you're a mess! Your rabbit-hole attitude aint gonna fly here. I have gutted 3 does with a D-2 of CFK's and still sharp. My eyes are human.Yours? Your persistent questions, without answerering any questions yourself, speaks volumes. I am sorry if I rained on your parade of insulting CFK, but my knife knowledge, and exprerience has taught me a lot about knife-structure, and people whether you, nor anybody else agrees. I came on this post for knowledge, and insight, but it seems the biggest detractors have too big a dog in the fight, to be even-handed. I will repeat an earlier challenge. Can YOU sell me a knife with sheath of at least as good of quality for 60-80 bucks? Until you can, and are willing to. your opinion, is like a butt-hole, we all have one. I respect yours, just wish it was a 2 way street. Too many of these sites sound like women that want to fight, rather than help.