Can us knife folk be sheeple too?

[rdelliott]

Mind translating that? I have no idea what you are actually saying.

I have no idea what a git is and I dno't know what mublety-peg is either. Also, what's a Dork Ops Ultimate Eviscerator?

I give you the Dork Ops website: http://www.darkopsknives.com/cgistore/store.cgi?page=/new/catalog.html&setup=1&cart_id

Basically, my point was that I have no issue with everyday people using serious knives in a rational manner .

 

[Grampa]

The irony is that folks who shouldn't be trusted with a few thousand pounds of steel are deathly scared of people with a few ounces of the same.

Well said, both of you!:thumbup:

 

[T.K.C.]

I like when I see someone else besides ME pull out and use a knife, it makes me feel comfortable. I also look to see if people have a clip showing. I too LOVE talking knives with random folks too.

 

[DaTrueDave]

If I'm out-&-about, and need to use my knife, I don't just whip it out on the spot! I'll sometimes walk down a side-street that has no people

That doesn't sound like a good idea... Instead of using it in plain view, you'll duck down a sidestreet? That's exactly what street criminals would do, too!

 

[Franciscomv]

I have no problems with people using knives around me. In fact I like to be in an environment where people carry and use knives.

However, I HATE those idiots who misshandle their knives in public and give the rest of us a bad name. At work I've made a very big effort to make people realize how nice it is to have a knife or multitool handy, last week some idiot walked in playing ninja with his POS switchblade and destroyed months of work.

 

[gbaker]

I am not nervous around people using knives or having knives. If they were waving it wildly and/or advancing toward me in a threatening manner, then I would become concerned. But it would be their recklessness or hostility that was the problem, not the mere presence of a knife. The irrational fear of an inanimate object is what defines a “sheeple”.

Sheeple is used on many forums and has a different definitions (for instance references to sheeple who believe the mainstream media).

 

[Keith Montgomery]

I don't care what kind of a knife someone pulls out to do a chore with, but if they are morons that are just waving them around then I will avoid them and report them to the police. You never know what someone like that might do. Do I consider myself to be a sheeple? No!

 

[eojk]

I only get apprehensive if it is a certain type of person, such as a "gang-banger" wannabe or posturing drunk. Otherwise I look to see if what they're using is a POS. If it isn't, I'll say "Hey, that's nice," and perhaps strike up a conversation.

 

[Jay_Wyatt]

I like to consider myself as being aware of people and whats happening around me. I worked in a prison for over 5 years and I have had the oppertunity to see what the blade from a Bic razor or a shank can do in the hands of someone wanting to harm their fellow man. Sometimes I feel sorry for some fool who thinks he's being cool and in the end has cut himself. Some people should not be allowed to have sharp objects. It makes me more mad than anything when I see someone acting foolish with a knife.
(Please forgive my spelling)

 

[GarageBoy]

NYC hasn't been a problem for me at all. I've peeled apples on the corners of SoHo before, opened food packages and blisterpacks on a crowded subway station with no problems

 

[Monocrom]

That doesn't sound like a good idea... Instead of using it in plain view, you'll duck down a sidestreet? That's exactly what street criminals would do, too!

Right! I'm going to pull out my Centofante III in plain view, in NYC, in front of a bunch of sheeple? Are you serious?

As for "ducking down a side-street," I didn't mean sneak down there, at night, like I stole something! I meant casually walk down a side-street that is MUCH less crowded, during day-light hours.

My post was about discretion; not about sneaking around like a goblin.

 

[Monocrom]

NYC hasn't been a problem for me at all. I've peeled apples on the corners of SoHo before, opened food packages and blisterpacks on a crowded subway station with no problems

I used to work in SoHo. There's probably more Sheeple there than in any other part of NYC..... You must be the most non-threatening-looking person in the world.

On the other hand, I look like the psycho from the film "Full Metal Jacket.":grumpy:

 

[Rat Finkenstein]

Right! I'm going to pull out my Centofante III in plain view, in NYC, in front of a bunch of sheeple? Are you serious?

Is it legal? then why not?

Why are you afraid to engage in legal activies in public view?

Sounds like you are as much a "sheeple" as those you are afraid to offend.

"Coward" is a term that seems fitting. . .

Word History: A coward is one who “turns tail.” The word comes from Old French couart, coart, “coward,” and is related to Italian codardo, “coward.” Couart is formed from coe, a northern French dialectal variant of cue, “tail” (from Latin cda), to which the derogatory suffix -ard was added. This suffix appears in bastard, laggard, and sluggard, to name a few. A coward may also be one with his tail between his legs. In heraldry a lion couard, “cowardly lion,” was depicted with his tail between his legs. So a coward may be one with his tail hidden between his legs

 

[Monocrom]

Is it legal? then why not?

Why are you afraid to engage in legal activies in public view?

Sounds like you are as much a "sheeple" as those you are afraid to offend.

"Coward" is a term that seems fitting. . .

Oh please, is that the best you can do?..... If so, that's pathetic.:yawn:
I'm a regular at another forum that is filled with users who are experts when it comes to insulting people over the internet. It's also filled with intelligent people who can discuss ANY topic without resulting to your brand of childish, name-calling. Don't believe me? Ask the Topic-starter. (What's your real age, 12)? Am I supposed to be impressed with the fact that you copied from a dictionary, rather than using your brain to make a point? Thanks for demonstrating to everyone your limited intellect.

Your childish attempt to flame me, mixed with your use of a dictionary (in order to prove your point) lends weight to my belief that you are about 12 years old. Your flame was so tiny, that my marshmellow is still cold.

Honestly, I'm sorry that no one ever bothered to teach you the meaning of the word "Discretion." But hey, obviously you've got a dictionary; look it up!

I developed a thick-skin a long time ago. I'm used to dealing with forum users who lack the intelligence to discuss a topic, and resort to pathetic attempts at flaming..... But the truth is that NYC law does require that, among other things, a knife be carried concealed when a person is out & about, in public. So, if I take out my folder "in public view," I have technically violated the law! If another New Yorker sees me with my knife out, freaks out, runs to a cop and tells him "There's some guy over there waving a knife around," Gee; looks like I'm going to jail and my knife gets confiscated. Why? Well, I wasn't too discreet.

It's called "Discretion." And if YOU think I'm a coward for being discreet, well; I honestly don't give a damn what some childish, random stranger over an internet forum thinks of me.

 

[DGG]

All knife owners are "sheeples" unless they get out and VOTE for those politicians who will respect them and their right to make their own responsible decisions for themselves and their families.

If they are looking for someone to dictate to them and run all the aspects of their lives, and guarantee them some sort of minimialist existence, they are "sheeples", IMHO. The only way to avoid this problem is to VOTE for those that respect your right to free responsible law-abiding choices in your life.

 

[harpers ferry]

American Heritage Dictionary:
discreet:
1) having or showing judicious reserve in one's speech or behavior; respectful of propriety.
2) lacking ostentation or pretension; unobtrusive;modest.
[ Middle English from Old French French discret , from Medieval Latin discreitus. " showing good judgement"

in other words, using a little common sense, which is a far cry from cowardice.

 

[puukkoman]

I've gotten some mixed signals about NYC and its knife culture... Can anyone clarify it for me?
I've read some places that it's totally unacceptable to carry a knife, and other times people have said that it's ok to carry a 5" folder. Is there a length restriction? Are there other restrictions as to the type of knife one is allowed to possess in public?
Based purely on legality, what's the deal?
Thanks...

In any case, back to the topic at hand, I generally feel just fine when I see someone use a knife in public. The key here, however, is "use." This term implies proper use of a knife as a tool, not improper use as a toy or a weapon. If I see someone acting irresponsibly with their knife, my first instinct is to get the hell out of there. I carry a knife responsibly, as a tool, and I don't want any guilt-by-association to fall on me.
That's not to say that I'll simply take off to avoid responsibility if I see a jerk brandishing a knife toward another individual. There are plenty of courses of action available, depending on the situation (none of which involve the use of my knife), the most logical being to summon the authorities.

Alex.

 

[Rat Finkenstein]

. . .blah blah blah

But the truth is that NYC law does require that, among other things, a knife be carried concealed when a person is out & about, in public. So, if I take out my folder "in public view," I have technically violated the law! If another New Yorker sees me with my knife out, freaks out, runs to a cop and tells him "There's some guy over there waving a knife around," Gee; looks like I'm going to jail and my knife gets confiscated. Why? Well, I wasn't too discreet.

So what you are saying, is you discreetly slink away to an area where you can pull out your knife and "wave it around"? Sounds pretty childish to me.

Sounds like you don't even understand the laws. If you have a reason to use your knife, then you aren't "waving it around" you are using it as a utility knife. Being afraid of illegal arrest for legal use of a knife is just plain dumb.

As far as flames go, I wasn't flaming you. You attempted to flame me with that lame diatribe about being 12 years old, marshmallows, etc- but that was a poor argument.

I call it like I see it. You are afraid to exercise your legal right to responsibly use a utility knife, so IMO, you are displaying cowardice.

It's called "Discretion." And if YOU think I'm a coward for being discreet, well; I honestly don't give a damn what some childish, random stranger over an internet forum thinks of me.

You seem to care quite a bit what I have to say, at least enough to compose a lengthy rant trying to simultaneously defend yourself and belittle me. (You failed on both counts.)

And you care enough about what some random idiot from the streets of NYC thinks to significantly alter your actions.

the truth is that NYC law does require that, among other things, a knife be carried concealed when a person is out & about, in public. So, if I take out my folder "in public view," I have technically violated the law

Wrong!
Concealed carry- Yes
Concealed use- No
It is not illegal to use a knife in public.

 

[Monocrom]

To: Rat Finkenstein -
LOL ...... My post was made to set the record straight. Whenever someone resorts to childish name-calling, instead of being able to argue the merits of their point of view, I call them on it. Basically, act like an idiot and you get treated like one. You don't pay my bills, you're not a loved-one, you're not someone I care about, and you're probably not even someone who really makes a difference in the real world. (On the other hand, I'm studying to be an O.R. Technician. I'll be helping doctors to save lives in the operating room; while you'll be insulting random strangers over the internet, just to satisfy your obviously fragile, little ego). You're a random stranger on an internet forum who obviously never bothered to learn the meaning of the word discretion. (BTW, the user named harpers ferry provided it for you, above. Thankfully there are intelligent folks on this thread). Tell me again why I should care about your opinion, or why you think I do?

I will give credit where it's due, though. Your last post was good for a laugh. I'll keep an eye out for your posts, whenever I'm feeling a bit bored.:yawn:
Honestly, I've got no ill-will towards you. If you honestly believe the B.S. that you're advocating, walk near a cop on the street, take out your knife in front of him (after all, it's perfectly legal to do so where you live), cut something with it, put it away, and walk away. How far do you think you'll get before the cop stops you and questions you about your knife?.... But hey, no problem. Just tell him you had every legal right to do what you did. I'm sure the officer will COMPLETELY understand; once you point out the law to him.

Once again, thanks for the laugh.
But, I think I've made my point. So, if you ever actually post something intelligent; that's the next time I'll bother responding to one of your posts. But don't feel bad, I'm sure you'll find plenty of random strangers to insult. I'm sure they'll play with you, and satisfy your fragile, little ego.

 

[HoB]

I think the big distinction is that I may be afraid of the person brandishing/waveing around the knife. Not of the knife itself....but then again, maybe the people that get afraid when I pull out a knife are actually afraid of me, too, and not the knife .