Candor regarding the materials used and their sources in all categories of knife making.

Greggy said:
So a manufacturer who eschews "cheapskatism" will sell very few knives because customers are cheapskates.
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I'm not sure I would call everything less than handmade bespoke screws 'cheapskatism', homie
 
madcap_magician said:
Yeah? What color is the boathouse at Hereford, then? Eh?

Bluntly I think this thread is fairly absurd. For common parts like screws, many makers will get their materials from a retailer, who got it from a distributor. The maker is not going to waste time trying to figure out exactly where the raw materials for each component comes from.

It's one thing to claim that your knife is made in the USA down to the screws when you know that some part of it wasn't. It's another to just make a knife and say the knife is made in the USA because you made or bought all the materials from USA suppliers. As long as someone is acting in good faith, then I don't have a problem.
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Danke42 said:
Rainbow stripes with a polka dot roof.
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According to this picture over a urinal I may have visited…

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Yes, I know it’s a lighthouse, which may be different from a boathouse, but I held onto this photo just in case I was ever challenged after joining a ragtag crew of mercenaries.
 
I would like transparency across the board. I think every company should be candid about where they get their materials. Where the supplier got their materials cannot reasonably be the responsibility of the buyer but whoever buys the materials does know where he/she gets it from (the supplier who sold it to them.) The supplier should also know where he/she gets their stuff and all the way up the chain. This allows easier tracing of the final origin.

Easier tracing is good for everyone. It makes fraudulent claims harder to stand, allows the public to call out tricksters, protects those who make the effort to market and sell genuine locally made products from losing sales to people who market lower priced imported products as locally made when in fact they are not.

It basically allows people to actually choose what they want to buy rather than be forced to buy products they don't want because of a monopoly being held on the market by people who deal in imported goods.

You cannot deny that current trend is to deliberately make it difficulty to trace the source of manufactured goods unless revealing the source offers a marketing opportunity but when it doesn't it's usually because it is something they are not too proud of.

I think the number of so called diehards (I prefer to call them ethical buyers) are not as low as a lot of people would be led to think otherwise they would not be putting borderline misleading labels (giving the impression of US made with a picture of a flag for example) on their products to lure people who really would not want to buy their products into buying them.

Made in China American flags is one that really makes me laugh. I have nothing against foreigners at all and they make products that I love and buy which are a lot of times better than locally made products. They sell on their own merit without any marketing deception.

Making marketing deception easy makes it hard on all reputable sellers foreign and abroad. It often provides an overall impression that everyone is dishonest that unfairly rubs off on people who are not.

Nobody should run into a dead end at any point when they try to find out what their stuff is and where it came from.
 
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greater said:
I would like transparency across the board. I think every company should be candid about where they get their materials. Where the supplier got their materials cannot reasonably be the responsibility of the buyer but whoever buys the materials does know where he/she gets it from (the supplier who sold it to them.) The supplier should also know where he/she gets their stuff and all the way up the chain. This allows easier tracing of the final origin.

Easier tracing is good for everyone. It makes fraudulent claims harder to stand, allows the public to call out tricksters, protects those who make the effort to market and sell genuine locally made products from losing sales to people who market lower priced imported products as locally made when in fact they are not.

It basically allows people to actually choose what they want to buy rather than be forced to buy products they don't want because of a monopoly being held on the market by people who deal in imported goods.

You cannot deny that current trend is to deliberately make it difficulty to trace the source of manufactured goods unless revealing the source offers a marketing opportunity but when it doesn't it's usually because it is something they are not too proud of.

I think the number of so called diehards (I prefer to call them ethical buyers) are not as low as a lot of people would be led to think otherwise they would not be putting borderline misleading labels (giving the impression of US made with a picture of a flag for example) on their products to lure people who really would not want to buy their products into buying them.

Nobody should run into a dead end at any point when they try to find out what their stuff is and where it came from.
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We heard you the first time.

Did you read ANY of the comments in this thread???? :rolleyes:
 
A little wordy but I though it answered a lot of your answers.

Just for you in a nutshell. Nobody should run into a dead end at any point when they try to find out what their stuff is and where it came from.
 
greater said:
Nobody should run into a dead end at any point when they try to find out what their stuff is and where it came from.
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Says you.

And a lot of us gave you reasons why what you want is completely impractical, and will never happen.
 
shane45-1911 said:
Says you.

And a lot of us gave you reasons why what you want is completely impractical, and will never happen.
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I am not saying a perfect absolute solution is going to happen but surely we can do better. What is going on now is the pits.
 
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