CBK or Safe Keeper

[bsjoelbs]

What "bad things" have you heard?

It can't take or keep an edge, and it is more flexible than steel.

 

[Esav Benyamin]

Of course not. That's not their purpose. They're covert throwaways, use it and lose it, light weight self defense items.

Some of the plastic knives can be utility items also. A CAT tanto can work as a picnic knife, spreading butter and cutting sandwiches, without having a sharp edge that the kids could cut themselves on. I use the dart, speared into a cob of corn, to keep from burning my fingers.

It's just the lowest end of the spectrum from expensive supersteel customs down through AUS-6 and 420J2 blades. Very specialized, toy factor ... I prefer plastic impact weapons to stabbers, myself.

 

[bsjoelbs]

I prefer plastic impact weapons to stabbers, myself.

That's why I have my clear Stinger.

 

[Knifeclerk]

I BELIEVE they also use the same sheath for all of the different safekeeper models (1-3) regardless of the length of blade.
Overlord in Colorado

This is incorrect.

 

[OGRE 4569]

I have a safekeeper 2, and it is very lightweight, and easy to conceal. The concealex sheath is very secure. I also believe bigger is better for self defense. I wouldn't want a to go up against someone with a mini pal, unless they needed me to open a letter for them.

 

[Esav Benyamin]

That's why I have my clear Stinger.

I ALWAYS carry my Stinger (black), but I've got a clear one with a glowring attached so I can find it in the dark

 

[bsjoelbs]

I decided to buy the Safe Keeper II, and I got it yesturday. It's a very cool knife, but the sheath is a little tight.

How can you take it out of the sheath while it is clipped to your pants? When ever I try to draw it I end up with the sheath in my hand.

 

[Will P.]

Kydex and concealex sheaths are supposed to be tight. Grip the knife with your fingers and push the sheath with your thumb - the knife should pop right out. It take a bit of getting used to, but a tight sheath is critical for inverted carry.

 

[Overlord]

I just got the new plastic Safe Keepers. They come without a sheath, but the handle is pierced with a keyring. They're very light, VERY inexpensive. It's a step up from a practice blade, but not really sharp. Think letter opener sharp.

Overlord in Colorado

 

[bsjoelbs]

Kydex and concealex sheaths are supposed to be tight. Grip the knife with your fingers and push the sheath with your thumb - the knife should pop right out. It take a bit of getting used to, but a tight sheath is critical for inverted carry.

Thanks that works a lot better than using two hands.

And about the new plastic push dagger, have you tried to sharpen it yet?

 

[Andre]

The CBK is the newish BM push dagger, right? I f that is the case then I checked one out and I didn't think it felt as good in the hand as the Safekeeper. I have the smaller number 3 model which is very secure in the hand. I didn't like the longer no. 2 cause teh extra length gives it a wobbly feeling in my hand. That's my 5c

 

[jbutera]

I carried a safekeeper 2 for a while in an inside pocket. Comfortable, easy to get to, and the sight of me drawing it got me out of trouble with three jackasses one night. Oh by the way..........I don't carry it any longer because of the legalityies. Double edge - Leo = jail for sure. Your not going to open boxes with a double edged blade!

 

[Overlord]

The CBK is the newish BM push dagger, right? I f that is the case then I checked one out and I didn't think it felt as good in the hand as the Safekeeper. I have the smaller number 3 model which is very secure in the hand. I didn't like the longer no. 2 cause teh extra length gives it a wobbly feeling in my hand. That's my 5c

The CBK is MUCH better after a good wrap. I tried full 550 paracord, 550 paracord without the core, and cheep flat nylon cord, and currently have it wrapped in the coreless paracord. I think a dip into a rubber compound (someone mentioned Rusolum Grip Dip or something elsewehre) might work well too. Basicly, it just needed a bit more bulk. Without anything, it seems shaped poorly and I agree didn't feel good in the hand.

Overlord in Colorado

 

[dalefuller]

Well, if you're interested in getting a palm dagger (same thing) for carry instead of collection, you're obviously not worried about the legalities of carrying it. I second the importance of the sheath. So:

1) Find one that fits your hand well and that you're comfortable using
2) Find a *trustworthy* (read "close-mouthed" here) leather shop that does more than wallets and belts, explain what you have, and get them to put together one or two sheaths that you can use for different carry locations.

An inside coat pocket is good if you're going to keep the coat on or nearby. The ankles are good if you're more interested in stealth than speed. I have two CS palm daggers. The larger one lives in an ankle sheath that disappears entirely inside thick athletic socks. The sheath is just deep enough so that the "T" at the top of the handle is slightly above the top of my sock (about 1/4"). I also had a shoulder holster made for it that carries it inverted and secures it with a thumb-break. Reach in, curl your fingers around the knife handle, and your thumb naturally presses against the snap on the strap. A little thumb pressure and the snap separates and the knife falls right out into your hand. Takes about 1 second with practice to get it out.

I also had them make a carry case for the small palm dagger that looks like a sunglasses case in the event that it has to pass inspection by any nosy gendarmes. Holds sunglasses or a pack of cigarettes just fine. Also hides a little "surprise" in an easy to reach location.

Another possibility is to carry the knife in some other object. For a while, I had a "skeletonized" dagger about 4" long from stem to stern. It was one solid piece of metal with no wrap or handle maerial at all, just the metal. It was very flat, very sharp, and very cheap. A perfect "use it and leave it at the scene" item. It used to get carried inside a modified pocket calendar/organizer and it could be slipped out the top very quickly.

 

[Benjamin Liu]

Your not going to open boxes with a double edged blade!

When I was 12-14 I carried a Valor Wallet Knife, a double-edged pushdagger a little larger than the original CS Urban Pal with a wallet sheath for pocket carry. I used it to open boxes, cut boxes to make things (I made lots of things out of boxes as a kid), cut rope, plastic, etc. and in general used it for just about everything for urban EDC. In the woods I used other knives. The type of heavy cutting that I would put pressue on the back of the blade wasn't something I did with blades that small anyway. That said, my favorite pushdagger is my CS Urban Skinner (now called Safekeeper III.)

 

[ricky b]

benchmade products are much better as far as fit finish and quality. the cbk has 440c heat treated steel and an excellent sheath for not much more money. the cbk has a quality finish too.

 

[RedLynx]

benchmade products are much better as far as fit finish and quality. the cbk has 440c heat treated steel and an excellent sheath for not much more money. the cbk has a quality finish too.

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