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Thanks for sharing. I thought it was a larger model.
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Case Knives Bone Question
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Dang, that had me stumped for the longest time. Finally realized it's because (I think) we most often see the two blade version known as the Texas Jack (that's the 6232, which was later restyled as the slightly slimmer 62032 -- and I suppose issued as the 63032 also). Beautiful knife.
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Love seeing that knife. Most underappreciated pattern in my opinion!!
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Thanks gentleman. Its my favorite Case. I like the half stops and the size.
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I can see why! I need to find one of these. I really like the 6344, which has the same blade combination (i.e., it has the pen instead of the usual stockman spey) but is slightly smaller than the '32, and also has the same square bolsters. It looks as if the '32 is about the same size as the '18.
Thanks gentleman. Its my favorite Case. I like the half stops and the size.
I do find them similar in size closed length. I had an older 18 but the blades aren't full. So, I grabbed my new one.
I find the 32 to be more of a workhorse though. The clip feels a little longer and has more heft than the Turkish/Californian/Muskrat clip on the 18. Both of these blades are full length, as can be seen by the way the rest in the blade well.
One thing to be careful with on the 32s is I think the 1979 years? They are transition pieces that use the 32 (not the 032) number stamp, but they use the 032 tooling. No half stops on those. I'm sure there are other differences too I'm not privy to.
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Thanks for all the detailed info and pictures! Definitely something I will keep a watch for. Oh. My. Gosh. Looking at this made me remember... I do have a 1977 6232, and a newer 62032 as well as a 6318. I got them all out and I can see exactly what you are talking about. For one thing, I had it backward, the '32 is a bit slimmer than the '032. Also, the '32 is just a bit longer and has half stops. the clip blade on the '32, as you say, is much more robust than the '18. My '32 is darker than yours, but the color is similarly very deep and rich. Mine has very strong springs and the first time I opened it I caught a bit of flesh between the clip blade's tang and the bolster. Ouch!I do find them similar in size closed length. I had an older 18 but the blades aren't full. So, I grabbed my new one.
I find the 32 to be more of a workhorse though. The clip feels a little longer and has more heft than the Turkish/Californian/Muskrat clip on the 18. Both of these blades are full length, as can be seen by the way the rest in the blade well.
One thing to be careful with on the 32s is I think the 1979 years? They are transition pieces that use the 32 (not the 032) number stamp, but they use the 032 tooling. No half stops on those. I'm sure there are other differences too I'm not privy to.
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Of the modern Case bone colors I think the Chestnut (common in the 1990’s and early 2000’s) capture the look of the 1970’s Case Knives the closest (not exact mind you). There is variety in the Chestnut too. More collecting opportunity for you. OH
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By design, the square bolstered 32 and 032 patterns have Clip main blades while the round bolstered 18 pattern has a Turkish Clip main (similar to the blade in a Muskrat). As both are Medium Stockman patterns I think the 32 was designed to be more robust and the 18 designed to be more compact in the pocket. I regularly carry both and can tell the difference when carrying the knife. OH
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Yes, there are differences here that I never noticed or appreciated. As you said, "More collecting opportunity...".
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Having "hijacked" this thread to talk about '32s and '032s, I thought I should contribute to the "color" question. Here is my 1977 6232. Going back to the passages that I quoted from Steve Pfeiffer's book, I would guess there is no intentional reason my 1977 is a different color from the 1976 other than normal variations in the bone and the dyes that were used.
Oh, and one other '32/'032 difference -- this 6232 has a pinned shield.
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Keep in mind that in the 1970’s Case used brown jigged Delrin interchangeably with brown looking jigged bone. The reddish bone is easy to tell apart but some folks have a hard time with the Delrin. Best way is the edge, color of the Delrin will be a solid brown, brown colored bone will be porous looking on the edge. OH
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This 6279 Senator has jigged Delrin handles and the oval surrounding the CASE stamp - they will fool you. OH
Getting back to bone color, my understanding was
My understanding was that until '78, all bone was not marketed with a color. Collectors coined the terms green bone, red bone, brown bone, and chestnut bone. "True" red and green bone should be from 1969 or earlier. Most case tested era are green bone. I believe red bone did not appear until the 40-64 xx era. I believe chestnut bone did not appear until the 70s and it's appearance was brief. In '78, the first marketed bone color released on a peanut; Appaloosa Bone. It was such a success that they opened up a few other lines to appaloosa bone and introduced a new satin rose. By the mid 80s, most knives were delrin. By the 90s, case started reintroducing bone, all of which had marketing names; the ones we are familiar with today.
Here is my best attempt at a display of pre-marketing bone color leading up to the first marketed bone color; Appaloosa Bone. One is true green bone, the other (in my mind) is red (but not true red) bone, then brown bone, and appaloosa bone.
I say my 32 is red bone but not true red bone due to the era (post-1969). This seems to be a self imposed rule by collectors. But, it also does not appear to be chestnut as collectors often define this as "more of a brown color and often have light tan to yellow accents in the bone, particularly around the edges".
I was just taking pictures to get "back to bone color"Having "hijacked" this thread to talk about '32s and '032s, I thought I should contribute to the "color" question. Here is my 1977 6232. Going back to the passages that I quoted from Steve Pfeiffer's book, I would guess there is no intentional reason my 1977 is a different color from the 1976 other than normal variations in the bone and the dyes that were used.
Oh, and one other '32/'032 difference -- this 6232 has a pinned shield.
My understanding was that until '78, all bone was not marketed with a color. Collectors coined the terms green bone, red bone, brown bone, and chestnut bone. "True" red and green bone should be from 1969 or earlier. Most case tested era are green bone. I believe red bone did not appear until the 40-64 xx era. I believe chestnut bone did not appear until the 70s and it's appearance was brief. In '78, the first marketed bone color released on a peanut; Appaloosa Bone. It was such a success that they opened up a few other lines to appaloosa bone and introduced a new satin rose. By the mid 80s, most knives were delrin. By the 90s, case started reintroducing bone, all of which had marketing names; the ones we are familiar with today.
Here is my best attempt at a display of pre-marketing bone color leading up to the first marketed bone color; Appaloosa Bone. One is true green bone, the other (in my mind) is red (but not true red) bone, then brown bone, and appaloosa bone.
I say my 32 is red bone but not true red bone due to the era (post-1969). This seems to be a self imposed rule by collectors. But, it also does not appear to be chestnut as collectors often define this as "more of a brown color and often have light tan to yellow accents in the bone, particularly around the edges".
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That's a good point and a valuable piece of this information for this discussion. Yes, Delrin will be a uniform brown, while bone has a depth and richness to the color, possibly with noticeable variations from one part of the covers to another. Here are two 1977s, an equal end jack in Delrin on top and my 6232 jack in bone on the bottom.
I believe there is also some rule that most early bone has the circle around case in the oval shield whereas most early delrin does not.That's a good point and a valuable piece of this information for this discussion. Yes, Delrin will be a uniform brown, while bone has a depth and richness to the color, possibly with noticeable variations from one part of the covers to another. Here are two 1977s, an equal end jack in Delrin on top and my 6232 jack in bone on the bottom.
Edit: seems like this might've been true from approximately '74-'85.
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Yes! And then at some point they swapped this and now the synthetics have the circle.
