Carbon V?

[Phil Gibbs]

Phil,
Would you happen to have exact chemical compositions of 0170-6 and 0170-6C?
Just want to keep database accurate

I believe pbcg has correctly provided the Sharon 0170-6 chemistry.
For 0170-6C use the chemistry for DM-1 provided on the A.G. Russell Steel Guide.
A.G. purchased the vast majority of the 0170-6C at the Camillus auction, and is referring to it as DM-1 (Dan Maragni 1).
Dan is also overseeing the heat treatment of all of A.G.'s DM-1 blades.

 

[Gator97]

Thanks Phil.
I have DM1 in database, but note said it was developed for A.G. specifically, which apparently isn't the case.
So, to summarize DM1 is same as 0170-6C, and those two should belong to the same group.
and 0170-6 is slightly different alloy, belongs in 1095CV group...

 

[Phil Gibbs]

Thanks Phil.
I have DM1 in database, but note said it was developed for A.G. specifically, which apparently isn't the case.
So, to summarize DM1 is same as 0170-6C, and those two should belong to the same group.
and 0170-6 is slightly different alloy, belongs in 1095CV group...

Seems correct to me, although, as a non metalurgist, I get nervous about "groups".

 

[Halfneck]

This is the best info I have seen on the old Carbon V steel. Thanks for posting it.

 

[Northernedge313]

Thanks everyone for the great info on the steel. I'm liking the knife a lot so far, it's pretty great.

 

[shunsui]

Here's a link to the 2010 thread where Toooj posted the time line info.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/803294-1095-1095-CroVan

 

[pbcg]

Here's a link to the 2010 thread where Toooj posted the time line info.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/803294-1095-1095-CroVan

Thanks for researching and posting this.

Very good info!

The bullets I quoted came from a different thread that I can't find now. I saved the notes and bullets but not the links.

 

[Mistwalker]

Thanks for researching and posting this.

Very good info!

The bullets I quoted came from a different thread that I can't find now. I saved the notes and bullets but not the links.

Sorry to revive such an old thread, but I'm going to put this here because I think this may be the thread PBCG got his bullets from in posts #2 and #11. I found it as part of the rabbit hole of researching what I could find on the DM-1 steel that was used in some A.G. Russell knives I did an article on for TK back in 2012. When I read the post I quoted I thought I should attach this for anyone doing the same sort of research I am.

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Thread 'Carbon V Steel vs 1095 Steel?'

Mar 28, 2006

Hey guys, maybe you can help? I am not that good with telling the difference between all grades of steel. As such, does anyone know the difference between the Cold Steel Carbon V steel and a 1095 steel? If so, is one better than the other?

Thanks!

• charlesbjr
• Replies: 31
• Forum: General Knife Discussion

 

[Alberta Ed]

I have a bunch of Carbon V (or whatever) knives from Cold Steel and Kabar. It's a great steel, tough, takes and holds an excellent edge, acquires a nice patina and is easy to sharpen. Corrosion is not a problem with treasonable care, like any high carbon steel.

 

[knarfeng]

Carbon is easier to sharpen and good retention.

Only drawback is more maintenence.

Carbon steel is also much smoother as a steel in my opinion.
As a chef, if I had 2 identical knives, one carbon and one stainless, id grab the carbon everytime.

Carbon V is not stainless.