Carrying while in the Military?

Take heed of the sensible ones. You will not need a blade in basic training or tech school. When you get to your first assignment, carry what your peers are carrying. They will already know the deal. Unless you get asigned to a remote site with very few people, all you will be allowed to carry is a simple pocket folder, maybe with a clip, depending on if you wear BDU's or blues. If you go into a base defense mode, you will be able to hang a fixed blade on your LBE. That is the general rules for the regular Air Force. If you get into a Special Operations unit, the rules will be a bit more liberal.

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Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.
 
Most important thing is to check base regs. Also, you can check area regs (Bn and Regimental Orders). If you're near the "flagpole," it's one thing. If you're where the realwork gets done, it's another.

I can tell you that in some areas, carrying a Ka-Bar just about anywhere is just fine - even seen 'em hanging from web belts in the chow hall, partially obscured by the utility blouse. And so long as you look like you've just been training or are headed to training, no MPs should bother you unless they are really looking for something to do. I wouldn't suggest pulling it out and cutting your roast beast with it though.

In my outfit, I'd say 3/4 of the grunts carry a 6"-plus fixed blade every time we're in the field. Never seen one get hassled, and the CC has never made a comment.

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Proverbs 25:16 - "If you find honey, eat just enough. Too much of it and you will vomit."
 
first of all to beat the last breath out of the horse, no tools until first unit. the risk of killing a new carrer outweighs the handiness in basic.

as a US Coast Guard C-130 navigator, you could pack pretty much whatever you wanted in your flight bag under the guise of survival gear, big fixed blades included. on your person, big spidie clipits like militaries or police models were about the biggest normaly seen. (of course this all depends upon command, i heard too many stories of firearms going as "survival gear" in kodiak for it not to have been true.) some commands even banned leatherman type tools near aircraft fearing a FOD hazzard.

think a bit how you want to be labled at your new unit, do you want to be THE knife guy? maby an endura would be enough... anyway....


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'Till next time,
Rich the kite guy
 
1945 and Now (Why the US doesn't win wars any more)

1945 - Rifles were made of wood and steel, shot a .30
caliber bullet and killed the enemy.
Now - Rifles are made of plastic and aluminum, shoot a
.22 caliber bullet, and wound the enemy.

1945 - The winning side used a US made .45 Caliber
pistol; the losers used a European 9mm.
Now - We use a European 9mm pistol. Nobody uses the
.45.

1945 - If you smoked, you had an ashtray on your desk.
Now - If you smoke, you are sent outside and are
treated like a leper.

1945 - If you said "damn", people knew you were
annoyed and avoided you.
Now - If you say "damn" you better be talking about a
hydroelectric plant.

1945 - NCO's had a typewriter on their desks for doing
daily reports.
Now - Everyone has an internet computer, and they
wonder why no work is getting done.

1945 - We painted pictures of pretty girls on
airplanes to remind us of home.
Now - We put the real thing in the cockpit.

1945 - Your girlfriend was at home, praying you would
return alive.
Now - She is in the same foxhole, praying your condom
worked.

1945 - If you got drunk off duty, your buddies would
take you back to the barracks to sleep it off.
Now - If you get drunk any time they slap you in rehab
and ruin your whole career.

1945 - You were taught to aim at your enemy and shoot
him.
Now - You spray 500 bullets into the brush, don't hit
anything, and retreat because you are out of ammo.

1945 - Canteens were made out of steel. You could heat
coffee or hot chocolate in them.
Now - Canteens are made of plastic. You can't heat
anything in them and they always taste like plastic.

1945 - Officers were professional soldiers first.
They commanded respect.
Now - Officers are politicians first. They beg not to
be given a wedgie.

1945 - They collected enemy intelligence and analyzed
it.
Now - They collect our pee and analyze it.

1945 - If you don't act right, the commander might put
you in the stockade till you straighten up.
Now - If you don't act right, they start a paper trail
that follows you forever.

1945 - Medals were awarded to heroes who saved lives
at the risk of their own.
Now - Medals are awarded to people who show up for
work most of the time.

1945 - You slept in a barracks, like a soldier.
Now - You sleep in a dormitory, like a college kid.

1945 - You ate in a Mess Hall. It was free and you
could have all the food you wanted.
Now - You eat in a dining facility. Every slice of
bread or pat of butter costs, and you can only have
one.

1945 - We defeated powerful countries like Germany and
Japan.
Now - We cant even beat Iraq or Yugoslavia.

1945 - If you wanted to relax, you went to the Rec
Center, played pool, smoked and drank beer.
Now - You go to the Community Center and can still
play pool.

1945 - If you wanted a beer and conversation you could
go to the NCO or Officers Club.
Now - The beer will cost you $1.75, membership is
forced, and someone is watching how much you drink.

1945 - You could buy quartermaster gas tax free
because it was on a military reservation.
Now - AAFES charges you the tax but pockets the money
themselves because it is on a military reservation.

1945 -The BX/PX had bargains for GI's who didn't make
much money.
Now - You can get better merchandise cheaper at Wal
Mart.

1945 - We could recognize the enemy by their Nazi
helmets.
Now - We are wearing the Nazi helmets.

1945 - We called the enemy things like "Krauts" and
"Japs" because we didn't like them.
Now - We call the enemy things like "opposing forces"
and "aggressors" so we don't offend them.

1945 - Victory was declared when the enemy was dead
and all his things were broken.
Now - Victory is declared when the enemy says he is
sorry.

1945 - If you killed an enemy soldier, you could bring
home his rifle as a trophy.
Now - If you bring home anything at all as a trophy
you get a court martial.

1945 - A commander would put his butt on the line to
protect his people.
Now - A commander will put his people on the line to
protect his butt.

1945 - After the war, you could buy your own rifle off
the government, cheap.
Now - You can't be trusted with your own rifle, and
you'll be jailed if you ever get one.

1945 - Wars were planned and run by generals with lots
of important victories.
Now - Wars are planned and run by politicians with
lots of important panty raids.

1945 - We knew we were fighting for freedom. The
country was committed to winning.
Now - We don't know what we are fighting for. The
government is committed to Socialism.

1945 - All you could think of was getting out and
becoming a civilian again.
Now - All you can think of is getting out and becoming
a civilian again.

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"Women bring life into the world
and much death, for they sway the
destinies of men." -Anneas
 
Never had a problem in my unit. Carried a Gerber Tac II til I broke it, and then a Cold Steel SRK. Both were on my LBE, both were constantly used, command never gave a rats ass.

My commander did get a bit pissed off when I had a LBV before anyone else did (and since everyone else was wearing LBE, I was "out of uniform"), but I liked it. Too hot in the tropics though, I quickly learned.

He also wasn't thrilled when I had a HSPR (Harness, Single Point Release) for my ruck 8 months before they were issued, but since they were current issue, and not *exactly* worth fighting over, he didn't make much comment on that one. I think he was more curious to see how it worked, which was damn good indeed.

But knives were never an issue. In fact, if you didn't have a Leatherman or Multiplier, you weren't considered a real Engineer. I still have mine, maybe I'll scan a picture of it....

Spark

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Kevin Jon Schlossberg
SysOp and Administrator for BladeForums.com

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Gentlemen I thank all of you for your gracious replies and information. I had naturally assumed that my blades were out for Basic Training and Tech School and I will certainly check the Regs at my first duty post and act accordingly. I just wanted to get a feel for what others had experienced in the past. Thank you!
 
ChrisJohn,

Truer words were never spoken. Every point hit right on target.
I hate to see where things are going and have gone since I joined in '85. It's a whole new ball game boys and girls.
Peace

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"Worst of all my foes, I fear the enemy within"
*John Wesley*

Romans 10:9-10

"Military" Fans Unite!!

 
William Johnson,,

The 9th I.D. (Flower Patch-G-) is no more? If so, who is at good old Fort Lewis these days?

I had heard that the 10th SF Group was now there, and of course the 2/75th Rangers (my alma mater). But the Ranger battallion is (was?) at the end of the barracks line there at Cherry Hill, and I heard the green beanies were on North Fort. Besides the Chinook battalion that was next to the Rangers, that leaves a whole bunch of barracks that housed the 9th I.D.'s two brigades of grunts.

Who occupied those buildings now?

Steve
 
Defender,

I'm Active Duty Security Forces and have been for the last 17+ years. You can carry just about any folding knife you want while on duty and off, as long as it is legal under state law. I have worked with guys who carry automatic knives while on duty (Benchmade) and never had any kind of problem. Only time I ever had a problem was going into Saudi and only one time, we were told not to bring any knife longer than 4" or we would loose it going through customs. Think that deployment everybody had fixed blades on their web gear
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I carry a Cold Steel tanto on my web gear and a Spyderco or Benchmade cliped in my BDU's. Whenever deployed I always take a Randall #14 (get some interesting comments on this choice) and the issue bayonet. Depending on your Flight Chief's policy you could be able to wear fixed blades on your web gear. I've found though that the folders work better in day to day use and fixed blades are better for field/deployment use. Of course you must also have your folders with you also.

I carried a Buck 110 and a fixed blade on my web gear in Tech school and ABD many many years ago, just do NOT take them to basic as you will loose them and get into trouble.

Ed is right about having weapons in the dorms but if you live in base housing you do NOT need to register your firearms. To keep them in the armory you need to fill out the AF form 1314 and this registers your weapons, but living in base housing they just request not require you to register your weapons. I have never known anybody that has registered their pow's when living in base housing.
 
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