cant figure out non knife people!

Ain't it the truth! This morning I went next door to say hi to my new neighbor. He and his wife were breaking down moving boxes to get rid of. Naturally, I pulled out my BF Native and began cutting the tape open to which he responded, "Look Honey, Chris has a hunting knife!" Amazing. Oh well, guess I have a mission, huh?
 
A week or so ago I delivered a knife to a lady, (purchased by her for her husband).
When I asked her if she wanted to open the blades to inspect what she had purchased, she said "Oh no, I'm afraid of knives. All throuout this exchange she was hacking up vegies with a chef's knife that she had me sharpen a few days earlier!!!

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Most of the time I get no negative response when I pull out my small Victorinox Executive, Minichamp, or Classic penknives to do small jobs. However, one lady felt threatened seeing me cutting paper with the tiny folding scissors on my Classic (closed length 2 and 1/4 inches).
I will not lend out any of my knives to someone who either does not know enough about or does not respect my knives. I have a small Uncle Henry Stockman (2 and 3/4" closed) that I would consider letting someone borrow briefly. Because once someone asked to see my Delica then walked over to a big wooden post saying he wanted to see how far into the post he could slice with it. I took it from him before he could try it.
Jim
 
Yesterday, one of my co-workers (let's call him Fred, since that's his name) was trying to get his SAK out of his pocket, but it was caught in a bunch of loose threads. After he finally he works the knife free, Fred carefully opens up the blade on his SAK and sets about sawing (unsuccessfully) at the loose threads.

So, I offered my knife to him, suggesting that it might cut a little better than his. Next thing I see, Fred is sawing away again -- still unsuccessfully, because he was using the swedge. All I could say was, "Fred, wouldn't you like to try the sharpened side of the blade?"

At least he didn't cut himself.

Dave

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Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of More Knives

 
very scary. I think people have a tendancy to fear what they don't understand. This coupled with the left-wing media and hollywood's portrayal of knives and guns makes for alot of fear of knives and guns. I hope the knife culture doesn't have to face what the gun culture is facing right now.

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Dennis Bible
Knoxville, Tennessee


 
While working late one night, one of the guys goes out for coffee & was nice enough to pick up a box of crackers and a chunk of cheddar. After watching him try to cut the cheese with a plastic knife I offered him my knife...with a look approaching horror he said "Is it clean?"

'Nuff said?
 
I saw one thing that just made me cringe - One the other end of the spectrum. One of the major makers sent a rep out to the local sporting goods superstore with an electric sharpener of some sort. I let the guy dull up my Schrade (no way was he getting his hands on the good stuff).

Afterwards we were talking about the sharpener, rep was explaining something using his empty hands to demonstrate holding a blade....

One of the boys at the table thought he needed a blade to better describe things, whip, snap, one motion stainless steel (spydie police?) blade first, closed grip about 6-inches from the reps face (rep was sitting of course).

This guy just came accross as demanding that we all ooh and ahh over his skill and knife. I recognize he's not representative of most of us, but......we all suffer from that sort of display...


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Boise, Idaho


 
A colleague recently asked to see my Bladeforums Native. I handed it to him, and he opened it up to examine it. Meanwhile a woman joined us. The fellow started joking with her by holding the (very sharp) Native centimeters from her stomach. The woman did not appear concerned, and I spoke to them slowly and calmly until I was able to retrieve the knife.

The gentleman in question has a Ph.D. in an esoteric safety-related field. Nevertheless, next time he wants to borrow a knife I'll do the job for him or possibly lend him a Micra.
 
Yes, there are those people who, when you show them a new knife, think it's amusing to make mock-stabbing mostions at you or somebody else. Not funny. I wonder if they point guns at people the same way. Aaaarrrggghhh!!!


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www.chaicutlery.com
AKTI Member # SA00001
 
Actually, I came quite close to death one day by that means.
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My buddy was passing around his new CS SRK, and a guy got a hold of it. Unfortunately, he happened to be one of those guys who's a bit too hyper.. He puts on the war face, grabs my throat and holds the knife a millimetre away from my jugular, all in one swift, careless motion.

Hahaha.

I could've killed him. That knife was SO #$%@&! sharp.. Just another example of sheer ignorance.

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Shawn
"Earth has its boundaries, but human stupidity is limitless."

 
Why is it that non knife people think that you, the guy that just gave them the knife are going to be scared of them pionting it at you? I had a coworker do this when I first started where I am now. After I helped him up from the floor and had replaced my knife in my pocket, I noticed that some how, during my breif display of "what you should not do to me" his wrist had gone and gotten sprained
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. That was the last time anyone I work with tried to play that game with me(I appologized, heck I even drove the poor guy to the doctor.). I see it all the time, and I still don't get it. Why would you do something that DANGEROUS? I think Mr. Mattis had it right, would they do the same thing with a gun? I think not (idiots not withstanding
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(NOTE: strong feelings expressed ahead...yeah, like that never happens here
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i've been trying to break my friends in gently, so i can use my wonderful tools without constant jibes and stares. the following happened this last week:

day one: i sit down to lunch with best galfriend. she knows about my knives but has never seen one of them. my lunch is bagel, unsplit, with cream cheese in separate container. my friend is chatting away, and i'm getting hungry...so i VEEERRRRYYYYYYY SLOOOOOWWWLY reach into the pocket of my pretty flowered dress, pull out the borrowed BF Native i'm carrying lately (it's keeping me company until my own arrives in the mail), and carefully, slowly, open it one-handed (other hand is balancing bagel so intent will be clear)...zoom in for reaction shot: girlfriend stops in mid-word, mouth gaping. i show her the knife, say "see, it's a little portable serrated bread knife!" and proceed to slice the bagel and spread the cream cheese, spilling neither crumbs nor blood. girlfriend places hand on chest, sputtering various fearful phrases until i put my trusty blade "Scourge-of-Baked-Goods" away.

day next: i repeat the above scenario, verbally warning same girlfriend before the Scourge appeareth. she doesn't say anything this time, just watches. around the time the Scourge is laying into the cream cheese, a professor (i work for a university) steps into the room. reaction shot: learned mouth drops open, learned eyes lock on poor little Scourge who is being enslaved in the name of hunger. i smile, nod towards Scourge, and say, "i was a girl scout, so i like carrying my own bread knife around with me." Learned one says, "well, you'd better be careful, you could really hurt someone with that thing!" i reply, with a twinkle: "you trust me to run the email server, surely you can trust me with a bread knife" ...

a week later: same girlfriend buys me a coffee and a bagel, and on the way out of the shop, runs back in for a moment. she emerges with a small plastic knife, and hands it to me, saying: "here! this is so you don't have to use something so sharp this time."

now i'm the one with mouth hanging open and eyes staring.

the surprising thing is that these women are two of the most assertive and aggressive-in-a-really-good-way females i know. they are both tops in their fields, having won their places amidst all sorts of chauvinism and mysogyny. and yet, when it comes to a sharp knife, their lizard brains kick in, and they forget all that stuff about logic and confidence and self-reliance, and they act like frightened little airheads who are too weak and untrustworthy to handle a sharp blade--let alone even stand NEAR a sharp blade--safely.

*whew* gosh. can't believe i just typed that. wow...um. well. i guess i had to get that off my chest. (uhoh, more rant ahead
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you guys have no IDEA how frustrating it is to be a female who's not interested in being "the little woman". now, i don't want to be a man, and i don't believe women are "the same" as men, either. (and i LOVE men, trust me on this!) but i do see that there is a real capacity for strength, competence, trustworthiness, whatever you want to call it, in women, just as there is in men, and i hate it when women ignore their own competence, when they forget to trust themselves. it is so frustrating when otherwise very strong women react to what amounts to competence-with-a-tool by freezing in place like a salamander in hopes that the nasty BeToothed Predator will forget they are there...

oh...ok. ok. ok. drop the chalupa, silverwing. :} (for the record: i know men can be silly sheeples, too!)

sorry. being a woman in a male-dominated field, being a woman who likes knives, some days i just want to stand up to my full 5-foot-almost-4-inch height and yell: i'm extremely competent and can cut my own bagel with my own extremely useful tool without the knife leaping out of my hands and murdering everyone in sight, so just DEAL WITH IT!!

oh. there's that darn chalupa again... well, ok, just hand me your sifu, mr. mattis, and i'll cut it into slices so everyone can have a bite
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(didn't mean for my fiftieth post to be such a memorable one. be easy on me, i had a hard day...)

silverwing
 
I've had many of the same type of experiences that have shared here. There are a few that always bring a ironic smile to my face. A few years ago I was working in a store in a mall. Since we wore dress shirts a lot I started carrying one of those Executive Edge knives that has a clip like a pen, and is about the same size. Every once in a while a customer would go to write a check and say "Can I borrow your pen?" and point to the shiny stainless clip in my shirt pocket. I would always reach into the pen cup and hand them one of the cheap ball points that we kept by the register. A couple of times the customer would say something like "What about that pen?" and point to my pocket again. I guess they thought that I didn't want to let them borrow "my" pen. So I would say "That's not a pen." "Well what is it then?" would come the sarcastic answer. The look on their face when I opened that ~3.5-4" blade was just priceless. "OH" was the usual reply.

More recently I was working in a University Library in the periodicals section. One of my jobs was processing incoming newspapers. A lot of the international ones come wrapped in plastic. Rather than look for the impossibly dull scissors to open them I'd reach for my trusty knife. One day I pulled out my Calypso Jr. to open the packages and opened it one handed in front of my boss (a person I have known for about 13 years BTW). She audibly gasped and asked me where that "huge" knife came from! I just smiled at her and said "Oh I have much bigger ones at home."
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Luckily she knew me well enough to leave it at that. You just never know.

I was pleased as punch when my young (about 12 at the time) niece brought me a POS made in Pakistan little folder to sharpen. I sharpened it but my conscience wouldn't let me give it back to her. Instead I gave her a small Buck folder that I had laying around. Both her brothers are Eagle Scouts, so maybe it has rubbed off on her.

Silverwing,
You are too cool! I wish that you would come to Cincinnati and hang out with my fiancee for a while. I think you all would have a lot in common and maybe you could teach her about knives. She's made some progress (Ladybug and Victorinox Classic in the purse), but is slow to come around. Oh well, I guess I have the rest of my life, huh?
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Paul Davidson

Them:"What's that clipped to your pocket, a beeper?"
Me:"Uuh....yeah, something like that."


 
Paul:

LOL!! and thanks for the kind invitation. should i ever find myself out your way, i look forward to meeting you and your fiancee. it would certainly be an interesting and enjoyable conversation, sounds like.

suggestion? choose a few of your favourite posts from all of the wisdom folks share here on BF, and print them out to share with your fiancee...once she sees how much thought goes into our little hobby, she might start thinking a few sharp thoughts of her own, ya never know
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Silverwing:
Believe me, it's not only the ladies who can react like jellyfish when a knife appears. One of my friends once pulled out what I think was a Boker (not a one-hander) lockback and another friend (a big ex-football player) exclaimed, "Whoa! What are you gonna do with that, kill a moose on the way to work??" He was using it to cut some fruit.

I've offered a person one of my knives to borrow because she was having trouble opening a package. She looked at me with contempt as if I had just asked her to kill herself with it. She decided to take the civilized way and rip away at the package for a while with her teeth.

As mentioned in another thread, this fear or ignorance of knives seems primal in most people, and they assume if you carry any knife, you mean to harm somebody (them) with it.
Jim
 
For years I tried to calmly and logically reason with people about the knives I carry, and it did no good. Now I go to the other extreme. Someone I work with asks if I've got some thing to open "this" with, I whip out the biggest knife I've got on me. As they are still staring in shock I laugh and put it away, most of the time unopened. I then calmly remove the AFCK from my hip pocket and hand it to them. Their reaction? They calmly open the knife and use it to open whatever. They then ask me why I've fallen over laughing. So I explain to them that the "little" knife they just casually used to open their package is every bit as dangerous/harmless as the "big" one that they were so afraid of. All of the people that I associate with are now perfectly comfortable with me using any knife in any manner (one handed, flicking, whatever), know why?
Because I've convinced their sub concious, by exposing them to wicked blades(I usually have a Spyderco Civilian on me) and demonstrating that even though I could go nuts and murder them, I didn't. I have made them see that to me Knives, in all shapes and forms are just tools. Be the task at hand to open a box, or open a BG. However, the only drawback is that this "training" process usually takes about a week for each person. Maybe eventually, I'll be able to cut that down to a day, of five minutes. Now that would be optimal.
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Joe
 
Ahhh...Silverwing! Welcome to the frustrated bunch! I've seen too many of this tread and it amazes me each and everytime i read it. I too have many of this encounters but i have many work to do now, i'll tell stories later. Guys, maybe i should compile this into a log or something.....thoughts anyone?
 
Hmm ... one place I used to work ... after a while whenever we got a new worker, or somebody from another department came over, several of the women I worked with would come over to me with the unsuspecting newcomer in tow and ask me to cut something, just to see the newbie jump when I whipped out my knife.

-Cougar Allen :{)
 
Thanks silverwing. I've tried to get her interested, but it just isn't working. She even went to a knife show with me, and lasted about an hour and a half. I go shopping with her all the time in hopes that I can trade the hours in.
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I'm just as bored clothes shopping as she is at the knife shows though. I hope to get her to the Blade Show in 2000, since there is so much amazing stuff there that she might actually have fun. She really is pretty sweet about it, she just doesn't understand.

Five or six years ago I was dating a young woman that worked at the same place I did. We were in a bookstore and I pulled out my SAK to cut a thread on my shirt. She gasped and asked me what I was doing with "that" while looking nervously around the store. A SAK! We didn't date very long.
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Paul Davidson

Them:"What's that clipped to your pocket, a beeper?"
Me:"Uuh....yeah, something like that."


 
Oh my God, Here I thought I was the experiencing this alone. I live in nyc, where it is commom pratice not to carry a knife. We have metal detector in all government buildings and also in most hotel, the employee entrance have metal detectors. I usually carry two on me and people would freak when I pull out my AFCK. They are like are you in a gang or something. I am like are you stupid or something?? I try to convert, had some success and still trying.

Liong
 
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