Carrying a flipper lose in pocket?

The only time I ever carried a flipper loose in my pocket was at the Wynn Casino in Vegas. The security guy saw my zt 0801ti clipped to my pocket and pulled me aside. He told me they werent allowed in Vegas which is not true. He was nice enough though and suggested I put the entire knife loose in my pocket so I didn’t argue with him. Let me tell you, I felt uncomfortable the whole time it was loose in my pocket. Some time later i just clipped it back to my pocket. Kick me out if you want.
 
Sometimes in certain situations I'll put my knife(flipper) loose in my pocket for up to 12 hours. I really dislike it because I am so use to clipping it, but it is no big deal at all. Never had a problem with it at all. I would keep coins and keys in other pockets though.
 
Personally I wouldn't be real worried about it unless it was an Assisted Opener. The biggest problem is the keys would beat it up and a large knife is uncomfortable carried like that.
 
I see zero problems unless the detent is so weak that you can just kind of shake the knife open. Or if it's assisted-open.
 
As an option to a slip carry, I know there are inventive folks who have sewn a seam into the pocket itself, creating a divider in the pocket that serves as an integral slip of sorts. I don't have a link handy but maybe someone has it bookmarked. I've seen it in pocket slip threads in the Traditional Knives forum.
 
ZT flipper loose in pocket? A 0450 perhaps? I second the knife slip idea as that is the best way to carry clipless, especially with other junk in the same pocket.

If you don't want to buy a slip, they are real easy to make. I bought a square foot or so sized piece of leather, waxed thread and a set of leather sewing needles for $30 CAN and banged out three quick slips for my two mini-trappers and a larger one for my large stockman with enough to make a couple more. Looks pretty good too for something that is going to bang around in my pocket. Someone recommended having the smooth side for the inside (where the knife resides) and the rougher part on the outside. That way the rough side "sticks" better in the pocket.
 
Opening of a stiff detent kinfe, like a zt 0450/0452, is really unlikely. I don't think being a flipper has much to do with it. It's simply the detent strength. A weak frame/liner lock could open. I had a clipped griptilian open when push mowing. Most any lock could open. Backlock designs seem to be good in this regard.

The BIG problem of keys with knife is dulling!!!!!!!!!! I got my zt0452 and sharpened it up where I could split my hair four or five times. I was super excited to used that baby. It went in the pocket with some keys. It was the first OPEN BACK design that I had mixed with keys. After a full eight hour day, the edge was DEVASTATED. I was devastated. The keys rolled the edge in hundreds of places. It was easy to fix because the damage wasn't deep. I also have had coins wedge between blade and scale locking the knife closed. It took me a few failed flips to see the penny lodged in there. Bad deal if you really needed it open quickly.

Rambling on... I had another freshly sharpened knife, my large lefty 21, damaged in pocket. It was in my back pocket, not the normal spot. I forgot and put keys in that pocket. After only an hour, damage was done. Again, easy enough to fix... but damn it. USE A CLOSED BACK DESIGN IF YOU WANT TO CARRY WITH KEYS OR COINS!
 
Do yourself a favor and try horizontal belt carry



I hate even change in my pockets let alone a large folder and keys all in the same one

Money clip in right front

Small card wallet in front left

Gun on right side belt

Knife in horizontal sheath on belt in front of left hip
 
JParanee said:
Do yourself a favor and try horizontal belt carry



I hate even change in my pockets let alone a large folder and keys all in the same one

Money clip in right front

Small card wallet in front left

Gun on right side belt

Knife in horizontal sheath on belt in front of left hip
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A Ballistic Nylon case like this only costs a couple of bucks. I carry my EDC in a ballistic nylon case attached vertically to my belt. No one has ever commented about it It is much easier when carrying a knife, especially a larger one, than a pocket carry, and I don't need to worry about the clip detaching or sticking out of my pocket.
 
BlueBonnet said:
I would like to purchase my first flipper (a ZT). However, I MUST carry in pocket without any clip showing. This will be the same pocket which I carry my keys.
I understand that this is not ideal, and greatly slows deployment (I’m used to it), but my only concern is...how likely is it that the flipper would snag on the keys and deploy the blade?
I currently carry a Manix II in said pocket and it does fine. I guess I’m more concerned about deploying the ZT when pulling out my keys.
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Not as high as the chance keys will get into the knife if it has an open standoff design and dull the edge.
 
GatorFlash1 said:
A Ballistic Nylon case like this only costs a couple of bucks. I carry my EDC in a ballistic nylon case attached vertically to my belt. No one has ever commented about it It is much easier when carrying a knife, especially a larger one, than a pocket carry, and I don't need to worry about the clip detaching or sticking out of my pocket.
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Finally some one gets it

Thank you

I also get custom horizontal leather scabbards made





 
JParanee said:
Finally some one gets it

Thank you

I also get custom horizontal leather scabbards made





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Is that a John Gray in the lower sheath? Yours?

Nice sheaths. I had a couple horizonal carry sheaths made by a guy here on BF for some OTF's, they work great.
 
jceckrosh said:
Is that a John Gray in the lower sheath? Yours?

Nice sheaths. I had a couple horizonal carry sheaths made by a guy here on BF for some OTF's, they work great.
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Yes its actually a pimped out Kizer he did for me

Johns a friend and was just here a week ago for dinner



We might be doing a little Wharncliffe project together

 
JParanee said:
Yes its actually a pimped out Kizer he did for me

Johns a friend and was just here a week ago for dinner



We might be doing a little Wharncliffe project together

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Cool. Looked like the GPB.

You wouldn't consider a GPB an overbuilt frame lock? (I'm giving you a little bit of a hard time here)
 
jceckrosh said:
Cool. Looked like the GPB.

You wouldn't consider a GPB an overbuilt frame lock? (I'm giving you a little bit of a hard time here)
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It is but I didn’t pay for it :)

In reality it’s not that overbuilt nothing like some out there

But like I said earlier I don’t buy frame locks but I’ve owned a few hence I would not offer my opinion on them if I had no Expierence with them

I’ve been involved with custom knives almost 4 decades and in that time I’ve had the chance to see and handle most everything

I attend most of the big shows every year and know most of the prominate makers

Like I said I have had a few frame lock knives over the years but I really don’t care for them

My favorite flipper frame lock is Matt Diskin’s Flipper

It is far from over built and it’s frame lock is very difficult to accidentally disengage

So if I had to carry one it would be his

Here is the first DISKIN Flipper prototype

I’ll never sell it and I’ve been offered a lot for it but it was a gift from a good friend and I really do love the knife

 
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If you have too much crap in your pants, i would suggest clipping it inside your waistband. If the clip ends up behind the belt, it will remain unseen. Even if you tuck your shirt inside your pants, just blouse it a bit and the knife will disappear. I carry that way, sligthly slanted, and I can even sit down comfortably at the office. Try it out!
 
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