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Carbon Fiber and Titanium...So What?

I like titanium. I think it's great for framelocks where it adds a little more substance to the handle, more surface area contact with the blade tang during lock-up, and keeps the weight down (compared to steel of the same thickness.) I don't really get titanium linerlocks though; personally, I'd rather have steel. I can understand how titanium components would be important for strength/weight ratio on something like an aircraft, but in a pocket knife, I think that strength/dimension ratio is more important. Just my opinion, but I think the only real advantage to using ti in linerlocks is something knife-nuts don't usually care for and that is the propensity to 'stick' against a steel tang--which actually helps to keep the blade from folding during use, imo. Just my 2¢... :)

I like carbon fibre too. Tough, light, durable and it looks good. Plenty of other synthetic materials share similar properties though, so I don't go out of my way to get it. Plus I like variety... :thumbup:

-Brett
 
from 3 feet away a rolex might as well be a timex. Junkies usually rob houses or bust into cars. Rarely do they have guns because they likely sold it all ready. I am a watch and knife fan and rarely if ever do I spot nor can I make out what is on someones wrist or in their pocket. To do so your all ready too close for their comfort. And really I will never choose to live in so much fear as to not enjoy the finer things in life. If that means I make myself a target that is fine. But really from a comfortable distance you cant make out luxury goods. Its not like a womens purse where the whole outside is a banner advertisement for the designer.





I have a different philosophy. Dont carry what you cant part with if a gun is pulled on you. lol

I laugh at this, from 20' feet you can usually tell candy from trash. I make it a habit while in public to people watch, it pleases me to watch all the little mice scurry about. You can really tell the sheep from the wolves.

I learned at a young age advertisment of candy is just asking for trouble, thats why I always laugh when I see stickers on vehicles that are advertising nice sterios and guns. Those are the one's that end up with broken window's.

Also ever heard of Hi-Point? Junkies can get those easy enough.
 
HaHa, that's funny. Keep dreaming about the envy part. I am still waiting for the Busse Folder to go with my other Busse knives. Since I am also in the market for a good quality folder, I have been looking at all the Brand Name manufacturer's and my exact problem is the new trend of Ti, CF, and aluminum ( not sure how to abbreviate that one ). I was thinking real hard about the Spyderlion and Lionsteel SR2 in Ti or Aluminum, until I watched a certian YouTuber damage a high $$$ Ti Frame quite easily. I am in the market for quality and durability.

Buy once, cry once. No collector's pieces in my pocket's, user's only.

Given that my backyard is 500,000 acres of state forest, one can guess where I spend my time.

Not gonna touch anything else in your post, but the abbreviation for aluminum is Al ;)
 
Also ever heard of Hi-Point? Junkies can get those easy enough.

Around here, junkies use kitchen knives in cardboard sheaths.
Because anything more valuable can be traded for crack (Mmmm, delicious, delicious crack...:barf:)
 
I laugh at this, from 20' feet you can usually tell candy from trash. I make it a habit while in public to people watch, it pleases me to watch all the little mice scurry about. You can really tell the sheep from the wolves.

I learned at a young age advertisment of candy is just asking for trouble, thats why I always laugh when I see stickers on vehicles that are advertising nice sterios and guns. Those are the one's that end up with broken window's.

Also ever heard of Hi-Point? Junkies can get those easy enough.

I like cf and ti, I have not yet had a chance to try them together. Hopefully I will soon.

I enjoy pretty knives, cars, houses, and everthing else. I will never let other people dictate what I should or shouldn't have because of few foul balls that could or couldn't take them from me.

I try not to live in fear of the unknown. It could happen, but it can be replaced.

When I take my husky to the park he sticks his head out the window just about the whole time. Once in a while he will come in, when he's out the window he will get bugs in his face, rain, but these things don't out weigh the joy he gets, the freedom of the wind, air, it means so much to him that it's a small price to pay.
 
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I'm noticing a trend: newbies tend to have little knowledge or taste when it comes to knives. Paid members have great taste in knives and materials. Coincidence?

Taste is extremely subjective and this statement has snob written all over it.

If you're taking enough time out of your day to notice who has good taste (to your standards) and who doesn't, you're doing it wrong.
 
When I take my husky to the park he sticks his head out the window just about the whole time. Once in a while he will come in, when he's out the window he will get bugs in his face, rain, but these things don't out weigh the joy he gets, the freedom of the wind, air, it means so much to him that it's a small price to pay.

And when he comes in momentarily, it is just to say "this is the best day ever." We can learn a great deal from our dogs.
 
We can learn a great deal from our dogs.

Or any pet. :)
I learned valuable lessons from my last 2 pets; "Keep on moving till you're dead." And, "Any day you can breathe and eat is good."
It's pretty good advice.
 
I laugh at this, from 20' feet you can usually tell candy from trash. I make it a habit while in public to people watch, it pleases me to watch all the little mice scurry about. You can really tell the sheep from the wolves.

I learned at a young age advertisment of candy is just asking for trouble, thats why I always laugh when I see stickers on vehicles that are advertising nice sterios and guns. Those are the one's that end up with broken window's.

Also ever heard of Hi-Point? Junkies can get those easy enough.

I'm not too worried. Nobody would ever think by looking at me that my watch is real. I'm a recovering meth addict, former drug dealer, infantry vet, and overall look like your average biker trash.

:p



(In case you're wondering, my fingers say PARA NOID)
 
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Charlie Mike
All the very best with your recovery, I sincerely mean that.
Cheers

Thanks! I got 23 days since my last drink but all I have is today.
 
Me? I'm a fan of exotic materials on knives, whether it's lightning strike carbon fiber or mammoth bark ivory (I have both), whether it's stainless steel framed or titanium framed (I have both), whether it's ZDP-189 or M4 (I have both).

I work in aviation. I'm an engineer. I like lightweight materials and insanely thoughtful designs. To me, that's the heart of the knife, the materials and the design. How they work together to create a tool that is both functional and beautiful. We can get varying levels of functionality anywhere. Seriously. The vast majority of what we use knives for on a daily basis can be fulfilled with a ragged chunk of scrap metal. I have yet to see the carboard box that could withstand a jagged piece of scrap metal.

There is a wonderful economic argument for knives (and other things, including hammers). We get the most value from that first dollar spent. I.e., we get that sharpened hunk of metal which will actually do the vast majority of what you need to do with a knife and you can get it for a buck (or less). Every additional dollar above that spent on that hunk of sharp metal is spent on aesthetics: a nicer handle, better steel, a folding mechanism, a blade lock, etc. So, we who are into knives as a hobby, as an interest, as an avocation, spend more on our knives that normal people. Because we are sensitive to the aesthetics. Yes, yes, "my Strider is vastly more functional than a sharpened hunk of metal!" Of course it is. Sort of. But, really, do I need a $400 knife to open packages? Absolutely not. My one dollar hunk of sharpened scrap metal will do that quite handily. But it won't be elegant. It won't be beautiful. It won't have that slick, ball bearing flipper action that makes me swoon. It's the aesthetics. It's the user experience. It's what it means to us, the individual, the joy we derive from using an elegant/tough/tactical/traditional/whatever knife in our daily lives.

Tastes differ. Some people like jigged bone. Some people like cocobola wood. Some people like carbon fiber. Do we NEED any of those things? No. Are they central to the user's experience? Absolutely. Can we justify (rationalize) our choices? Certainly. And that's exactly what we do. Does the .06 ounce saved by using carbon fiber instead of G10 make a significant difference to the functionality of the knife? Nope. Not a bit. However, it really is central to the user's experience of that knife. Is a titanium frame going to give me some additional capability vis a vis that carboard box? Sadly, no. But, it's central to my experience using that knife. And that experience is part of what makes me who I am.

My point, and I do have one, is that whether you personally feel like rationalizing carbon fiber on your personal knives is irrelevant. Other people can and do just as others rationalize cocobola wood or G10. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.
 
Ti is here to stay.
CF is not only super strong, it feels great, sticks in the hand, and it won't shred your pocket.
rolf
 
I laugh at this, from 20' feet you can usually tell candy from trash. I make it a habit while in public to people watch, it pleases me to watch all the little mice scurry about. You can really tell the sheep from the wolves.

I learned at a young age advertisment of candy is just asking for trouble, thats why I always laugh when I see stickers on vehicles that are advertising nice sterios and guns. Those are the one's that end up with broken window's.

Also ever heard of Hi-Point? Junkies can get those easy enough.

Sorry, Im calling BS. I will guarantee you without a single threat of doubt that from 20 feet you would not be able to tell the difference between a fake or real submariner. There are fakes and replicas that are so good these days that the actual employees of these companies need to take the items apart to validate authenticity. It happens in knives as well. Mick Strider stated that when copies of his SMF and SNG first surfaced he could not tell them apart from his own work at first. And sorry but the whole mice, sheep wolves talk? My experience has been that most of the people who talk like that, especially on a forum are either paranoid, full of it or they have a 3rd degree blackbelt in mall ninjutsu. I myself learned at a young age not to judge a book by its cover. As such I never developed the spidey senses your childhood training has afforded you nor the superiority complex that apparently comes along with such abilities. But even if one day some sharp eyed junky spots my watch at 20 paces and decides it will support his next fix I will take that chance. I try not to live in fear of what will happen and let it dictate my decisions. To me that is no way to live. But for all our differences at least we share one commonality. We both find each other amusing.


P.S. most junkies again, dont carry anything of any value that included even the cheapest firearm. Even a cheap gun has value on the street. If a junkie can convert any tangible item into a fix its gone. Another poster is right its more likely a kitchen knife you will face. How would I know? I was junkie for a spell. And I can admit that because I put myself on no pedestal next to my fellow man.
 
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