Carbon fiber Caly 3 or Carbon fiber Stretch II?

[gldfshkpr]

Ah, well, I don't know how old you are, and if you're young, that may have had something to do with it. Did you ask for your knife back when he dropped you off? Did you ask if there was somewhere where you could pick it up?

If he thinks you may pose a threat to himself or someone else, he certainly has the right to divest you of your "weapon" at that time, but if you haven't committed a crime you have the right to ask for it back, usually by picking it up at the station. You may not get it back, and few people will go to court for a knife that's not even $100, but it's not legal for the police to simply take your property and keep it for no good reason.

I'm 44 years old. I had forgotten I even had the knife on my person. I guess I was drunk enough for the officer to search me - not so sure that was legal either. I posed no threat. I personally believe the officer thought it a nice enough knife to take it. I know better now to ask for a receipt. I regret that incident. Live and learn.

Edit: I forgot to mention the reason I was stopped; Riding without a light on my bicycle. /highjack

 

[THG]

The legal limit for blade length for a folding knife in the state of California is 6", which is why Cold Steel is based in Ventura, but I've heard some local laws are different, though I don't know where.

There is no limit on the size of blade for a folding knife in CA, as long as it's not a switchblade or gravity knife (it must have bias toward closure). Check PC653k.

 

[The Deacon]

They may be the same thickness at the top of the blade but at the edge the Caly3 is thinner. And thinner always cuts better but it is a trade off between thinness and strength of the edge. Thicker is stronger but thinner cuts better. I have a Chris Reeve Small Sebenza that has been reground by Tom Krein and it will cut circles around the former and much thicker edge Chris had put on the edge from the CRK shop. In fact my Spydercos were a better slicer than the Sebenza but after Tom had reground the blade it cut so much better.

RKH

RKH

Not sure how you're coming up with that. If you actually measured the thicknesses of both at the top of the bevel, then ok. If you're just reasoning this out based on the Caly 3 blade being broader, and thus having a more acute overall angle, you could be wrong. The spine of the Stretch ahead of the Spyderhole, is thinner than that of the Caly 3. IMHO both are superb slicers.

DavidZ and Deacon I may have to give the StretchII another more in depth look if you gentlemen think it is the best knife Spyderco has made. It kinda reminds me of the now discontinued Worker which I wish I still had. That was a fine knife in its own right.

RKH

Think you will like what you see.

Paul

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[k12s]

I also like the Stretch and have been eying it for some time. How would some of you guys that have both the Stretch 2 and the BG-42 Military compare the two.

I've read reviews that have stated that both knives are the best models Spyderco has ever made.

Thanks

 

[The Deacon]

I also like the Stretch and have been eying it for some time. How would some of you guys that have both the Stretch 2 and the BG-42 Military compare the two.

I've read reviews that have stated that both knives are the best models Spyderco has ever made.

Thanks

Military is a few grams lighter and has a .5" longer blade, but is considerably, and disproportionately, more bulky. It's over an inch longer closed, and about 1.5 times as thick. Stretch is a much better slicer, due to the thinner blade. Military's peel-ply CF will cause more wear and tear on your pockets than the textured CF on the Stretch. Stretch is fully ambidextrous and allows TU/TD RH/LH carry while Military has a handed lock and is set up for RH TD only.

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[Vivi]

I can operate my Military just fine with my left hand. Same with the Tenacious. Really none of the Spydercos in my collection give me trouble opening and closing left handed (Liner lock, back lock and compression lock).

Did not find my Stretch that has since been traded to be much thinner at the edge than my BG42 Military, nor have I ever had a Spyderco tear up my pockets (Only one knife has, a Kershaw EnerG with sandpaper for handles). Stretch does have a much better blade to handle ratio, but the oversized handle of the Military is nice with gloves on. Stretch carries much better but I find the Military more ergonomic and I prefer the blade shape.

Caly will carry the best and is my favorite for most tasks. The larger Military is nice for the outdoors or when doing a lot of cutting.

Regardless of which of the three knives is thinner at the edge, it isn't like you can't take any of them to an extra extra course DMT bench stone and fix them yourselves. The steels we're discussing (ZDP, BG42 etc.) easily work with such edges. For example my ZDP Caly Jr:

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[colubrid]

If he thinks you may pose a threat to himself or someone else, he certainly has the right to divest you of your "weapon" at that time, but if you haven't committed a crime you have the right to ask for it back, usually by picking it up at the station. You may not get it back, and few people will go to court for a knife that's not even $100, but it's not legal for the police to simply take your property and keep it for no good reason.

I once was in a bar fight and the cops took my spyderco which was in my pocket along with some brass knuckles. he let me go free but I never would have asked for these items back since I could get charged just by imcriminating myself that I had these on me....

correct or not? ...Can police keep things and if you ask for them back later you can get charged with a crime??? Sounds like the police know how to get things for free.

 

[shangchi108]

correct or not? ...Can police keep things and if you ask for them back later you can get charged with a crime??? Sounds like the police know how to get things for free.

I guess it depends on the "things". Since brass knuckles are illegal, I don't think it would be a good idea for you to ask for them back. You wouldn't do that if you had been caught with drugs, would you? You should be glad you didn't end up in jail.

 

[THG]

Brass knuckles are illegal in the US, as far as I know. A knife isn't, but if you asked for your "stuff" back, he'd probably bust you for having the knuckles. So maybe it was kind of a trade off.

 

[colubrid]

Brass knuckles are illegal in the US, as far as I know. A knife isn't, but if you asked for your "stuff" back, he'd probably bust you for having the knuckles. So maybe it was kind of a trade off.

Yes it was a trade off AND THE COP KNEW IT. he knew i would not call the dept the next day and complain about my spyderco being taken along with the brass knuckles.

BTW this was like 16 years ago and I had that spyderco since the early 80's. I still miss it today. The "brass" knuckles were also not really brass but aluminum. You can buy them at any gun show and they are being sold as paperweights. I also had a carry permit (not that it makes knuckles legal to carry) and i was defending my life against an attacker.

Anyway my point was that police have a cart blanch to steal if they let you go. Kinda a catch 22.

 

[Reeek]

Yes it was a trade off AND THE COP KNEW IT. he knew i would not call the dept the next day and complain about my spyderco being taken along with the brass knuckles.

BTW this was like 16 years ago and I had that spyderco since the early 80's. I still miss it today. The "brass" knuckles were also not really brass but aluminum. You can buy them at any gun show and they are being sold as paperweights. I also had a carry permit (not that it makes knuckles legal to carry) and i was defending my life against an attacker.

Anyway my point was that police have a cart blanch to steal if they let you go. Kinda a catch 22.

I hope he's enjoying your Spyderco

 

[shangchi108]

Anyway my point was that police have a cart blanch to steal if they let you go. Kinda a catch 22.

Well, power does corrupt, but I tend to think the vast majority of LEOs are honest and ethical. It's possible that your aluminum knuckles ended up getting destroyed, as they do to many confiscated contraband, and your knife ended up in their collection of confiscated weapons and not in the officer's pocket.

Besides, think of it logically from their perspective. They caught you with an illegal weapon after you had been in a fight. Did you think they'd put your weapons in two piles and give you the legal ones and take the illegal ones without charging you with possession? Maybe if you hadn't been carrying the one illegal weapon, you might have your Spyderco in your pocket now.

So, whose fault was it, really? Don't carry illegal stuff.