The cardboard wheels have always impressed me.I use a couple of canvas laminated wheels I made using conveyer belt and contact cement. They work pretty good. I power them with 1725 speed 1/2HP,and found they are almost grab proof.They work good for hog buffing and do pretty decent for final polishing if, you go light pressure.I have seen razor edge put on power hacksaw blades by a local buddy using his cardboard wheel. They work pretty quick,too.