Can you help me find my perfect flashlight please?

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I've been researching this for a while but then it occurred to me that this forum would likely be a goldmine of knowledge.

I want a small, blindingly bright light that I can easily carry in my pocket, maybe on my keychain that can use batteries easily found in drugstores like CVS (ie not rechargeable). I also would like it to have some heft to it. I want it to be very tough - both water and shock resistant. Finally I'd like it to have a switch, not a twist. So to recap:

Pocket sized (less than 3.5 inches)
Blinding - over 150 lumens
uses non-rechargeable batteries
Heavy, can take a beating/water resistant
A 'clicky' button

Does this 'Grail' light exist? I seriously thank you in advance for your input!
 
Most I have seen are twist. The perfect one for me is the Maratac AA in polished stainless from countycomm.com
I run a lithium AA in mine. Countycomm are out of stock right now but they say they will have more the first of Feb.
 
I EDC the Fenix LD10 for almost several years and it never let me down. I just own tow flashlights, an LD10 and an LD20 (for home use). No use for more flashlights as I almost found my personal optimum. :D
 
Lights are like knives. You will continue to search for the grail..then you know the rest.
I'm sure you have a lot of options, depends on what you want to spend. Personally, I'm enjoying the clicky with the ring adjustment, like the Sunwayman V11r or the Nitecore SRT3 they can blast around 500 lum on the RCR123 Batteries and fit your size.
I'm fairly new to the light world, but if you dig around the forums, you will see a whole new world of information.
Cheers
 
Eagletac D25a or the d25c the "a" uses AA batteries and is 200lumen the "c" uses cr123 batteries and is 450 lumens. Both great quality light for about $50
Here is a pic of my D25a titanium clicky with a full size griptilian
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Fenix E-11 or E-12. single AA, push button (the E11 is two mode, switched by turning the head, so its a set and forget) the e-12 is three mode with button push cycle. They are both a little below your 150 lumen mark.
 
I second the Eagletac. I have the AA model and its has been the best edc light compared to others I have tried.
 
I always carry a small flashlight with me and some type of flashlight .Last night I actually needed both .They had been doing work at the end of my long driveway but it was blocked by a sapling.I thought I'd have just pull it aside but it was still connected to the roots and it was apparently a hawthorn with nasty thorns. Out came my Feniz E-12 ,and my Surviveknives 3.5 . The thorns required two hands so the light was held in my mouth.I quickly sliced away and off to home . Yes I could have walked home up the driveway but i did it faster ! Nice when the emargency stuff is needed !
 
I'd throw another vote toward the EagleTac.

Another suggestion would be the FourSevens Preon. With one AAA it pushes out a lot of light.
 
Another vote for the EagleTac here as its my AA edc light but I didn't want super bright I wanted higher CRI so I went with the Nichia 219 B11 CRI92 Neutral White LED. This LED only has 132 lumens instead of the 200 from the XM-L2 but the color is MUCH better.
 
Sounds like you're describing a HDS systems EDC Flashlight. Its too big for keychain carry but does everything else you ask for. Runs on 1 x CR123 battery which is available over the counter a lot of places but can be expensive.

I have one and its a great light, but a bit heavy for me personally I favor 2 x AAA penlights for EDC.
 
Fenix makes good, budget lights that run on AA and AAA batteries.

SureFire makes expensive lights that run on expensive CR123, but are the industry standard by which literally every other flashlight is measured against as a benchmark.

If your use is potentially lifesaving then you might not want to compromise. If you have an office job then a Fenix should be fine. Amazon has them for cheap.
 
Really great information, I truly appreciate it gentlemen. I am looking at both the HDS (looks spectacular but is $300) and the eagletac. Thanks again.
 
Really great information, I truly appreciate it gentlemen. I am looking at both the HDS (looks spectacular but is $300) and the eagletac. Thanks again.

You're going from a $50 light to a $300 one, there's a lot inbetween.

I learned quickly to skip the cheaply made, heavily hyped imported lights. They work fine, while they work, but then they don't work, usually when you are in the dark and in need of a light. Surefire lights really are worth the money. They're the Sebenzas of flashlights (like another poster said, the benchmark for the industry). The expensive price is justified by the quality of the product, and the incredible warranty.

Imported lights advertised lumens are most often way off. Surefire lumens are conservatively low. I've seen "850 lumen" Chinese lights that weren't nearly as bright as my "500 lumen" Surefire P2X. I'm not sure what exactly the lights were putting out, but the Surefire was brighter.

The more complicated you get, the more likely your light is to break. Adjustment rings, 3 or more modes, etc. all make the light more likely to fail when needed. If you want reliability, find a light with 2 useful modes and stick with it. If you have to go cheap/inexpensive, go simple. Streamlight makes their Microstream lights that are very tiny (single AAA) and quite bright with a very long life using lithium batteries. They are extremely thin lights that also have a pocket clip and carry easily. The Microstream also has a single clicky button so there is little to break or go wrong. Oh yeah, as far as batteries, if you get an AA or AAA light don't put cheap alkaline batteries in it, they often leak/explode/ruin lights.

I highly recommend Surefire's E1B. It's a smaller pocket sized light that runs on a single CR123A battery. It has two modes, a very bright 200 lumen high mode and a just bright enough 5 lumen low mode. I use low mode 99% of the time, and the battery lasts for something like 35 hours but I change it out every few weeks anyways. The "Tactical" version has a push button pressure switch (doesn't "click" on) that I prefer because you can also twist it on or off in addition to the pressure switch. The most breakable part of a quality flashlight is the push button, and if the pressure switch ceases functioning you can still use the light by twisting it on or off. It also allows you to instantly switch between low and high mode, because if you push lightly it activates low mode, push harder for high mode. I believe that the Click version turns on the high mode first, which sucks when you don't need a blinding blast of light because you want to preserve your night vision. They can be found for $140ish, I've found mine to be worth every penny.

After owning, and using, dozens of lights from Klarus, Nitecore, Surefire, Streamlight, etc. the only ones I trust are the simple Streamlights and the high quality Surefires. I've been left in the dark in a dangerous situation before, there's little reason to risk it using substandard lights.
 
You're going from a $50 light to a $300 one, there's a lot inbetween.

I learned quickly to skip the cheaply made, heavily hyped imported lights. They work fine, while they work, but then they don't work, usually when you are in the dark and in need of a light. Surefire lights really are worth the money. They're the Sebenzas of flashlights (like another poster said, the benchmark for the industry). The expensive price is justified by the quality of the product, and the incredible warranty.

Imported lights advertised lumens are most often way off. Surefire lumens are conservatively low. I've seen "850 lumen" Chinese lights that weren't nearly as bright as my "500 lumen" Surefire P2X. I'm not sure what exactly the lights were putting out, but the Surefire was brighter.

The more complicated you get, the more likely your light is to break. Adjustment rings, 3 or more modes, etc. all make the light more likely to fail when needed. If you want reliability, find a light with 2 useful modes and stick with it. If you have to go cheap/inexpensive, go simple. Streamlight makes their Microstream lights that are very tiny (single AAA) and quite bright with a very long life using lithium batteries. They are extremely thin lights that also have a pocket clip and carry easily. The Microstream also has a single clicky button so there is little to break or go wrong. Oh yeah, as far as batteries, if you get an AA or AAA light don't put cheap alkaline batteries in it, they often leak/explode/ruin lights.

I highly recommend Surefire's E1B. It's a smaller pocket sized light that runs on a single CR123A battery. It has two modes, a very bright 200 lumen high mode and a just bright enough 5 lumen low mode. I use low mode 99% of the time, and the battery lasts for something like 35 hours but I change it out every few weeks anyways. The "Tactical" version has a push button pressure switch (doesn't "click" on) that I prefer because you can also twist it on or off in addition to the pressure switch. The most breakable part of a quality flashlight is the push button, and if the pressure switch ceases functioning you can still use the light by twisting it on or off. It also allows you to instantly switch between low and high mode, because if you push lightly it activates low mode, push harder for high mode. I believe that the Click version turns on the high mode first, which sucks when you don't need a blinding blast of light because you want to preserve your night vision. They can be found for $140ish, I've found mine to be worth every penny.

After owning, and using, dozens of lights from Klarus, Nitecore, Surefire, Streamlight, etc. the only ones I trust are the simple Streamlights and the high quality Surefires. I've been left in the dark in a dangerous situation before, there's little reason to risk it using substandard lights.


Excellent advice, I thank you for taking the time. Now I'm totally rethinking this. I always preach 'you get what you pay for'...Thanks again.
 
I've been researching this for a while but then it occurred to me that this forum would likely be a goldmine of knowledge.

I want a small, blindingly bright light that I can easily carry in my pocket, maybe on my keychain that can use batteries easily found in drugstores like CVS (ie not rechargeable). I also would like it to have some heft to it. I want it to be very tough - both water and shock resistant. Finally I'd like it to have a switch, not a twist. So to recap:

Pocket sized (less than 3.5 inches)
Blinding - over 150 lumens
uses non-rechargeable batteries
Heavy, can take a beating/water resistant
A 'clicky' button

Does this 'Grail' light exist? I seriously thank you in advance for your input!

"I've been researching this for a while but then it occurred to me that this forum would likely be a goldmine of knowledge." So True SmedlyButler.

OK before you dismiss this I'm pretty sure it's the light for you.

1. 3.5 inches check
2. Blinding (over 150 lumens) Well maybe not lumens but definitely bright. It has two led lights and "blinding" cool soooo check
3. Non recharging batteries no problem sooooo check
4. Heavy, can take a beating/water resistant. Hey never seen a pig that isn't water resistant and can't take a beating sooooo check
5. clicky button You got it. Left side of pig, click on click off.
I'm thinking this is the light you want. Just do a search for them on the internet and your good to go.

 
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The Thrunite T10s seems like a good choice. It has a clicky, 200 lumens, can take a AA, it's 3.68in long (close enough), and it's made of steel. They also make a titanium model!
 
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