next. Dan took all the knives, & the info (name, vehicle info, etc) to his local PD & filed a report. When I pulled a mugshot found on google, Dan verified that the pic was of the same guy... If it hadn't been an election year, of which the county DA was running for re-election, & quite the a**hole, who dropped charges without informing me, Dan was willing to testify in court to sink that thieving POS. Long & short, I have my knives back. He's why.

The knife you show here is legit/authentic. Dan may still be a lotta things to a lotta people, but I have NEVER heard of him selling a bogus Busse, nor counterfeit anything, just saying. And yes, I am one of the mods who does talk to him now over on FB in a few Busse & 'Kin groups.

This vvv is the a**hole who stole my knives & tried to sell them on eBay. His name is Todd McCraw, & he's definitely a scumbag...

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Jaxx. WOW thanks for sharing this. A lot here have the same sediments as well when he was on this forum 10+ years back. A lot of folks disliked his "greedy" tactics in buying up large quantities of knives to flip. Not being involved in the actual hobby, enjoyment, and appreciation of these knives the majority of folks here come here to do was a sore spot.

Regardless, after reading your post I have profound respect what he did to help you out going above and beyond like that. That says a lot about his character regardless. Gald that POS that stole your knives faced repercussions. Thats the power of a community like this coming together, and what it all about. Good stuff.
 
Fumetsu said:
I have no intention of reselling my knives, they will go into my coffin with me, I hope. But i'm not able to purchase blades like this very often, just wanted to make sure everything was above-board. Thank you so much you guys. I really appreciate you. This hobby and forum has helped me through a really rough spot in my life, I am eternally grateful for it, and you guys. God bless. <3
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Buried...... huh ..... what all is going with ya?
 
Jaxx Jaxx , thanks for reminding us that Dan has done a good thing. Maybe redemption is possible.

I've never heard of him selling fakes. Just being aggressive and rapacious in his business dealing and asking very high prices. Cannot speak to delivery issues, haven't paid enough attention.
 
I myself bought traded and sold knives to Dan over the years and never had any issues. He usually has good and hard to get blades, maybe higher than some though. Heck I even traded a rifle to him for some nice older Busses one time.
 
Glad your knife arrived in good shape.
It doesn't always go that way with Dan.
 
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Jaxx said:
Dan started out badly here, & ran afoul of a lotta folks quickly, myself included. I think the main reason back then was the lure of easy profits that overshadowed the real reason a lot of us spend time here & other discussion forums & groups, which is- the people behind the "toys", who meet & become friends, the community, camaraderie, shows, etc. I was a rather vocal part of why he took a ban here...
Since then, he's done some growing & changing, and on a personal note, he had an opportunity to recover a box of $10,000 in stolen Busse's & "Kin taken in a home burglary... MY knives. Although we never got the chance to face that POS in court, Dan, at personal financial risk, purchased my knives, took down details of the "seller", whom he'd found selling my shit on ePrey, & did a F2F meet & called Jerry Busse about them because there was an LE #27 in the box. Obviously I was called by Jerry next. Dan took all the knives, & the info (name, vehicle info, etc) to his local PD & filed a report. When I pulled a mugshot found on google, Dan verified that the pic was of the same guy... If it hadn't been an election year, of which the county DA was running for re-election, & quite the a**hole, who dropped charges without informing me, Dan was willing to testify in court to sink that thieving POS. Long & short, I have my knives back. He's why.

The knife you show here is legit/authentic. Dan may still be a lotta things to a lotta people, but I have NEVER heard of him selling a bogus Busse, nor counterfeit anything, just saying. And yes, I am one of the mods who does talk to him now over on FB in a few Busse & 'Kin groups.

This vvv is the a**hole who stole my knives & tried to sell them on eBay. His name is Todd McCraw, & he's definitely a scumbag...

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While I am glad that there was a happy ending to your story, I can't help but notice that you seem to have missed the overall theme of story. You obviously judged Dan as so many here have over the years. It's a very common thing to do, we see someone who's doing something we don't like and/or approve of and perhaps we have felt very hurt directly by their actions, so the immediate instinct is judge them (which always makes you feel superior to them, whether you know it or not).

I do not believe we are EVER right to judge others because I believe that is God's place alone, as no human being ever truly understands everything about everyone. In this case, you've just outlined the fact that you know virtually nothing about Todd McCraw which makes you very unqualified to judge him and any judgements you make are just as likely to be wrong as the one you made about Dan. We are all sinners, I don't know of a single human being who has always done right because the temptation to do otherwise is often much too great. Goes back to the whole 'garden of eden' thing. Sometimes the things that seem like the worst thing that could ever happen turn out to be one of God's greatest miracles.

What I believe we SHOULD feel towards someone like Todd McCraw is..... COMPASSION. We don't understand the complex set of factors that have got him to where he is right now but for all we know he is about to turn around 360 and put himself on a path that allows him to SERVE humanity far more than any of us self serving knife addicts could ever hope to do. No soul is beyond saving and when it comes to people the past does not always predict the future. Now, does that mean I'm going to call him up and let him babysit my blades for while? Obviously not but the message is clear : The world is full of judges, just go look at your local courthouse. What the world needs more of is people who are commited to SERVE.

This is the reason I am offering up virtually my entire collection is because every time I think of my knives I can't help but feel that the only person that I, myself, am truly serving is MYSELF. I've come to realize that while I enjoy the product and thought/effort that goes into making them I am far more satisfied with being able to serve others sharpening needs for their knives than to just have a bunch of knives to use/handle for myself. This makes my collection merely excess baggage I must lug around through my journey of life, which I recently had the distinct displeasure of having to pack them all carefully for a move to a new living space. That said, letting go is never easy and I find myself dragging my feet on listing them all here for sale.. Learning to appreciate living with just the basics and choosing to live a life of true service is never easy in a world where we are judged by others according to how much 'stuff' we've lavished ourselves with.

I mean no disrespect, of course. Just merely trying to pass on a lesson which was very recently made abundantly clear to me in my own personal life as someone who has been judged very harshly by the one person in my life that I've been closest to for the last decade of my life That is a whole 'nother story and I'm still not certain I'm ready to share that one publicly here.
 
Fumetsu said:
He's got 3-4 more listed at a reasonable price. 280 I believe.
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The thing is the many people have grown accustomed to being able to buy factory direct from Jerry Busse and cut out the middle man and the subsequent markup which can drive up the price of a knife almost 50%. There's easily $100 markup there or better, which is why many have come to feel negative towards Dan even if they've never dealt with him. The fact is, he is a dealer, plain and simple. I don't think I've ever seen anybody come on Bladeforums and cry about how much (insert other larger knife dealer here) charges for their knives because they can get one 'like it' direct from the maker by themselves. The reason it costs more is that it costs money to even be in business in the first place. In Dan's case, he appears to have something like $1 million dollars tied up in inventory at any time. That isn't easy, I can assure you. That is what you are paying for, someone who will take on a surplus of goods to distribute to others over the course of time. Is that not worth something to you?

These knives would probably cost more than $280 if Jerry chose to sell their knives the way that Spyderco, ESEE or other larger makers preferred to do business.
 
If you buy something from Dan, tell him to package it well and tell him that you want pictures before it ships.
I have had him send me knives to make sheaths for customers, and he would send them with no packaging material, and the tips would get blunted, and they would be sticking out the box and be dangerous to postal workers. He also had some scratches on a knife that he was going to try to pass on the blame to me, but I took pictures and video of the box as I opened it.
Stay aware.
 
Father & Son Traditional Sharpening said:
While I am glad that there was a happy ending to your story, I can't help but notice that you seem to have missed the overall theme of story. You obviously judged Dan as so many here have over the years. It's a very common thing to do, we see someone who's doing something we don't like and/or approve of and perhaps we have felt very hurt directly by their actions, so the immediate instinct is judge them (which always makes you feel superior to them, whether you know it or not).

I do not believe we are EVER right to judge others because I believe that is God's place alone, as no human being ever truly understands everything about everyone. In this case, you've just outlined the fact that you know virtually nothing about Todd McCraw which makes you very unqualified to judge him and any judgements you make are just as likely to be wrong as the one you made about Dan. We are all sinners, I don't know of a single human being who has always done right because the temptation to do otherwise is often much too great. Goes back to the whole 'garden of eden' thing. Sometimes the things that seem like the worst thing that could ever happen turn out to be one of God's greatest miracles.

What I believe we SHOULD feel towards someone like Todd McCraw is..... COMPASSION. We don't understand the complex set of factors that have got him to where he is right now but for all we know he is about to turn around 360 and put himself on a path that allows him to SERVE humanity far more than any of us self serving knife addicts could ever hope to do. No soul is beyond saving and when it comes to people the past does not always predict the future. Now, does that mean I'm going to call him up and let him babysit my blades for while? Obviously not but the message is clear : The world is full of judges, just go look at your local courthouse. What the world needs more of is people who are commited to SERVE.

This is the reason I am offering up virtually my entire collection is because every time I think of my knives I can't help but feel that the only person that I, myself, am truly serving is MYSELF. I've come to realize that while I enjoy the product and thought/effort that goes into making them I am far more satisfied with being able to serve others sharpening needs for their knives than to just have a bunch of knives to use/handle for myself. This makes my collection merely excess baggage I must lug around through my journey of life, which I recently had the distinct displeasure of having to pack them all carefully for a move to a new living space. That said, letting go is never easy and I find myself dragging my feet on listing them all here for sale.. Learning to appreciate living with just the basics and choosing to live a life of true service is never easy in a world where we are judged by others according to how much 'stuff' we've lavished ourselves with.

I mean no disrespect, of course. Just merely trying to pass on a lesson which was very recently made abundantly clear to me in my own personal life as someone who has been judged very harshly by the one person in my life that I've been closest to for the last decade of my life That is a whole 'nother story and I'm still not certain I'm ready to share that one publicly here.
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Yeah!
I'm sure that by (possibly) going to church each Sunday makes those guys the pillars of their community!
 
Original question got answered and this is turning ugly, and not relevant to the OP's original question or Busse knives which this forum is about.

Want to say how great or bad or judgy people are ? there are other sections of Blade Forums for that.

Or take it to PM's

This one is locked, let it stay that way
 
Father & Son Traditional Sharpening said:
While I am glad that there was a happy ending to your story, I can't help but notice that you seem to have missed the overall theme of story. You obviously judged Dan as so many here have over the years. It's a very common thing to do, we see someone who's doing something we don't like and/or approve of and perhaps we have felt very hurt directly by their actions, so the immediate instinct is judge them (which always makes you feel superior to them, whether you know it or not).

I do not believe we are EVER right to judge others because I believe that is God's place alone, as no human being ever truly understands everything about everyone. In this case, you've just outlined the fact that you know virtually nothing about Todd McCraw which makes you very unqualified to judge him and any judgements you make are just as likely to be wrong as the one you made about Dan. We are all sinners, I don't know of a single human being who has always done right because the temptation to do otherwise is often much too great. Goes back to the whole 'garden of eden' thing. Sometimes the things that seem like the worst thing that could ever happen turn out to be one of God's greatest miracles.

What I believe we SHOULD feel towards someone like Todd McCraw is..... COMPASSION. We don't understand the complex set of factors that have got him to where he is right now but for all we know he is about to turn around 360 and put himself on a path that allows him to SERVE humanity far more than any of us self serving knife addicts could ever hope to do. No soul is beyond saving and when it comes to people the past does not always predict the future. Now, does that mean I'm going to call him up and let him babysit my blades for while? Obviously not but the message is clear : The world is full of judges, just go look at your local courthouse. What the world needs more of is people who are commited to SERVE.

This is the reason I am offering up virtually my entire collection is because every time I think of my knives I can't help but feel that the only person that I, myself, am truly serving is MYSELF. I've come to realize that while I enjoy the product and thought/effort that goes into making them I am far more satisfied with being able to serve others sharpening needs for their knives than to just have a bunch of knives to use/handle for myself. This makes my collection merely excess baggage I must lug around through my journey of life, which I recently had the distinct displeasure of having to pack them all carefully for a move to a new living space. That said, letting go is never easy and I find myself dragging my feet on listing them all here for sale.. Learning to appreciate living with just the basics and choosing to live a life of true service is never easy in a world where we are judged by others according to how much 'stuff' we've lavished ourselves with.

I mean no disrespect, of course. Just merely trying to pass on a lesson which was very recently made abundantly clear to me in my own personal life as someone who has been judged very harshly by the one person in my life that I've been closest to for the last decade of my life That is a whole 'nother story and I'm still not certain I'm ready to share that one publicly here.
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🤔 Actually... no. Never claimed to be perfect, under laws of any religion, surely I've sinned. So what...
On this, as I was in service to this website as a mod, I tried to call it as I saw it. There is quite a bit to the story, it is all still on this site. Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the history before turning on that holier than thou response. When he did bad, I called him out for it. When he did good, I told that story as well, blowback on me be damned, and I did receive some for speaking about his positive actions. There was no happy ending to this story- another assumption from you. There was only a barely palatable ending. I was not made whole. Who do you think paid back Dan? Certainly not the POS thief...
As for Todd- he's a scumbag thief to me- this is through experience. The thief broke into my house & robbed me. Period ...but I'm sure his mother still loves him. You feel compassion for him if you want. I do not.
So now that you've judged me, what's your fkn story?
 
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