CaseXX knives Quality . good in the 2000s?

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Good day Case Knife friends,

I have bought a few of the newer (2010 and up) CaseXX knives and imo the quality is awesome. I know people love the 70s and below years quite well but these newer knives are great. Whats everyones thoughts on this?

also, What would you say the most popular CaseXX model would be? The Peanut?
 
In the last few years I've added a Slimline Trapper, Trapperlock, and Sway Back Gent to my Case collection. The only disappointment was the centering on the Gent,
but it's not bad enough to return. I have several examples from the '70's and the newer offerings are certainly comparable; the Trapperlock in Hunter Green Bone is
probably the sharpest and most well made Case I have. Got my first Peanut on the way...can't wait.
 
I've owned dozens of newer Case knives, and the quality has been very good to excellent on all of them, especially considering their moderate price point.
 
The only generation(s) of knives from Case, that I tended to avoid, were some (not all) of knives produced in the '90s, and maybe some from mid-late '80s or so. Even then, the few issues I had with them, like rather bluntish edge grinds, were fixable and not necessarily fatal flaws. I only avoided them, because I wasn't nearly as comfortable in my sharpening abilities at the time. I also wasn't real fond of the slightly blockish-looking 'oval' shields on the '90s knives, but that's purely a subjective thing, purely aesthetics. Otherwise, fit & finish, durability and any other aesthetics seemed commensurate with knives that came later.

Post-2000 knives from Case noticeably improved in edge grinds, with great acute slicing profiles on them. All other attributes seemed at least as good, if not better than the '80s/'90s knives.


David
 
Please elaborate?

I think that was in the post-Jim Parker era (he previously owned Case for a while in late '80s thru most of the '90s). He'd made a lot of questionable decisions in running the company (that's a whole other can-o-worms). Zippo bought the company later, and they're still the owner of record. Many things have improved since then.


David
 
I think that was in the post-Jim Parker era (he previously owned Case for a while in late '80s thru most of the '90s). He'd made a lot of questionable decisions in running the company (that's a whole other can-o-worms). Zippo bought the company later, and they're still the owner of record. Many things have improved since then.


David

Thanks for the reply.
I have read up on the Jim Parker story. Interesting story.
 
I have collected peanuts since the 1980s and in certain eras the quality differed unless they had stag scales and IMO they never fudged on stag scales, my early tested pearls seem to not be as well assembled possibly due to the brittle nature of MOP. I don't carry peanuts preferring to use my Kershaw random task for um well random tasks. I know some folk do carry a peanut but from this mechanics point of view they were not suitable for my work requirements at the time.
 
I just wrote a few paragraphs about this in a series I am doing for my customers. Had it linked from here but that seemed to raise questions about my intentions, so just moved pertinent parts without formatting.
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Ever since Case Cutlery figured out there was a huge collector market in the 1970's, they have tuned their brand to not only be a good using knife but THE collectible brand as well. Case has changed hands several times in the last three decades and has had ups and downs, not only in finances, but in quality.

The early 1980's (circa 1980 - 1987) saw a large push to lower the cost in the production of the Case pocket knives. With that, we got "new grind" and noticeable decreases in quality. Knives from this era are not junk, but you will see looser fitting blades, open backsprings, lower end slabs, etc. For example, this is the point in time that second cut stag was used extensively.

The late 1980's brought in the Parker era, wherein Jim Parker leveraged his assets and bought W.R. Case Cutlery Company. Jim went to work trying to solve the financial problems by flooding the market with variations and collector sets. The Case Centennial Set was a 100 knife set in a folder that featured red bone, stag, and goldstone composite. There were also a lot of overruns in most patterns that showed up without the etchings or just outside the set itself. For the most part these knives were nice and Jim used some tooling (if not externally made altogether) to add some patterns to the catalog. The goldstone would go on to curl badly on many of the examples. But the new (Parker Cutlery) patterns were only found during the short time Jim owned Case. He went into bankruptcy after owning them a short time.

The early 1990's shuffled in a renewed attempt to bring the Case XX brand back to a quality and affordable platform. They eliminated the dot dating system (which was re-instated within 3-4 years) and tried a few other changes. But, other than a marked increase in quality, they went back to the build that made Case famous. Meanwhile Jim Parker is taking bids on a huge special run of knives he will have made utilizing Case family trademarks he retained after the sale of the company. Thus, the Case Classics were born and produced in the tens of thousands, most of 1095 and mostly produced by Queen Cutlery via Bluegrass Cutlery contracts. Case Cutlery actually produced only a handful of the patterns made in the Case Classics program (seems like the 88 Congress, the 94 Gunboat, and the saddlehorn).

In 1995 Case started the Limited Edition series. This series continues today, but has grown from a per pattern production of (I think) 1000pcs to now 3000pcs. It has always seemed funny to me that the "Limited Edition Series" was one of their highest count productions. Nonetheless, the Ltd Edition started with a large following, and must still have a lot of fans today or it would have been discontinued. I don't pay much attention to what is etched on the blades, just keep looking for value in the pattern itself. When you see the knives that wholesalers have to put on clearance, it is usually those with some famous person lasered on the blade. Which means if nobody wants them today, they probably will have little trouble finding them in 10 years.

In the early 2000's we saw a new downturn in Case Cutlery quality. I don't know the reason, but may be related to the economy and financial situations. But, the blades width got shrunk on many models (congress and gunstock come to mind) and the blade edge grind went for several years looking like it was done with a stone grinder. Very high cuts and crooked lines on most patterns. On the poor little tiny toothpicks, it about eat up the whole blade. Backsprings seemed to open up a bit and slab gaps as well as blade play seemed to get much more lax.

The mid 2000's seemed to find another conscious effort to restore the quality that made the W.R. Case name famous. New patterns have started coming out at what seems to be a higher price point. Older patterns have had price increases, but the big jumps seem to be in new patterns that come on the market at 30-40% premiums to knives that look to have similar production costs. But, especially since the 2007+ timeframe, the quality on a pattern by pattern basis seems really consistent. The backsprings have closed up, the blades tightened, and the grinds corrected. They are not perfect, but they are about as good as they have ever been for Case.

Today Case Cutlery is making a very nice knife at one of the best values in the country. We look at each offering closely and work very hard to present what we believe to be the top mix of price / value in the lineup.

Issues that are common with Case knives:

They don't spend time trying to get water-tight backsprings, thus don't let small gaps surprise you.
The blades are tumble polished; thus they look great but are rounded on the corners.
Blade play is minimal, but does exist in some patterns.
Backsprings are sufficient, but seldom lend to a gator snap. Dried oil needs to be cleaned out many times.
Pin cracks are uncommon, but not as rare as most other American brands.
Shields are glued, thus they do come out from time to time. Superglu is your friend.
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I think they are great, sometimes you might get one with discrepancies, but that's the name of high volume mid tier production.
I'm thinking the most popular models are medium stockman's and the trapper. The peanut is very popular to folks on this forum, myself included, but doesn't come close to the popularity of a stockman or trapper.
 
Knifeswapper, as a major Great Eastern dealer your not really unbiased concerning Case. I took your teaser and read your article. Good way to drag a site visit out of me rather than post your opinion here. My first thought was unlike you, I've had no problem with my 21st centurty case knives. My second thought was why isn't your first article about your favorite brand...Great Eastern?

Case is an easy whipping boy for a lot of internet pundits, particularly the great eastern crowd, but Ive bought about one Case a year and have been satisfied.
 
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I've got a decent sampling of Case pocketknives from the 1970's forward (just a few prior to that time). My blockiest examples (to include mediocre fitting) are from the late 1980's and the early 1990's. I have four patterns from a 1999 blue bone pocketworn set that are excellent knives - everything I own from that point forward I'm quite happy with (I keep on buying them!) I will also second what smokinbasser said about the stag knives from that era - I only have a few, but they are excellent knives as well. OH
 
Bought a lot of CASE knives around 2006-9, some models a little earlier. Generally speaking, quality has been very acceptable not too many gappy ones or ones with play so I can't complain. Of particular merit were the Sway Back Jacks, a Saddlehorn both Bose inspired knives. Oddly enough, the one Collab knife I have, the Norfolk is a disappointment in finish. My most recent knife from CASE is a Humpback Half Whittler from last year: excellent finish, no gaps, no play, no raised springs on open (it even has sunk-joints, something GEC is yet to manage...) fine W&T. My only complaint is that the blades are really too small/narrow for the size of frame. Its relative the Humpback Stockman (also sunk-joints) does this better.

Quality is consistent, price range good, range large. Queen make a prettier much more interesting Traditional but they are, I think, less consistent in quality and can spring some unpleasant surprises (but when Queen is good and they often are, they are fabulous knives). CASE is generally very reliable, I'm a fan of their Slimline Trapper and Medium Stockman knives in particular. Looking forward to the new CASE Teardrop shortly.

Regards, Will
 
I've owned several case knives from several different years. I have a few peanuts from the 91-93 era, when the blades were stamped with the years. Both of my examples from them are tight, wobble free and very few gaps. The grinds were good and the edges hold well. My next Case came in 2008 with a Congress, it has the same attributes as above, except there is some gapping in the springs and liner. Not much, but viewable. Not enough for me to send the knife back. My last Cases have been a 2013 Texas jack, the clip blade has a spring that sits proud I sent to Case to remedy and they did. I also have a 2013 Seahorse whittler which has some blade rub. However, both had no gaps, had better snap than my Congress and my earlier 90s Cases, and overall good fit and finish. Grinds were acceptable for user knives. Great knife for the money, and occasionally you might catch a lemon.
 
Knifeswapper, as a major Great Eastern dealer your not really unbiased concerning Case. I took your teaser and read your article. Good way to drag a site visit out of me rather than post your opinion here. My first thought was unlike you, I've had no problem with my 21st centurty case knives. My second thought was why isn't your first article about your favorite brand...Great Eastern?

Case is an easy whipping boy for a lot of internet pundits, particularly the great eastern crowd, but Ive bought about one Case a year and have been satisfied.


Funny, I read the article too but didn't see it as an indictment of Case, just an honest assessment. Mike was selling Case knives before GE, and still offers quite a selection of both new and old Case knives.
 
Knifeswapper, as a major Great Eastern dealer your not really unbiased concerning Case. I took your teaser and read your article. Good way to drag a site visit out of me rather than post your opinion here. My first thought was unlike you, I've had no problem with my 21st centurty case knives. My second thought was why isn't your first article about your favorite brand...Great Eastern?

Case is an easy whipping boy for a lot of internet pundits, particularly the great eastern crowd, but Ive bought about one Case a year and have been satisfied.

I have seen the pessimistic mention links or external content like this before; there must be a greatly exaggerated expectation of any business gleaned by having a link from a forum. But I have moved the pertinent parts of the article here to eliminate any conspiracy theories.

As stated in the article you were forced to read, I am planning on writing one on each American cutlery company that I have experience. I handle several thousand of each brand a year and have for many years; even before my 2004 business startup.

No company can make a great knife day in and day out for years. There will be downturns in general or lackluster patterns specifically in every portfilio. As noted, just my opinion, and I assure you no more positive or negative than any other brand deserves.
 
I found the review by knifeswapper refreshingly objective, and seeing as I had to get side tracked to his web store to read it, it gave me the opportunity to look for a couple of illusive Case knives, which he had, or will have soon, at a decent price. Had to mark the site as a favorite so I can keep checking to see if they arrive, and hopefully the price remains as advertised. I have always liked Case, and believe they are the best made and best value of any product that can truly say made in the USA.
 
Mike, I went back and read your article - what you wrote tracks with what I have observed within my own (growing) collection of Case Knives (which, along with Buck and USA Schrade, are my favorite brands). OH
 
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