Can I Mail order an OTF auto?

It's been said that the following site is a pretty good place to shop for Automatic Knives... 1SKS...:)
 
Karda said:
It can take time to gather plenty of evidence for a rock solid case. One that the offending party cannot possibly legally squirm out of.
Meanwhile, business as usual until subpoena's are served and assets seized.
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how long does it take??they have been shipping them across the state lines you years. I think at lease 10 I belive.
 
It can take as long as it takes to gather enough evidence. From a few months to a few years. I don't believe there is any time limit to investigation.
 
As stated by Karda: "Stupid or not, outdated or not, the law is the law. "

I totally agree with this line of thought. Please realize that just because you don't agree with a law, it does not allow you to break it without fear of punishment. If you break the law, you are a criminal wheter or not you are ever so charged. People don't like to think that way, but a criminal is merely some one who breaks the law and wheter or not they are caught. arrested and convicted will only determine wheter or not they have a criminal record of their crime.
The thing to do is change the law (like NH did), or find a legal method of ownership or purchase if possible. If you choose to simiply violate the law, then please consider yourself a ciminal as you would be one.
 
"how long does it take??they have been shipping them across the state lines you years. I think at lease 10 I belive."

They have been selling them via ads since the 1970s that I know of. There have been several of arrests for it. How long does it take? As long as they want. The evidence is all wrapped nicely for them. A ad telling you they will send them, and that they will send them via USPS with tracking. There are few so simple a case to prove. Ad, tracking info, recived item sent to unauthorized person.......Gee who could not clearly figure that one out?
 
http://www.constitution.org/uslaw/16amjur2nd.htm

16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177 late 2d, Sec 256:

"The general misconception is that any statute passed by legislators bearing the appearance of law constitutes the law of the land. The U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and any statute, to be valid, must be In agreement. It is impossible for both the Constitution and a law violating it to be valid; one must prevail. This is succinctly stated as follows:

The General rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the time of it's enactment and not merely from the date of the decision so branding it. An unconstitutional law, in legal contemplation, is as inoperative as if it had never been passed. Such a statute leaves the question that it purports to settle just as it would be had the statute not been enacted.

Since an unconstitutional law is void, the general principles follow that it imposes no duties, confers no rights, creates no office, bestows no power or authority on anyone, affords no protection, and justifies no acts performed under it.....

A void act cannot be legally consistent with a valid one. An unconstitutional law cannot operate to supersede any existing valid law. Indeed, insofar as a statute runs counter to the fundamental law of the lend, it is superseded thereby.

No one Is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it."
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sovereign said:
http://www.constitution.org/uslaw/16amjur2nd.htm
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That and a can of nutmeg still won't get you a pumpkin pie while your (( watch your freakin' language )) in jail, if you choose that as a defense.

If you choose to send or receive an automatic knife via the US mail, crossing state lines, you are taking a chance. If you (or I, for that matter) end up convicted, you (or I) only have you (or me) to blame. Well, I'm still blaming whippersnapper, but I have doubts about that getting me any pumpkin pie either.

all da best,
rats...
 
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I predict it will fall to Godwin's Rule shortly. Then it can be locked and we can move on :rolleyes:
 
The General rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the time of it's enactment and not merely from the date of the decision so branding it.
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The Locker Room Law Book. :p

In your own words, if unconstitutionality dates from the time of its enactment and not merely from the date of the decision so branding it, then it still is not unconstitutional until it is so branded. If the Supreme Court, for example, declares a law unconstitutional, it was still constitutional to convict you by it until that Court decision.
 
Yum Kippers:barf: I went ahead and bought it locally as I ended up paying $20 more for my HK Tumult than buying it online. No matter, its nice to be able to look it over before parting with the $$$$. Cant inspect online. Also, I didnt want any one from these forums to take note of me for the horrible Federal crime of buying a switchblade across state line.:rolleyes: Switchblades are fun novelty items, not very practical in most cases. If a creep wanted to carve up someone on the streets a good fixed blade would be far more stronger and reliable than any kind of mechanical blade.
 
Glad to see you bought it legally from a local place where you could inspect the knife, and if there is an issue with it working you can return it for repairs. To me well worth the $20 extra as compared to commiting a crime to get it. Silly law? Yes for sure! Still a law with serious fines and jail time? Yes.
 
tom19176 said:
Glad to see you bought it legally from a local place where you could inspect the knife, and if there is an issue with it working you can return it for repairs. To me well worth the $20 extra as compared to commiting a crime to get it. Silly law? Yes for sure! Still a law with serious fines and jail time? Yes.
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but didnt they just commited a crime?? how did they get it across state lines?? they law has to apply to every one not just the single person.
 
richard thurman said:
But didn't they just commit a crime?? How did they get it across state lines?? The law has to apply to everyone not just the single person.
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Oregon contains some of the most prominent knife makers and major cutlery factories in the US. So It was very likely made in that state too, which would make it all totally legal.
 
glistam said:
Oregon contains some of the most prominent knife makers and major cutlery factories in the US. So It was very likely made in that state too, which would make it all totally legal.
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yes if he did buy a auto that was made in that state then you are right. now what knife maker did he buy??
 
I have been ordering them for years shipped from Cal. to my home state where they are legal. When I lived in KS same thing, and they usually come USPS. LOL I guess its one of those things. I have a FFL C&R and I have gotten pistols to my door by USPS, I don't think its exactly legal but maybe it shows the gov is not watching everything.

I just received in the USPS a Lightning and AKC OTF last week. Have a Schrade on order SMEDY spring inserted auto coming in next week. I bet it comes USPS.
 
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