Carry laws in France?

Well this SAK I have is a Swiss Champ, so it should be almost all I need. But I would like to have something else like the avalanche around just because I'm not likely to carry that huge SAK in my pocket.

Did someone say most knives were more expensive there than in the US? I'm not sure how much personal time I will have but I would like to browse in some knife shops if I get the chance.

Matt
 
Just carry an Opinel. You can't walk into a corner store in France without seeing them on sale for acouple bucks (francs?)(euros!) apiece. A word of advice if you're not careful you may eat yourself to death.;) Enjoy yourself.
 
Originally posted by Sergiusz Mitin
Hmm, maybe I should state my thoughts somewhat more clearly although not as politely...
OK, in my honest opinion you more than likely do need to go there or anywhere else at least to get somewhat more matured and civilized.

No one country has ideal laws what could satisfy everyone. Just a small bit of tolerance and respect for people around you, no matter in what country...

Now reporting this post to Moderators :(

Grow up, tattletale. I'll bet you were the kid who got his ass kicked regularly in school, for being a pansy tattletale whenever someone did something you were too meek to do yourself. I stated my point, and my opinion. France does not deserve American visitors spending American dollars, because they are NOT friends of America. End of story. You have your feelings on it and I have mine. Kiss my ass if you don't like it.
 
Originally posted by mwgbb11
Well this SAK I have is a Swiss Champ, so it should be almost all I need. But I would like to have something else like the avalanche around just because I'm not likely to carry that huge SAK in my pocket.

Get a Companion. They are very slim and designed for urban carry.

Take your vacation wherever you want. But it's true: if it were me, I'd probably try to go somewhere else right now. :(
 
Again, its not really a vacation, and rude people don't bother me.:D

So I will be going unless of course some type of *gasp* unexpected war makes the situation too risky for travel. ;)

I will probably have a few new knives by then, so who knows what I'll end up taking along.
 
On the basis of the logic apparent here, Au must be the only friend America has and I'd better tell the front desk to go easy on the hordes of its knife toting citizens to be expected, assuming of course they don't stay home in a funk. Don't worry guys you'll have a wonderful time - just remember the beer is a lot stronger than yours.

American dollars they may be, but they are mwgbb11's dollars first and foremost, just as it is his business and no-one else's where he goes on bloody vacation.

Honestly, you guys carry on about Freedom etc when it suits don't you? Well live up to it then and by that I do NOT mean spouting off at someone else's choice of holiday destination. AND anyway, this IS an issue which is on any analysis highly complex, despite what Condy and the crew come out with. Yes, war is far and away the most likely outcome and the US and its allies (us included) will win THAT. It is what flows from that though - no way we can be certain we'll all be better off. Although inclined to proceed myself, I cannot deny that.

I have a genuine admiration and respect for America and like its people a great deal. At the same time, no fair dinkum Au would wear the sort of nonsense here for a second. That's part of what we understand Freedom to be.
 
Originally posted by switched
On the basis of the logic apparent here, Au must be the only friend America has and I'd better tell the front desk to go easy on the hordes of its knife toting citizens to be expected, assuming of course they don't stay home in a funk. Don't worry guys you'll have a wonderful time - just remember the beer is a lot stronger than yours.

American dollars they may be, but they are mwgbb11's dollars first and foremost, just as it is his business and no-one else's where he goes on bloody vacation.

Honestly, you guys carry on about Freedom etc when it suits don't you? Well live up to it then and by that I do NOT mean spouting off at someone else's choice of holiday destination. AND anyway, this IS an issue which is on any analysis highly complex, despite what Condy and the crew come out with. Yes, war is far and away the most likely outcome and the US and its allies (us included) will win THAT. It is what flows from that though - no way we can be certain we'll all be better off. Although inclined to proceed myself, I cannot deny that.

I have a genuine admiration and respect for America and like its people a great deal. At the same time, no fair dinkum Au would wear the sort of nonsense here for a second. That's part of what we understand Freedom to be.

Thanks, Au is the only continent I've yet to visit, and my first choice for my next intercontinental vacation, but keep in mind, many of us yanks, who fought the worlds wars when we where young, and financed them with our tax dollars when we get old, are fed up to the gills with 60yrs of socialist propagandists, cramming their elitist drivel down our throats. If it's not the Europeans, it's Canada. Complaining about the everything we do, tieing our hands in conflicts they asked us to bail them out of. French and Germans love to crow about the ill's of the world, and never hesitate to come crying for the U.S. to bail them out of a mess, all the while looking down their stuffy noses and complaining about how us Yanks have screwed up the world. Just once in my lifetime, I'd like to see Germany or France actually take the initiative to resolve an international problem, provide the manpower, and foot the bill, without whinning for money or help from the U.S. If it ever happens, I'll be sure to take special delight in sitting back and critisizing how went about it. They want us to protect them from terrorists, but don't want to extradite them, because we'll execute them, or try them as enemy combatants before military tribunals. They want us to provide the manpower, the resources, and foot the bill to cure the ill's of the world, while they criticize how we go about it. They complain we don't provide enough humanitarian aide, to the people trying to kill us. Yet they provide nothing! They call us barbarians for valuing freedoms they have surrendered, like the right to keep an bear arms. Then complain about being restricted by, or having to pay for excessive police and security forces. The last forty years, we've had to put up with it here at home from the environmental fanatics, and the hippy, peace/nik generation, that fried their brains on dope in the sixties and seventies. From Jane Fonda in Hanoi, to that group of demonstrators in Bagdad yesterday, calling themselves human shields, brandishing Kilashnikov rifles and pledging to die in defence of Saadam and Iraqi's. Before the first bomb goes off, they will undoubtedly be screaming first-amendment privilige, all the way home. They will sit in their comfortable recliners, and at their computers, cursing and spiting at the nation and people who provide that freedom of speach they feel so entitled to, but won't lift a finger to secure. When they don't have a war to complain about, they're trying to sue sombody, or take our guns, our SUV's or shut down industries, and cut off the water to entire towns, to save some endangered fruit fly or minnow. They won't celebrate veterans day, but they celebrate black history month, three months out of the year! They complain about the lack of discipline in the schools, but they outlaw corporal punishment, and demand refrences to the ten comandments be taken down. They restrict Christians from putting up nativity scenes in public buildings at Christmas, but make "Tolerance Training" where students are exposed to advocates for homosexual lifestyle groups, and Islamic clergy, an annual requirement from kindergarden threw college. Anyone like me who dares complain about any of their politically correct horse-pucky usually gets called a racist, a sexist, or a Nazi. Then they wonder why every once in a while, somebody goes postal on them!<g>
 
for all those proud american euro bashers:
The best for all, stay where you are, cleaning your knives and rifles to protect your familys from terrorists. stay in your narrowminded safe little world..
For all those openminded proud americans: Come to visit europe, it's your roots, it's culture, warm harted people, that learned a lot from their history. you're welcome!!!

greetings from spain!

btw: if you think that only because J.M.Aznar supports U.S. politics, us spaniards like your presidents sablerattlings...
90% is against your politics!!!

to your question:
i don't know french laws, but i think that a knife that carrys a bottleopener is allways legal ;)
 
Originally posted by surfer
btw: if you think that only because J.M.Aznar supports U.S. politics, us spaniards like your presidents sablerattlings...
90% is against your politics!!!

So I guess you politics are more in line with the now banned Batasuna Basque Sepratist Party, or perhapse the terrorist organization Euskadi ta Askatasuna?
 
To JD Braddy - Re your long post:

Oh look fair enough, absolutely.

The merit of much of what you say here is undeniable and significant, truly. And it has caused me to contemplate for a bit. I don't claim to be able to put myself exactly in your place, but believe I understand your feelings and the bases for them - mine wouldn't be radically different I think.

Look in the same vein, Chirac has been appalling with every move he has made recently, in my view. And this 'Project Mirage' proposal of his is flat out stupid - divides Europe, encourages Hussein to think there's an out, fails to stick by what was expressed in Resolution 1441, runs a considerable risk of undermining the UN permanently, leaves NATO up the spout, and so on and so on - all at the very moment when intelligence and solidarity were needed most. In hindsight we might well find that moves like that were what caused war to be unavoidable. And yes certainly there is an astounding arrogance combined with it also.

All I meant by what I said previously was, just because Chirac is an idiot doesn't mean we should in consequence write off France entirely for good and start hurling insults at the French at every opportunity. We can and should be better than that. Remember also, a lot of the outstanding principles on which America was built were inspired by the French - just look at your flag.

Anyway, however understandable a degree of anti-French feeling might be at present, I can't agree with that as a basis for proscribing someone in the manner a portion of this Forum would seem to want.

You'd like Au I think. Ironically enough for a country with highly restrictive gun and knife laws, we are not fond of regulation here and in many ways enjoy a greater degree of freedom than the US seems to in reality - a benefit of geography and being a small player I guess. Although of course as time goes by this gets eroded, unfortunately.

You will be welcome. And my sincere best wishes and appreciation for your next Veteran's Day. I never miss the Dawn Service on ANZAC day here.
 
Originally posted by switched
To JD Braddy - Re your long post:

Oh look fair enough, absolutely.

The merit of much of what you say here is undeniable and significant, truly. And it has caused me to contemplate for a bit. I don't claim to be able to put myself exactly in your place, but believe I understand your feelings and the bases for them - mine wouldn't be radically different I think.

Look in the same vein, Chirac has been appalling with every move he has made recently, in my view. And this 'Project Mirage' proposal of his is flat out stupid - divides Europe, encourages Hussein to think there's an out, fails to stick by what was expressed in Resolution 1441, runs a considerable risk of undermining the UN permanently, leaves NATO up the spout, and so on and so on - all at the very moment when intelligence and solidarity were needed most. In hindsight we might well find that moves like that were what caused war to be unavoidable. And yes certainly there is an astounding arrogance combined with it also.

All I meant by what I said previously was, just because Chirac is an idiot doesn't mean we should in consequence write off France entirely for good and start hurling insults at the French at every opportunity. We can and should be better than that. Remember also, a lot of the outstanding principles on which America was built were inspired by the French - just look at your flag.

Anyway, however understandable a degree of anti-French feeling might be at present, I can't agree with that as a basis for proscribing someone in the manner a portion of this Forum would seem to want.

You'd like Au I think. Ironically enough for a country with highly restrictive gun and knife laws, we are not fond of regulation here and in many ways enjoy a greater degree of freedom than the US seems to in reality - a benefit of geography and being a small player I guess. Although of course as time goes by this gets eroded, unfortunately.

You will be welcome. And my sincere best wishes and appreciation for your next Veteran's Day. I never miss the Dawn Service on ANZAC day here.

Thank you, and in reality we agree, I don't think most europeans really care to go so far as to make an enemy of a friend, they've just become so used to the US taking care of things, they now take it for granted. I don't hate europeans, just don't much appreciate being taken for granted. Here in the US, there is always pressure not to offend anyone, but the past couple years, I've determined that few people in this world worry about offending me, have really started to resent a lot of liberal rhetoric, and no longer feel very inhibited from offending them. I think Surfer is right about one thing, can't imagine anything with a bottle opener, being considered illegal.
 
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Rather than allowing your emotions to post, take some time, think about what you want to say and make sure it does not personally attack others. This is a lot better than the alternative: risk being banned from this site.
 
What gets me is how europe, in general, enjoys the luxury of not needing to spend $ on a meaningful military, nor the hatred recieved that comes with military operations, instead they gladly let us be burdened with it, then only when things threaten them or their $, will they back us and want help. Any other time, it's just bitching and moaning about how we are bullies etc. No wonder it seems everyone hates us for being bullies, it must seem that way since we take care of everyone's biz for them, but remember, this situation is very comfortable during peacetime and is welcomed by those that moan the loudest.
If a country wants to criticize our military moves, then maybe it's about high time for them to step up their own military spending and take care of some of the world threats them dam selves and maybe take some of the hatred that comes along with it.

Note, no personal attacks were in this post!

BTW, I'd probably take a SAK camper on your trip to france.
 
surfer wrote:
"for all those proud american euro bashers: The best for all, stay where you are, cleaning your knives and rifles to protect your familys from terrorists. stay in your narrowminded safe little world.. For all those openminded proud americans: Come to visit europe, it's your roots, it's culture, warm harted people, that learned a lot from their history."

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Thanks, surfer. As an open-minded, proud American, I'm going to take you up on that.

Incidentally, I can't bring a pocketknife to most amusment parks here in the States, but I NEVER had my possession of a knife questioned even once while I was living in Europe from 93-98, nor on my subsequent vacations back there to visit my wife's family. I think I'll visit France as soon as possible .... not as any sort of statement on the politics of their government or mine, but simply because they have great cities and countryside, and great wine and food (okay, AND because my wife's been nagging me to take us there!).
 
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