Can I legally purchase a auto from Bladehq?

The "common carrier" section I had discussed before, and I am surprised that people read it thinking it could help them. It is merely there to clear the fact that UPS, Fedex and others can't be arrested for delivering the banned items because either they don't know what is in them or because they are delivering it to an authorized person. If they knew what as inside and agreed to delivery it to the unauthorized person, they would be breaking this law. Rich, while we are both knife lovers and I respect you desire to find a way to think you can break the law and sleep at night, I just can't explain anymore of the law to you. When I was in law enforcement, there were many drug dealers that were never arrested, and others that got life sentences under the old NYS law at that time for one arrest. I posted the law, and you know it is illegal. Do as you see fit as an adult, but remember the old saying told to many a tearful eyed person being put into the back of a police car..." If you can't do the time, then don't do the crime.".....
 
I am not breaking the law I am just pointing out all of the other dealers that sell switchblade are mailing them and the post office knows about it too and they are doing nothing about it. so explain that please. a mail person that delivers the mail told me about another dealer that was mailing switchblade in the mail and nothing was done about it and that is how I know.
 
Rich I suggest you do the following to get your answer: Contact the USPS Postal Inspector's office, the FBI and Customs ( ICE), let them know all you know and who told you what and ask why they are not doing their sworn duty....we will all be waiting for the results of what you find.....
 
why dont you do it?? I dont care what people are mailing threw the post office but you seam to care very much about it.
 
richard thurman said:
why dont you do it?? I dont care what people are mailing threw the post office but you seam to care very much about it.
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This is not a matter worth such an argument. The law is what it is, and people violating it left and right does not magically make it non-existent. Benchmade and Spyderco have both been fined in the past for breach of this law, which is probably why they are the most paranoid in their dealings with automatics.

Remember that the written law and how it plays out in practice are entirely different. Enforcement of the statue is very, very poor. This stems from a combination of being difficult to enforce and the agencies responsible for that enforcement having far better things to do, if most of them even give if a ---- about it at all. They're not stupid; they know it's a pointless law passed by morons in the 1950s. Every couple of years a big name seller will get cited, but it's often not worth the fed's time to go after individuals or small businesses. That also points out something very important that seems to be getting missed: Buying autos was never illegal under the federal statute. Selling is. Therefore the real risk of buying from an out-of-state company online isn't that you will be prosecuted, but rather that your order will be refused or you will be scammed out of your money. A lot of crooks bank on the fact that your are technically party to an illegal transaction and that you won't inform the authorities.
 
glistam said:
This is not a matter worth such an argument.
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Very true.

That also points out something very important that seems to be getting missed: Buying autos was never illegal under the federal statute. Selling is. Therefore the real risk of buying from an out-of-state company online isn't that you will be prosecuted, but rather that your order will be refused or you will be scammed out of your money. A lot of crooks bank on the fact that your are technically party to an illegal transaction and that you won't inform the authorities.
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I'd been wondering about that myself. It would seem logical that if an authority (be it the PO or other government agency) wanted to prosecute someone, they would pick the seller vs. the buyer, if for no other reason than going after the "bigger fish".
If possession is legal in the buyer's state, I'm not certain he has violated any law, federal or local.

richard thurman said:
I am not breaking the law I am just pointing out all of the other dealers that sell switchblade are mailing them and the post office knows about it too and they are doing nothing about it. so explain that please. a mail person that delivers the mail told me about another dealer that was mailing switchblade in the mail and nothing was done about it and that is how I know.
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Richard,
a couple of things that come to mind might explain it a bit:

1. In this post-9/11 world they have much more important things to do than wasting time and resources trying to enforce a law/laws that were enacted 40+ years ago for all the wrong reasons.

2. For several years now the leaning is increasingly pro-knife, thanks to the efforts of Knife Rights, New Hampshire Rep. Jennifer Coffey, and many many others. Choosing to attempt to enforce antiquated laws, that are likely to soon be repealed would do nothing but attract bad public/press reaction.
I doubt that even the New York DA has seen the benefits he hoped for in his ill advised decision to strictly enforce NY's knife laws.
 
The interstate commerce law is based on the seller being at fault, but if you ordered from them a case could be made that you conspired to violate the law ( a discussion I had with two US DAs over the years). The USPS states both the sender and reciever are guilty if it is sent via mail or if a USPS money order is used as payment. Very true these laws are rarely enforced but they are there and can be at any time. The OP ask if it was legal and it is not. It is not. Rich the only reason I suggested you ask those agencies is your continued list of people who break the law. Why are they not arrested? I truly don't know as what they are doing is illegal. The question has been answered, and we are all adults, so do as you please in terms of following the law....
 
tom19176 said:
The interstate commerce law is based on the seller being at fault, but if you ordered from them a case could be made that you conspired to violate the law ( a discussion I had with two US DAs over the years). The USPS states both the sender and reciever are guilty if it is sent via mail or if a USPS money order is used as payment. Very true these laws are rarely enforced but they are there and can be at any time.
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Thanks Tom.
That was pretty much what I thought.

The question has been answered, and we are all adults, so do as you please in terms of following the law....
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Yes, it seems to have been adequately and pretty accurately covered.
Not that it hasn't before, but it certainly not the least important question that gets repeated.
Hopefully it will help some folks make an informed decision.
 
Maybe I am missing something but as I read this and have always understood, don't send it USPS. Send it UPS of Fed Ex. ?
 
Not using USPS aviods breaking one law, but not the interstate commerce law.......
 
then if what you are saying is true everyone that has a switchblade has broken the law and they need to all be put in jail for it or am I missing something??
 
richard thurman said:
then if what you are saying is true everyone that has a switchblade has broken the law and they need to all be put in jail for it or am I missing something??
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No, and you're missing something. Everyone who has sold a switchblade over state lines has broken the law and would have been fined if caught. They just weren't caught. That is all.
 
Correct. I'm a civilian living in California. If I go to Arizona, I can LEGALLY purchase a switchblade there. I can then bring it back to California when I return home. But I cannot have it on my person when I enter the State of California. To do so would be a felony. (I'm talking about switchblades with blade lengths of 2" or more.) And I cannot have a switchblade shipped to me from out of State. To do so would mean that I'm conspiring to commit a felony which, of course, is a felony in its own right.
 
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bld522 said:
Correct. I'm a civilian living in California. If I go to Arizona, I can LEGALLY purchase a switchblade there. I can then bring it back to California when I return home. But I cannot have it on my person when I enter the State of California. To do so would be a felony. (I'm talking about switchblades with blade lengths of 2" or more.) And I cannot have a switchblade shipped to me from out of State. To do so would mean that I'm conspiring to commit a felony which, of course, is a felony in its own right.
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I know of a bunch of people that are shipping to california. how are they getting away with it??
 
bld522 said:
Correct. I'm a civilian living in California. If I go to Arizona, I can LEGALLY purchase a switchblade there. I can then bring it back to California when I return home. But I cannot have it on my person when I enter the State of California. To do so would be a felony. (I'm talking about switchblades with blade lengths of 2" or more.) And I cannot have a switchblade shipped to me from out of State. To do so would mean that I'm conspiring to commit a felony which, of course, is a felony in its own right.
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I know of a bunch of people that are shipping to california. how are they getting away with it??
 
Alann45 said:
Other dealers take a very strict policy. For example, Knife Center and New Graham are very strict, requiring you provide proof of your LEO, military, etc. credentials to purchase.
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The KC folks' office is within about ten miles (as the crow flies) from the FBI Headquarters. Given the density of Federal Law Enforcement agencies in the area, I understand their need for caution! :cool:

TedP
 
bld522 said:
Correct. I'm a civilian living in California. If I go to Arizona, I can LEGALLY purchase a switchblade there. I can then bring it back to California when I return home. But I cannot have it on my person when I enter the State of California. To do so would be a felony. (I'm talking about switchblades with blade lengths of 2" or more.) And I cannot have a switchblade shipped to me from out of State. To do so would mean that I'm conspiring to commit a felony which, of course, is a felony in its own right.
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Right except for the "conspiring to commit a felony" part. Lawyers and DA's have discussed such matters, but to date no buyer has ever been prosecuted under that law, only sellers. It's reasonable to bring the possibility up, but ultimately it is just speculation.
 
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richard thurman said:
I know of a bunch of people that are shipping to california. how are they getting away with it??
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Because the feds don't care enough to go after small time sellers. Simple as that. btw don't confuse statements of legal fact with my personal views of how it ought to be. If I had my way all knife-specific legislation would be repealed. The laws on assault, robbery, rape, malicious wounding and murder are all you need.
 
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