Carbon Fiber Odysseys

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Dennis Wright

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Jeff, I just received my first shipment of 182FXCF Carbon Fiber Odysseys today. It appears that my reservations about these knives may have been a bit premature. These thing are NICE. You have really done a great job with the clear coat over the CF. Nice work.

Now to see how well they sell. I have been pleasantly surprized at how well the G10 models are doing so I have High hopes for these.



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Dennis Wright
Wright Knife & Sporting Goods

wrightknife@ixpres.com

 
Stop! You're giving us all a swelled head!

We're having a lot of fun with that design, and a lot of luck too.

Pete
 
Dennis,
I used mine over vacation as my main utility knife during our Bathroom remodel. It got heavily used for drywall, piping, general chores, carving a little more plywood out of a hole etc, and it came through with flying colors.
I started carrying the knife in April off and on, and started carrying it daily when I started the field testing group mid June. After heavy use during the remodel, It still cuts paper per our standard test. I was impressed. The handles themselves showed some signs of scratching on the resign layers, but not down to the carbon fiber layers. So far we have not seen any CF that looks like ours and none seem to be resin covered. It pops visually.
I hope sales go good for you.
Jeff

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Jeff "Without data it's just another opinion" Hubbard
Quality Supervisor

JeffH@buckknives.com
www.buckknives.com
Watch for Pete's Custom Knife Shoppe on www.buckknives.com

 
All,
I just received my Odyssey 182-fxcf yesterday
and have to say I am impressed. It is well
designed and well constructed. I am going to
obtain a second one for a using knife.
I also received a Lightning II 175-fx in teal
and WOW!! It is possibly the sharpest out of
the box knife I have ever received. It shaves like a dream. The Odyssey, however, while sharp, is not shaving sharp like the
175. I will touch it up on my Lansky and see
if I can improve the edge. The edge2000 system apparently is still subject to human
or mechanical inconsistancies. Jeff, any
comment on this? In summary, I think Buck
has a winner in the carbon fiber Odyssey. It
is upmarket, yet still affordable. Its styling is modern (even though I still prefer
the OLD Bucks) and it appears to be well constructed. Now, we just have to wait for
Buck to be convinced to provide as an affordable option, a better steel. It is my
understanding that this is in the works and
I say the sooner the better. No more rambling! Larry

Bumper sticker I saw last week:
I love cats . . . they taste just like chicken!!
 
Larry,
The EDGE 2000 process is very much dependent on Human skill. It takes a special touch to do it right. Especially when you are doing 140 an hour 10 hours a day. I couldn't do it. The ATS is also harder to edge because of the hardness of the steel. It requires a different touch than the 420. It definately is a knack.
What did you think of the resin coating on the CF handle?

Jeff

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Jeff "Without data it's just another opinion" Hubbard
Quality Supervisor

JeffH@buckknives.com
www.buckknives.com
Watch for Pete's Custom Knife Shoppe on www.buckknives.com

 
Jeff,
I just touched up the edge on the 182-fxcf
with my Lansky. Using the fine diamond stone, it QUICKLY (30 - 40 light strokes)
took a razor edge which just pops the hair off my arm. I am eager to see how well it
will hold the edge.
As to the plastic coating over the carbon
fiber, it looks great. Is it likely to
scratch from pocket carry if coins or keys
hit it? What is its ability to resist cracking if the knife is dropped or falls to
a hard surface?
For all of you, please note Jeff's comment
on the edge 2000 sharpening system. It does
appear that we may find the occasional knife
which will need a touch-up. For those of you
who have read the RAZOR'S EDGE BOOK OF SHARPENING, by John Juranitch (spelling?), this edge 2000 system provides great relief.
According to John J. and my experience shows
he is right on target, relief is the basic
starting point to successful sharpening. By
relief, he means that enough steel must be removed to allow the sharpener to form a proper edge. Lack of relief results in too
great of an angle at the edge, diminishing the sharpness of the blade. He explains it
in his book much better than this. Also, it
has probably been 7 - 8 years since I read the book!! Again, however, my sharpening
experiece shows he is 100% correct: Proper
relief must be obtained.
Larry
 
I just tries a little experiment in the shop here based on what I just read.

I have an ATS34 plain blade 181FL with what appears to be the "old" grind in the show case. I pulled it out along with a new Carbon fiber 182FXCF, ATS34, partially serrated and with the new Edge 2000(tm)grind. Guess what? The "old" 181FL shaves the hair off my arm like a straight razor and the "new" 182FXCF doesn't. A few strokes on the Spyderco sharpmaker with the fine (white) stones fixed it, (there was a slight burr left on the edge), but it appears that Larry's observations are right on the money. Check your blades before you buy, if you can.

Larry, that resin looks pretty tough. From the looks of Jeff's knife, any damage on the handle came from when he was doing construction work with it.

There were a few marks at the top where he said that it was bumped up against things while clipped to his pocket. The marks were along the topmost edge above the clip and didn't look too deep.

All in all, this stuff should stand up pretty well. I generally don't like carbon fiber on a knife, but I have to admit I am willing to make an exception with the Buck process. It sure beats the heck out of what SOG, Boker and Spyderco had.

Wait 'till the lightenings come out with it.
(This is blatent lobbying. Buck hasn't decided to do that, yet....But they will.) Right Jeff???...Jeff??

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Dennis Wright
Wright Knife & Sporting Goods
La Mesa, Kalifornica
wrightknife@ixpres.com

 
It is disturbing to hear that the edges are not arriving as sharp as they should be. you should not have to "check" a Buck blade before you buy...I am forwarding this thread to ourProduction Director for his review.

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CJ Buck
Buck Knives, Inc.
AKTI Member #PR00003


 
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