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Cases where you wish you could use your knife?
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I'm more concerned about someone referring to the public as "sheep" rather than someone playing with a "tactical" knife
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I have only had one person react negatively to my knife, I was cutting an apple with a traditional slipjoint and she said "Whoa, whoa, kind of making me nervous me there," and I laughed because I was clearly just cutting an apple and minding my own business.
But I have been nervous when I have seen others clearly looking for attention by whipping out and wrist flicking their knives open in public, mall-ninja style. Makes knives look bad...
So, sorry you felt you couldn't use your knife. I will always use mine if I am allowed to have it. I figure if there is no obvious showmanship going on, then anyone that wants to feel overly-sensitive is free to feel that way, but I definitely give no reason for them to.
But I have been nervous when I have seen others clearly looking for attention by whipping out and wrist flicking their knives open in public, mall-ninja style. Makes knives look bad...
So, sorry you felt you couldn't use your knife. I will always use mine if I am allowed to have it. I figure if there is no obvious showmanship going on, then anyone that wants to feel overly-sensitive is free to feel that way, but I definitely give no reason for them to.
If one is hesitant to use their knife, in my opinion, the problem isn't with the "sheeple."
The problem is with:
1) The users behavior. killgar nailed it:
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2) The users knife. This 3.75 recurve tactical blade is your CRKT Buy Tighe ...the high end knife you went all out on as your third knife, I take it?
To me, and this is purely a matter of taste...if one carries a knife that screams "Look at me and my knife!" (especially while using it to open a banana in a college cafeteria already full of cutlery more than capable of opening a banana)...then you cant get bent outta shape if people look at you and your knife.
All my opinion of course, but you asked.
And no, there has never been a situation where I needed to use a knife to cut something and couldn't.
Of course there are situations where I want to do some things...play with a knife, scratch myself, fart, sleep all day, etc, and just cant. That's how life works.
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If it is legal for me to carry a knife I carry what is legal and have no problem using it no matter what anyone thinks. If there is a problem with using your legal knife legally that problem is with you.
I volunteer regularly in my daughters school. It is illegal to carry a knife at school. I can't tell you how many packages I have seen other PTA members struggle to open with keys or pens. I carry a bladeless MT with scissors on my belt those days. It comes in handy a lot. Other people are very appreciative of it as well. I used it one year during a festival to fix an apple peel away machine.
I volunteer regularly in my daughters school. It is illegal to carry a knife at school. I can't tell you how many packages I have seen other PTA members struggle to open with keys or pens. I carry a bladeless MT with scissors on my belt those days. It comes in handy a lot. Other people are very appreciative of it as well. I used it one year during a festival to fix an apple peel away machine.
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If this is a college it is likely against the rules for you to have that knife on campus. Look into your schools rules and your state/city laws. Know them and then you don't have to worry about what any of your "sheeple" think.
One of the things about these "sheeple" discussions that always amuses me is peoples' misinterpretation of the "sheeples'" reaction.
So often the story seems to go "Well, I whipped my 6 inch bladed XXL XTreme Penetrator out of my pants at Applebees to cut a thread off my sweater, and the sheeple stared at me in a mix of disgust and terror! My grandmama hung and shook her head. The teenaged girls at the next table giggled, which I understand is a common reaction to abject terror. What's wrong with them?!?"
I was talking to a guy once, and to make a little cut on something, he pulled out his large one-handed knife, whipped it open with a loud, clicky flourish (with a big wrist flick) and made the little cut. He then reversed the action, again in a showy manner like a western movie gunfighter returning his pistol into its holster. Some nearby people glanced over warily. I quietly mentioned to him that it might not be a great idea to flourish his knife like that in public. His response (spoken loudly) was, "I don't give a _____ what anybody thinks! I'll open and use my knife however the hell I want! If someone has a problem with it, they can go _____ off!"
In reality, it's people like that, that are a far greater potential threat to a general acceptance of knife carry than any "sheeple". It's a type of misplaced, self-centered "rebellious" attitude, a desire to feel important without caring how one's stupid actions can negatively affect others' rights (knife carriers) or others' viewpoints (non-knife carriers).
Jim
In reality, it's people like that, that are a far greater potential threat to a general acceptance of knife carry than any "sheeple". It's a type of misplaced, self-centered "rebellious" attitude, a desire to feel important without caring how one's stupid actions can negatively affect others' rights (knife carriers) or others' viewpoints (non-knife carriers).
Jim
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Again, if it is not illegal or against the rules of where you are in someway, do what you want. But when you do get reactions like the ones you have mentioned, don't get upset and/or complain. If you can't handle it or if it bothers you the reactions you get, don't do it. Simple.
I carry multiple knives for a reason. Am I going to whip out my large, IWB, backup to my gun, Spartan Nyx fixed blade to cut an apple? No sooner than I would pull out my glock to cut a piece of pie. I carry those items for specific very unlikely events. And neither one gets "deployed" for fun and they don't go to places where it is against the law. I'll use a smaller knife or my MT for most normal cutting tasks. The glock has horrible edge geometry any way. Right tool for the right job. Again, simple.
A lot of reaction to using and carrying a knife in public is how you act and carry yourself. I'm not the cleanest cut looking guy but I am polite, speak well using proper English, and I look people in the eye while talking. Multiple conversations with police, park rangers, and conservation officers and nothing gets said about the Esee 6, or Bravo 2, or RMD on my belt. I've gotten into several good conversations with complete strangers at restaurants when I'm using my Large 21, or my Busse Active Duty, or my Bradford G3, or my 550 to cut a nice filet. One guy even showed me the 915 Triage he carries and his wife whipped out a mini grip. Act like a foolish kid and you will get treated like one, knife or not.
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Large knife. Quick to anger. Not likely "rebellion." Guy doesn't happen to drive a really big truck, does he?
I do agree that action like that reflects negatively on all of us. But I honestly think it doesn't make people think we are all stab happy psycho killers....it makes people think we are all angry guys compelled to own oversized knives and huge trucks if you get my drift.
I'm no psychologist, though.
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Then again, if you are a law abiding citizen, using a reasonable and legal tool in a responsible way in a place where it is legal and within the rules to use such a knife and folks still get upset? Then they can take a hike.
I don't understand the rampant aversion to people seeing that you carry a useful tool. Why even carry a knife if you're so afraid someone might see it that you never actually cut something? And if someone sees you (gasp!) cutting something and has a problem with it, who cares? That's their problem.
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Why thank someone during a business transaction? You paid them to do it, if they want gratitude that's their problem. Why hold the door open for someone behind you? If they want to get in a little faster, that's their problem.
I cut what I need to cut, but I am also courteous and aware of my surroundings.
Just saying that one can't go through life always catering to other people and worrying about what the ignorant masses think. So I have a pocket knife and drive a gas guzzling 4x4 and eat red meat. There will always be people that are offended by what used to be the norm. I don't give a crud what those kind of people think, neither should anyone else. The wussification of the American male is NOT something to be proud of.
Every man who has consideration for others or for his environment isn't a 'wuss'. The fact is, people tend to generalize, and if someone feels the need to make a show of whipping open his knife in a public space, many will view all knife carriers as 'reckless', 'obnoxious', 'unstable', 'dangerous', etc., even if there was no bad intent. And since most people don't carry a knife, 'they' are the majority, and the majority votes. You may not care, but someone else might care enough to push for tougher legislation. So one can do whatever one wants, wherever one wants and not care what anyone thinks. But don't turn around and wonder why so many people have or develop a negative view of carrying knives.
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Funny though...back in the day...when American males were not, as you say, "wussified," those males didn't need comically oversized trucks or giant tactitawesome knives, or bad manners to show what kinda men they were, did they?
Trust me, they would shake their heads an laugh at any folder larger than a stockman.