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Can somebody define "Troll" for me
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Stolen from Usenet.
As used on the Internet:
What is a troll?
In Usenet usage, a "troll" is not a grumpy monster that lives beneath a bridge accosting passers-by, but rather a provocative posting to a newsgroup intended to produce a large volume of frivolous responses.
The content of a "troll" posting generally falls into several areas. It may consist of an apparently foolish contradiction of common knowledge, a deliberately offensive insult to the readers of a newsgroup, or a broad request for trivial follow-up postings. You are probably reading a troll if you see a brief message posted with lines similar in character to the following:
"PCs are much better than Macintoshes."
"Macintoshes are much better than PCs."
"People from Faroffistan are all lazy bums."
"Why did the Germans bomb Pearl Harbor?"
"AIDS is God's punishment for [insert group]."
"What's your favorite song? Everyone post!"
"Blue eyes are a sign of superior intelligence."
The result of such postings is frequently a flood of angry responses. In some cases, the follow-up messages posted in response to a troll can constitute a large fraction of a newsgroup's contents for as long as several weeks. These messages are transmitted around the world to thousands of computers, wasting network resources and costing money for people who pay to receive Usenet news. Troll threads also frustrate people who are trying to carry on substantive discussions in a newsgroup.
People post such messages to get attention, to disrupt newsgroups, and to make trouble. The best response to a troll is NO response; if you post a follow-up message, you are contributing to the resulting clamor on the newsgroup and most likely delighting the troller. Before posting a response, consider the following questions:
Have responses already been posted by others?
Will my post add any information that others likely are not already aware of?
Is the issue resolvable, or will discussion turn into name-calling?
Should I send e-mail instead of posting?
Will I later regret the contents of what I am posting?
Please deal with trolls constructively, and do not participate in trolling. You will help make Usenet a much more enjoyable forum for discussion.
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Mike Turber
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As used on the Internet:
What is a troll?
In Usenet usage, a "troll" is not a grumpy monster that lives beneath a bridge accosting passers-by, but rather a provocative posting to a newsgroup intended to produce a large volume of frivolous responses.
The content of a "troll" posting generally falls into several areas. It may consist of an apparently foolish contradiction of common knowledge, a deliberately offensive insult to the readers of a newsgroup, or a broad request for trivial follow-up postings. You are probably reading a troll if you see a brief message posted with lines similar in character to the following:
"PCs are much better than Macintoshes."
"Macintoshes are much better than PCs."
"People from Faroffistan are all lazy bums."
"Why did the Germans bomb Pearl Harbor?"
"AIDS is God's punishment for [insert group]."
"What's your favorite song? Everyone post!"
"Blue eyes are a sign of superior intelligence."
The result of such postings is frequently a flood of angry responses. In some cases, the follow-up messages posted in response to a troll can constitute a large fraction of a newsgroup's contents for as long as several weeks. These messages are transmitted around the world to thousands of computers, wasting network resources and costing money for people who pay to receive Usenet news. Troll threads also frustrate people who are trying to carry on substantive discussions in a newsgroup.
People post such messages to get attention, to disrupt newsgroups, and to make trouble. The best response to a troll is NO response; if you post a follow-up message, you are contributing to the resulting clamor on the newsgroup and most likely delighting the troller. Before posting a response, consider the following questions:
Have responses already been posted by others?
Will my post add any information that others likely are not already aware of?
Is the issue resolvable, or will discussion turn into name-calling?
Should I send e-mail instead of posting?
Will I later regret the contents of what I am posting?
Please deal with trolls constructively, and do not participate in trolling. You will help make Usenet a much more enjoyable forum for discussion.
------------------
Best Regards,
Mike Turber
BladeForums Site Owner and Administrator
Do it! Do it right! Do it right NOW!
www.wowinc.com
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In case you don't fish, the term describes a fishing technique. When you "troll" you cruise around in a slow moving boat dragging a baited line. You get the fish to follow you around.
I don't fish so a different definition comes to my mind. Years ago at Caltech a "troll" (aka random troll) was an antisocial student who studied all the time and ran up the class grading curves. They were apt to correct their professors (even the Nobel laureates). Their study habits were known as "snaking".
I don't fish so a different definition comes to my mind. Years ago at Caltech a "troll" (aka random troll) was an antisocial student who studied all the time and ran up the class grading curves. They were apt to correct their professors (even the Nobel laureates). Their study habits were known as "snaking".
But just to throw some fishing trivia into this studies showed that salmon are known to follow a trolled lure for miles without striking.- Joined
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I thought a troll was a nifty little Norwegian fixed blade.
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Radar, what are you calling us?
Good example.
Actually, the "fishing" allegory is apt. A trouble maker uses accusations, insults, inflammatory language or specuous comments as bait to get someone to "hit" on their bait with an angry, contradictory, or indignant response. The troublemaker then continues to add insults and comments to "reel" their catch, those who respond to them, closer to the boat, which in this case is often simply their overinflated sense of self worth, ego, or to satisfy their overdeveloped sense of self worth. Gee, that almost sounds like flame bait in itself. Well, it's not like I'm saying they're overcompensating for having a small tadger.
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Don LeHue
The pen is mightier than the sword...outside of arm's reach. Modify radius accordingly for rifle.
[This message has been edited by DonL (edited 06 October 1999).]
Actually, the "fishing" allegory is apt. A trouble maker uses accusations, insults, inflammatory language or specuous comments as bait to get someone to "hit" on their bait with an angry, contradictory, or indignant response. The troublemaker then continues to add insults and comments to "reel" their catch, those who respond to them, closer to the boat, which in this case is often simply their overinflated sense of self worth, ego, or to satisfy their overdeveloped sense of self worth. Gee, that almost sounds like flame bait in itself. Well, it's not like I'm saying they're overcompensating for having a small tadger.
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Don LeHue
The pen is mightier than the sword...outside of arm's reach. Modify radius accordingly for rifle.
[This message has been edited by DonL (edited 06 October 1999).]