Carbon fiber knife

jdm61 said:
...... But that doesn't mean that we will never see another incident where someone is trolling the forums looking for controversial topics to write some sensationalist article or sound bite on.
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My point exactly.

There is a difference between "free speech" and using it intelligently.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
ok, then. member One 5150 Bomb k9 joined the forums two days ago and posted three times before i "responded" to his inquiry, twice in a thread about saps, where he asked where to get a specific model, and then here.

question:

why does a police officer need a knive that gets through securitiy devices unnoticed? i thought these guys are heavy loaded with countless metallic gadgets, one more ore less doesn't stop the detector from beeping. when it does: show your badge and get through it.

conclusion:

One 5150 Bomb k9 mentioned that he is a LA PO only to gain credibility.

but: very probably One 5150 Bomb k9 doesn't need neither a cf knife nor a sap when on duty.

next question:

why should a private person want to buy a sap and a cf knife?

heck, i really don't know, that's why i didn't want to give a hint. has this guy a strange agenda? does he lurk about other forums about silencers, high-tech crossbows, invisibility cloaks, and micro anti-personnel mines? probably not, maybe yes, however, i don't want to help, and i wanted to make that clear.

and: NO, i don't want all this stuff banned! i am proud to live in a country that allows me as soldier to store my gun and ammunition in my private wardrobe, to carry the knives i want, to call the government names if i like. but to protect these rights means to exercise them with a certain sense of responsibility, which also includes the right to say: you must be allowed to buy and carry a cf knife, but i won't tell you where to get one, because i don't know you and your ulterior motive (remember voltaire: "i disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.").

and then, cf is difficult to forge, harden and temper, no hamons, boring cf-damascus patterns, doesn't keep an edge, and it's ugly, even with a fossil walrus ivory handle.

have a nice evening,
hans
 
brightred said:
ok, then. member One 5150 Bomb k9 joined the forums two days ago and posted three times before i "responded" to his inquiry, twice in a thread about saps, where he asked where to get a specific model, and then here.

question:

why does a police officer need a knive that gets through securitiy devices unnoticed? i thought these guys are heavy loaded with countless metallic gadgets, one more ore less doesn't stop the detector from beeping. when it does: show your badge and get through it.

conclusion:

One 5150 Bomb k9 mentioned that he is a LA PO only to gain credibility.

but: very probably One 5150 Bomb k9 doesn't need neither a cf knife nor a sap when on duty.

next question:

why should a private person want to buy a sap and a cf knife?

heck, i really don't know, that's why i didn't want to give a hint. has this guy a strange agenda? does he lurk about other forums about silencers, high-tech crossbows, invisibility cloaks, and micro anti-personnel mines? probably not, maybe yes, however, i don't want to help, and i wanted to make that clear.

and: NO, i don't want all this stuff banned! i am proud to live in a country that allows me as soldier to store my gun and ammunition in my private wardrobe, to carry the knives i want, to call the government names if i like. but to protect these rights means to exercise them with a certain sense of responsibility, which also includes the right to say: you must be allowed to buy and carry a cf knife, but i won't tell you where to get one, because i don't know you and your ulterior motive (remember voltaire: "i disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.").

and then, cf is difficult to forge, harden and temper, no hamons, boring cf-damascus patterns, doesn't keep an edge, and it's ugly, even with a fossil walrus ivory handle.

have a nice evening,
hans
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Good stuff, Hans. Do you happen to live in Switzerland? Just wondering because of the weapon in the wardrobe remark. Interesting that he mentioned saps too. They are considered to be weapons in states that have CCW laws and in some jusrisdictions are illegal.
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Kohai999 said:
My point exactly.

There is a difference between "free speech" and using it intelligently.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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Here, here, Steven. Fuerhtermore, even though we do have free speech, history has taught us that many people do not have a lot of sympathy for rights when they do not see that particular right as being important or even legitimate. Nowhere is this so glaring as with the 2nd Amendment and related topics. Sure they people who want to take your stuff away will "defend your right to free speech to the bitter end".....but they will also use what you say against you, of course all the time saying that it is for the "greater good"
 
One reason that a PO would want a CF knife would be if the officer worked under cover and wanted to carry protection that couldn't be found with a metal detector. However, a PO should be able to get all information about the availability of these knives from someone on his force. The majority of people looking for this kind of knife want one that can get past detectors at airports, government buildings, etc. Not something I am going to help anyone do.
 
jdm61 said:
Good stuff, Hans. Do you happen to live in Switzerland? Just wondering because of the weapon in the wardrobe remark. Interesting that he mentioned saps too. They are considered to be weapons in states that have CCW laws and in some jusrisdictions are illegal.
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thanks, jdm61! yes, i am swiss. i have a SIG P226 at home and plenty of ammunition. this is going to change soon, unfortunately, because more and more weirdos forget why they were allowed to keep the weapon at home. certainly not to gun down their families and neighbours...

regards,
hans
 
brightred said:
thanks, jdm61! yes, i am swiss. i have a SIG P226 at home and plenty of ammunition. this is going to change soon, unfortunately, because more and more weirdos forget why they were allowed to keep the weapon at home. certainly not to gun down their families and neighbours...

regards,
hans
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And they will completely ignore tha fact that Switzerland probably has a lower vioent crime rate than European countries that have ridiculous gun control. I was actually surprised to learn that you can still own a handgun in France. You have to jump through a lot of hoops,but the law says you can get a permit for one.
 
brightred said:
ok, then. member One 5150 Bomb k9 joined the forums two days ago and posted three times before i "responded" to his inquiry, twice in a thread about saps, where he asked where to get a specific model, and then here.

question:

why does a police officer need a knive that gets through securitiy devices unnoticed? i thought these guys are heavy loaded with countless metallic gadgets, one more ore less doesn't stop the detector from beeping. when it does: show your badge and get through it.

conclusion:

One 5150 Bomb k9 mentioned that he is a LA PO only to gain credibility.

but: very probably One 5150 Bomb k9 doesn't need neither a cf knife nor a sap when on duty.

next question:

why should a private person want to buy a sap and a cf knife?

heck, i really don't know, that's why i didn't want to give a hint. has this guy a strange agenda? does he lurk about other forums about silencers, high-tech crossbows, invisibility cloaks, and micro anti-personnel mines? probably not, maybe yes, however, i don't want to help, and i wanted to make that clear.

and: NO, i don't want all this stuff banned! i am proud to live in a country that allows me as soldier to store my gun and ammunition in my private wardrobe, to carry the knives i want, to call the government names if i like. but to protect these rights means to exercise them with a certain sense of responsibility, which also includes the right to say: you must be allowed to buy and carry a cf knife, but i won't tell you where to get one, because i don't know you and your ulterior motive (remember voltaire: "i disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.").

and then, cf is difficult to forge, harden and temper, no hamons, boring cf-damascus patterns, doesn't keep an edge, and it's ugly, even with a fossil walrus ivory handle.

have a nice evening,
hans
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I understand why you responded that way Hans.
 
Keith Montgomery said:
One reason that a PO would want a CF knife would be if the officer worked under cover and wanted to carry protection that couldn't be found with a metal detector. However, a PO should be able to get all information about the availability of these knives from someone on his force. The majority of people looking for this kind of knife want one that can get past detectors at airports, government buildings, etc. Not something I am going to help anyone do.
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I understand THAT completely!! I once bought a Mad Dog ALL ceramic knife, but not because I wanted to do anything illegal, but because it seemed like a neat knife for my collection. And I wasn't thinking about that when I offered my help, I was just thinking about helping. :( I assure you, that I WILL next time.
 
You guys are all caught up in the post 9/11 paranoia. No one is going to close down this site because we told them where to buy a carbon fiber knife. For that matter, AGRussell sells flint/wood knives and their famous CIA letter opener that can just as easily go through checkpoints. Coldsteel has been selling plastic knives for years and a few years ago expanded their line.

Why would anyone want a knife that can go through security checkpoints? Maybe they see the security and the government as being the threat not themselves. The USA was founded by people who believed that citizens have the right to use deadly force to initiate changes in government.

Why shouldn't someone be allowed to protect themselves with a weapon in a government building? What about the late night walk from that secure building to your car parked on the street? You should be able to carry your weapon.

Would the 9/11 hijackers have been successful if one man with a carbon fiber knife sneaked through security stood up and stopped them? That''s the true 9/11 lesson, protect yourself don't depend on security.

Taking your weapon away does not make you or society secure. Allowing you to defend youself and your fellow citizens does make you secure.

Per the BBC, the Swiss may lose their guns because they have a strange predilication of using them for suicide. My thought is that they should address the reasons people are committing suicide rather than taking their weapons.
 
brownshoe said:
You guys are all caught up in the post 9/11 paranoia. No one is going to close down this site because we told them where to buy a carbon fiber knife. For that matter, AGRussell sells flint/wood knives and their famous CIA letter opener that can just as easily go through checkpoints. Coldsteel has been selling plastic knives for years and a few years ago expanded their line.

Why would anyone want a knife that can go through security checkpoints? Maybe they see the security and the government as being the threat not themselves. The USA was founded by people who believed that citizens have the right to use deadly force to initiate changes in government.

Why shouldn't someone be allowed to protect themselves with a weapon in a government building? What about the late night walk from that secure building to your car parked on the street? You should be able to carry your weapon.

Would the 9/11 hijackers have been successful if one man with a carbon fiber knife sneaked through security stood up and stopped them? That''s the true 9/11 lesson, protect yourself don't depend on security.

Taking your weapon away does not make you or society secure. Allowing you to defend youself and your fellow citizens does make you secure.

Per the BBC, the Swiss may lose their guns because they have a strange predilication of using them for suicide. My thought is that they should address the reasons people are committing suicide rather than taking their weapons.
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Interesting that even the Swiss have gone from wanting to protect others from you to wanting to protect you from yourself throuhg legislation:D As far as this posts goes, the concern is NOT that the forum will be closed down. A while back, some "writer" was trolling the forums asking lotsof questions. He took the stuff he found, "editorialized" it a bit and wrote some very unflattering things about the forumites. The concern at British Blades is that the tabloids have demonstrated a marked tendancy to sensationalize "bad news" beyong anything we are used to in the mass media. Parliament listens and now they are talking about the posibility of banning Japanese swords. I wasn't aware that so many crimes were being perpetrated with katanas, but there you have it:D
 
brightred said:
ok, then. member One 5150 Bomb k9 joined the forums two days ago and posted three times before i "responded" to his inquiry, twice in a thread about saps, where he asked where to get a specific model, and then here.

question:

why does a police officer need a knive that gets through securitiy devices unnoticed? i thought these guys are heavy loaded with countless metallic gadgets, one more ore less doesn't stop the detector from beeping. when it does: show your badge and get through it.

conclusion:

One 5150 Bomb k9 mentioned that he is a LA PO only to gain credibility.

but: very probably One 5150 Bomb k9 doesn't need neither a cf knife nor a sap when on duty.

next question:

why should a private person want to buy a sap and a cf knife?

heck, i really don't know, that's why i didn't want to give a hint. has this guy a strange agenda? does he lurk about other forums about silencers, high-tech crossbows, invisibility cloaks, and micro anti-personnel mines? probably not, maybe yes, however, i don't want to help, and i wanted to make that clear.

and: NO, i don't want all this stuff banned! i am proud to live in a country that allows me as soldier to store my gun and ammunition in my private wardrobe, to carry the knives i want, to call the government names if i like. but to protect these rights means to exercise them with a certain sense of responsibility, which also includes the right to say: you must be allowed to buy and carry a cf knife, but i won't tell you where to get one, because i don't know you and your ulterior motive (remember voltaire: "i disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.").

and then, cf is difficult to forge, harden and temper, no hamons, boring cf-damascus patterns, doesn't keep an edge, and it's ugly, even with a fossil walrus ivory handle.

have a nice evening,
hans
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Hans,
I see your point.
But the "practical Tactical" forum is full of questions like this. (best knife for self defence, how to conceal a CS Trailmaster Bowie) I usually don't post over there. But this is the custom knife forum.
My "rant" was triggered by your "nobody needs a carbon fiber blade only freaks" comment. I did not check the original posters join date or nr of posts.
Do I need a carbon fiber blade - no. Do I want one - yes. Am I a freak - I don't think so. I would buy one just to have it, not to carry or smuggle through metal detectors.
In my country (Belgium) balisongs were recently "outlawed" and could be surrendered to the local police station (without any financial compensation). As I stated before, can you imagine having to surrender your high priced custom balisong, or carbon fiber blade, or sword, because all of a sudden they are outlawed, banned?
You are lucky to live in a country where you can carry the knife you want and keep your gun if you served in the military.
Kind regards,
Jos
 
jos and jdm61

some valid points i didn't consider. btw. the main reason why we won't be allowed to keep the personal weapon and/or ammunition at home in the future is not the suicide rate (which has always been high, but, compared to other european countries, not dramatically high. and: only officers and some higher ranked non-commissioned officers get a hand gun. most soldiers have a (long) rifle, which is not very suitable for suicide, if i may say so...), it's mainly the killings of family members by close (male) relatives like fathers and husbands.

i exaggerated a bit when i said that i am allowed to carry every knife i like. autos are banned in switzerland, unfortunately. but not because of the autos themselves, but because of the guys who buy and use them...

brownshoe said:
The USA was founded by people who believed that citizens have the right to use deadly force to initiate changes in government.
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i sincerely hope that lincoln, garfield, mckinley, and kennedy are not able to read your lines.

regards,
hans
 
Kohai999 said:
WTF is it going to take for you to use the FILTER that you are equipped with?
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Is this the Websters definition of Irony?:confused:



(Sorry STeven, I read it this morning and just about spit cappachino all over my monitor.:D And I'd add that sometimes it's useful to have one of those "non FILTERED" people in a discussion.:) )
 
Has this turned into a political discussion? What the heck is that doing in the custom knife forum?

In my opinion, carbon fiber knives are next to useless as anything other than covert weapons. I think they are ugly. they don't sharpen well, and they don't hold an edge worth a dang. Though I don't care for titanium, if I was looking for a knife that wouldn't trigger a magnetic switch in a bomb, I would much rather have a titanium knife than a carbon fiber one. Mission titanium knives even hold an edge fairly well, and you can easily get them pretty sharp.
 
I would also rather have a titanium knife than a CF knife. At least I can use a titanium knife.
 
OilMan said:
Is this the Websters definition of Irony?:confused:



(Sorry STeven, I read it this morning and just about spit cappachino all over my monitor.:D And I'd add that sometimes it's useful to have one of those "non FILTERED" people in a discussion.:) )
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Oil, you know what I mean.

There is a total difference between spouting off with an unpopular or contentious opinion, and giving ammunition to those that would take away things that we love.(maybe a bit melodramatic here, but hopefully, you get the point)

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
The bali's were banned here in Texas. I guess we didn't need them. Any knife with a Lock is a no no in San Antonio. But I Can still carry a .45. The Cali-weird whack-o's are taking over every where!
 
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