I'd have to disagree, Between my 303 Buck, and 6.5318 CV Case I'd say the buck is hands down a more solid knife, Between the 303, and YHCV Soddy Jr. I'd say they were even.
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I'd have to disagree, Between my 303 Buck, and 6.5318 CV Case I'd say the buck is hands down a more solid knife, Between the 303, and YHCV Soddy Jr. I'd say they were even.
How do you base this? Do you have some test? Would you describe it?
Based on my experience with Buck slips the 303 has thicker blades and overall coarser construction than most Case models. I think in particular the rounded bolsters and slim frame of an '18 stockman would lead many to conclude that it is a less robust knife. Is it? I rather doubt it.
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well, they are both excellent high quality knives and if the user is good to either knife, the knife will be here long after the user of either
well, they are both excellent high quality knives and if the user is good to either knife, the knife will be here long after the user of either
I agree they're both nice knives, however for real world use which is better. I know CV is brittle so you have to be careful not to hit bone. Anything else I should know about?
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There have been an awful lot of animals worked over with carbon steel blades.
The biggest drawback for some people is the fact that the blade steel will develop patina (the blade changes color).
I would say that most folks like the change. Some even cherish it, and will speed the process up on their own.
I would buy one and try it, and develop your own opinions about what it will and won't do.
Actually that is my test. I take 2 groundhogs and take the meat off the spine. The newer CV will nick, I can cut into the hipbone and not worry about the Buck. It's simple really do with them what you know you'd NEVER do in real life and see what holds up better. My experience is the Buck hands down.
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With respect intended, I think....that is more of a hacking test isn't it? I think folks know most production knives will chip if used to hack into bone. My friend chipped the blades of my 440 stainless Uncle Henry 227UH (a much heavier knife)while dressing out a deer. I had used the knife properly to cut thru brisket of several deer and was shocked to see what he had done to both blades of my folding hunter... nicked like it was dang near serrated as he chopped thru bone.... I did regain most of the blades back to normal, but he had still abused my knife by hacking. When you mention boning a groundhog spine, a much smaller animal, I wonder what there is in the small spine of a ground hog that needs hacking? Use a hatchet or saw, pocketknives are for cutting. Cutting does not create nicks and chips.
Embeth, the case knife you bought is as much a working knife as the buck. Both will shave you, both will gut small game or even deer if you give proper sharpening practice and oil it once in awhile it will go with you a lifetime. I encourage you to try to get a Buck as well so you are well healed!
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Well, Here you go. The Case is equal to a Buck, the differences between the two would require a test bench to know.
If I remember right you have said in past you like a large stockman like the 307. That particular Case might be a little slimmer but will hold its own with the bigger knife. Maybe its just your hand feel.
Everyone above is right. A classic yellow Case or a black sawcut Buck, unless your cutting hay bale wire all day, either knife will do the job.
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If I remember right you have said in past you like a large stockman like the 307. That particular Case might be a little slimmer but will hold its own with the bigger knife. Maybe its just your hand feel.
Everyone above is right. A classic yellow Case or a black sawcut Buck, unless your cutting hay bale wire all day, either knife will do the job.
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( Some of my best friends carry Case knives......and I still let them ride in the boat)[/QUOTE]
...this is good will:thumbup:
( Some of my best friends carry Case knives......and I still let them ride in the boat)[/QUOTE]
...this is good will:thumbup:
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Some of my best friends carry Buck knives ..... and I still let them ride in the truck.
(Sorry 300Bucks - that was a cheap shot, but I couldn't resist)!
Some of my best friends carry Buck knives ..... and I still let them ride in the truck.
(Sorry 300Bucks - that was a cheap shot, but I couldn't resist)!
Yeah, but do they have to get in the back?
Sorry, couldn't pass up that opening.
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Yeah, but do they have to get in the back?
Sorry, couldn't pass up that opening.
Rumor has it that you might be carrying a Buck yourself these days, Carl! You get front-and-center or window seat - whatever you want!
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I'll always have a soft spot for Buck, it was my main knife from 1967 to about the mid '90's. Of late I've been toting around a small Buck lockblade as it's easy to open. My problem is I love them all; Opinels, Buck's, Heck I even have an old Mercator K55 around that I use now and then.
Us old crips use what we can.
Us old crips use what we can.
With respect intended, I think....that is more of a hacking test isn't it? I think folks know most production knives will chip if used to hack into bone. My friend chipped the blades of my 440 stainless Uncle Henry 227UH (a much heavier knife)while dressing out a deer. I had used the knife properly to cut thru brisket of several deer and was shocked to see what he had done to both blades of my folding hunter... nicked like it was dang near serrated as he chopped thru bone.... I did regain most of the blades back to normal, but he had still abused my knife by hacking. When you mention boning a groundhog spine, a much smaller animal, I wonder what there is in the small spine of a ground hog that needs hacking? Use a hatchet or saw, pocketknives are for cutting. Cutting does not create nicks and chips.
Embeth, the case knife you bought is as much a working knife as the buck. Both will shave you, both will gut small game or even deer if you give proper sharpening practice and oil it once in awhile it will go with you a lifetime. I encourage you to try to get a Buck as well so you are well healed!
Well, the thing is I grew up using a Soddy Jr in CV. We'd use our knife for everything from opening mail to butchering cattle. It was when I moved to NE I learned the difference in knives I bought my first buck (a 303) helped a neighbor with butchering, I thought why not? It's got 3 blades, unbelievable, while I can't strop it on my palm, with a smooth steel it just worked.
If I didn't take my Peanut to Iraq with me I would have taken my 303 (in all honesty I should have).
Rainbowish? It is now!.
Seriously though glad you got the chance to really try them out.