CFK Knives....Any Thoughts or Opinions on These EBay Knives?

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Hey all,

I don't know when I found this brand, but from time to time I go to Ebay and just look for knives and bow stuff. I guess I've been looking at these knives for many months now. I don't think I've read any reviews or owner reports on them. Then again, I haven't went out and searched for them.

These CFK knives do look good, a lot of them do anyway. The prices don't seem to be that bad either. I think they come from Great Britain, but don't hold me to that one.
I have mainly looked at their bigger blades, in the 5 to 7 inch range. I have bid on several, but have never won the auction.

So, I thought I'd come here and ask you guys about them. I know you all can help me on these and either save me from myself (again) or encourage me to get one and enjoy a nice knife.

What can you add about these knives? Are they good knives or should be passed on for other, better made knives? Would you buy one?

Thanks for your time and help.

Nalajr
 
I could be wrong but I would stay away from them. The prices are way to good to be true and I'm pretty sure I've seen similar knives on eBay before under various names and they were all made in Pakistan.
 
I wondered if there were made in Pakistan or China myself. I can't remember right now, I'll go and check, but I thought they list Great Britain as where they are made.


Nalajr
 
I am in possession of one right now, will be doing testing in the field as soon as my [soggy] weather breaks. The "unboxing and first impressions" video is done, just waiting for the weather to let up so I can beat the shit out of it. When I get that, I simply have to splice the video together to put up on YT.

The model I'm testing is this D2 model:

Photo from EBay:

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Testing model in my possession:




My first impressions are that this is a very promising blade - BUT - I cannot say for certain yet because the testing phase has not yet started.

As I understand it, the steel is purchased here in the States, sent to England to have the blades ground, heat treated and are then returned to the States for final finish/assembly.
 
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These knives as described on CFK's website as:

"Our Damascus is forged and treated in England for a combination of hardness without being brittle. The D2 and 1095 High Carbon are sourced in Europe. Craftsmen assemble the final knife with the components on-hand to insure extremely short run knives, each hand made. Each knife is built very well. We are located in Oregon, USA. CFK offers a Lifetime Replacement "

They say nothing about where the blades are ground.They state that the knives are assembled elsewhere and they don't say exactly where. Based on the price and lack of origin on knife, I would say most likely Pakistan. Also interesting is that if you want to buy a knife you are directed to their ebay store. I suggest you read thre feedback over the last 12 months, both the neutral and negatives.
Remarkably, the knives are not sold at a set price like most ebay stores but by bidding, which conceivably could end up higher than you expected, and the shipping costs appear pretty high as well.

Frankly put, while the knives "may" be great, with all the other established knife companies out there I wouldn't touch this brand. Just my opinion.
 
Question: What would be the purpose of that blade portion under the knife name? It seems like it's a waste not to carry the edge all the way back.
 
Question: What would be the purpose of that blade portion under the knife name? It seems like it's a waste not to carry the edge all the way back.

I would say that's one of two factors; either something to make it look more tacticlol for the mall ninjas or that's where the opium wore off and the meth kicked in.
 
So, I thought I'd come here and ask you guys about them. I know you all can help me on these and either save me from myself (again) or encourage me to get one and enjoy a nice knife.

What can you add about these knives? Are they good knives or should be passed on for other, better made knives? Would you buy one?

Thanks for your time and help.

Nalajr

They are crap.

Have you noticed the trend here? You keep asking about these fringe, shady knives. Nothing wrong with that, but, for Scagels sake just get yourself a good knife. People here yammer about great knives in ANY price range constantly. Its not that hard.

Get a Mora. Or get a SAK. Or get a Becker. Or an Opinel. Or a Case. Or a Delica. The list goes on and on and on.

All you gotta do is read. :thumbup:
 
IMO there are loads of reputable knive companies out there, why waste time with the shady eBay knives?
 
They are crap.

Have you noticed the trend here? You keep asking about these fringe, shady knives. Nothing wrong with that, but, for Scagels sake just get yourself a good knife. People here yammer about great knives in ANY price range constantly. Its not that hard.

Get a Mora. Or get a SAK. Or get a Becker. Or an Opinel. Or a Case. Or a Delica. The list goes on and on and on.

All you gotta do is read. :thumbup:

Almost as many started threads as posts (a lot). What is that old adage about reading more and posting less?
 
These knives as described on CFK's website as:

1. "Our Damascus is forged and treated in England for a combination of hardness without being brittle. The D2 and 1095 High Carbon are sourced in Europe. Craftsmen assemble the final knife with the components on-hand to insure extremely short run knives, each hand made. Each knife is built very well. We are located in Oregon, USA. CFK offers a Lifetime Replacement "

2. They say nothing about where the blades are ground.They state that the knives are assembled elsewhere and they don't say exactly where. Based on the price and lack of origin on knife, I would say most likely Pakistan.

3. Also interesting is that if you want to buy a knife you are directed to their ebay store. I suggest you read thre feedback over the last 12 months, both the neutral and negatives.
Remarkably, the knives are not sold at a set price like most ebay stores but by bidding, which conceivably could end up higher than you expected, and the shipping costs appear pretty high as well.

4. Frankly put, while the knives "may" be great, with all the other established knife companies out there I wouldn't touch this brand. Just my opinion.

1. Yep. Oops. ^^ that's what the ebay ads do say. Dunno why I typed sourced in US....probably because I've been looking around at so many websites the past few days, combined with the heat+work....been kind of a miserable week actually...anyway...My mistake and I'll let that be for now.

2. Yes yes...there's lots of conjecture and conspiracy theory because a company won't divulge their sources or locations of source/manufacture. Happens to everyone who creates mystery by keeping their sources anonymous. Let's not forget the "picture proof" someone posted - simply a blade blank on a work bench who someone randomly claimed was in Pakistan. Nevermind there's nothing in the picture to substantiate that claim - no taliban wanna-be's hammering on an anvil, no Kirthar or Himalaya mountains in the background....Hell....could be a picture of someone's garage in Hoboken NJ for all anyone knows.. It's just a picture of a blade, on a table in a dark room with no other hints as to where that is. You couldn't convince a jury of 12 anything BUT that fact....

3. Yup, that's so strange. Ebay and Etsy-only sellers are so untrustworthy that NO ONE ever shops there ::eyeroll:: . How dare someone NOT have a brick and mortar storefront to show off their wares?

As far as "bid war" goes for things, that's nothing new - and is the epitome of what Ebay is all about. If it costs you $50 to produce a knife [like the big one I have here] in limited bulk, let's say 100 blades, it cost you $5000 to produce those 100 knives. 20 sell for $25; 30 sell for $40; 40 sell for $75 and 10 sell for $95, you collected $5650. True that your profit was only $650 [for 100 knives] but it's still profit and this is just an example as I see the practice. Obviously the sale is going to bid higher or lower depending on the consumers....but I've seen their knives bid as low as $9 and as high as $138. He also has quite a few styles to choose from, branching out to the fickle taste of the varied consumer.

Let's not forget these come with the following warranty: [from ebay]

"LIMITED LIFETIME REPLACEMENT GUARANTEE: Our knives are made very well. We guarantee them for life. If you break one of our knife blades or knock the handles apart, contact us, and we will help you pick out a new knife from our current stock to replace the damaged one for free. You must send the Certificate of Authenticity with the knife to receive the free replacement. There is no replacement guarantee on our Seconds or knives sold with defects already mentioned in the auction on eBay."

Let's see....ratings for the past 12 months on EBay...

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...y-company&ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true&rt=nc

overall score 99.9% positive feedback and member since 06 Jan 2006 [9 years]
positive......14974
neutral............14
negative...........9

.......says something about the company though, eh?

New Jersey Steel baron sells D-2 Steel in bulk. I list the following from their website:

A single bar of D2 - tool steel
Thickness....- .250"
width..............2"
Length..............36"
cost..........$118.18


The blade I'm holding is about 13.5" total length, 1.75" wide. From a yard of bar stock, I can get 2 full knives, plus one or 2 smaller knives from that one bar. If I get 4 blanks from that one bar, and they sell for more than $29.54 each, I've made what I spent on the blade steel alone. Knife makers both here on the forums and not, have been doing this for decades.

But if you take another knife maker, on this forum or not, and they stock removal that same piece of steel into a blade like this, heat treat it themselves or send it out...put $20 worth of Micarta or $15 worth of Cocobolo on the handle. They use $35 worth of leather sheath materials and charge you anywhere up to $950 for that blade.

....and that's more acceptable? Why?

The CFK warranty looks to be pretty much the same as any "favorite" knife maker we can find..here or anywhere. What's the problem? IMO, "brand name"...

Nike!..vs..Converse!..vs..New Balance!!...vs Puma!.............it's no different....

4. You are welcome to your opinion and it is obviously shared by others. Brand loyalty, myopia and critical interpretation of words [CS vs. CRKT thread as one example] will always play a part in how someone thinks or feels about something. Doesn't mean they are right or wrong though....it just means they are discriminatory in nature [that can be both good and bad].

Right now I've got the blade in my hand, looking at it with an indifferent point of view. I have to if I'm going to [try to] properly evaluate it. The "got a box in the mail!" giddyness is long gone and now I have to try and example this knife to everyone in a video. I'm reserving judgement until the very end of my test.
 
Let's not forget the "picture proof" someone posted - simply a blade blank on a work bench who someone randomly claimed was in Pakistan. Nevermind there's nothing in the picture to substantiate that claim - ...

Wow. Could you be more offensive about what would substantiate a photo being taken in Pakistan? :thumbdn: :mad:
 
Wow. Could you be more offensive about what would substantiate a photo being taken in Pakistan? :thumbdn: :mad:

I can't help if it offends you that I don't subscribe to a singular picture of a blade blank on a table, in a dark room with NO OTHER indicators as to a definite location as being "proof." It's only a picture of a blade blank on a table. Prove it was in Pakistan.

...and if I recall, it was a "picture by a friend, who......" type of response in that thread. "My sister's cousin's friend had a dog, that....." and "I know a guy who......"

.....I should just take that person's word for it and apologize for my demand? No, no thanks and not in the slightest.
 
1. Yep. Oops. ^^ that's what the ebay ads do say. Dunno why I typed sourced in US....probably because I've been looking around at so many websites the past few days, combined with the heat+work....been kind of a miserable week actually...anyway...My mistake and I'll let that be for now.

2. Yes yes...there's lots of conjecture and conspiracy theory because a company won't divulge their sources or locations of source/manufacture. Happens to everyone who creates mystery by keeping their sources anonymous. Let's not forget the "picture proof" someone posted - simply a blade blank on a work bench who someone randomly claimed was in Pakistan. Nevermind there's nothing in the picture to substantiate that claim - no taliban wanna-be's hammering on an anvil, no Kirthar or Himalaya mountains in the background....Hell....could be a picture of someone's garage in Hoboken NJ for all anyone knows.. It's just a picture of a blade, on a table in a dark room with no other hints as to where that is. You couldn't convince a jury of 12 anything BUT that fact....

3. Yup, that's so strange. Ebay and Etsy-only sellers are so untrustworthy that NO ONE ever shops there ::eyeroll:: . How dare someone NOT have a brick and mortar storefront to show off their wares?

As far as "bid war" goes for things, that's nothing new - and is the epitome of what Ebay is all about. If it costs you $50 to produce a knife [like the big one I have here] in limited bulk, let's say 100 blades, it cost you $5000 to produce those 100 knives. 20 sell for $25; 30 sell for $40; 40 sell for $75 and 10 sell for $95, you collected $5650. True that your profit was only $650 [for 100 knives] but it's still profit and this is just an example as I see the practice. Obviously the sale is going to bid higher or lower depending on the consumers....but I've seen their knives bid as low as $9 and as high as $138. He also has quite a few styles to choose from, branching out to the fickle taste of the varied consumer.

Let's not forget these come with the following warranty: [from ebay]

"LIMITED LIFETIME REPLACEMENT GUARANTEE: Our knives are made very well. We guarantee them for life. If you break one of our knife blades or knock the handles apart, contact us, and we will help you pick out a new knife from our current stock to replace the damaged one for free. You must send the Certificate of Authenticity with the knife to receive the free replacement. There is no replacement guarantee on our Seconds or knives sold with defects already mentioned in the auction on eBay."

Let's see....ratings for the past 12 months on EBay...

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...y-company&ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true&rt=nc

overall score 99.9% positive feedback and member since 06 Jan 2006 [9 years]
positive......14974
neutral............14
negative...........9

.......says something about the company though, eh?

New Jersey Steel baron sells D-2 Steel in bulk. I list the following from their website:

A single bar of D2 - tool steel
Thickness....- .250"
width..............2"
Length..............36"
cost..........$118.18


The blade I'm holding is about 13.5" total length, 1.75" wide. From a yard of bar stock, I can get 2 full knives, plus one or 2 smaller knives from that one bar. If I get 4 blanks from that one bar, and they sell for more than $29.54 each, I've made what I spent on the blade steel alone. Knife makers both here on the forums and not, have been doing this for decades.

But if you take another knife maker, on this forum or not, and they stock removal that same piece of steel into a blade like this, heat treat it themselves or send it out...put $20 worth of Micarta or $15 worth of Cocobolo on the handle. They use $35 worth of leather sheath materials and charge you anywhere up to $950 for that blade.

....and that's more acceptable? Why?

The CFK warranty looks to be pretty much the same as any "favorite" knife maker we can find..here or anywhere. What's the problem? IMO, "brand name"...

Nike!..vs..Converse!..vs..New Balance!!...vs Puma!.............it's no different....

4. You are welcome to your opinion and it is obviously shared by others. Brand loyalty, myopia and critical interpretation of words [CS vs. CRKT thread as one example] will always play a part in how someone thinks or feels about something. Doesn't mean they are right or wrong though....it just means they are discriminatory in nature [that can be both good and bad].

Right now I've got the blade in my hand, looking at it with an indifferent point of view. I have to if I'm going to [try to] properly evaluate it. The "got a box in the mail!" giddyness is long gone and now I have to try and example this knife to everyone in a video. I'm reserving judgement until the very end of my test.

Boy, that is a wall of text! Maybe start a new thread :thumbup:


Yep. Oops. ^^ that's what the ebay ads do say. Dunno why I typed sourced in US....probably because I've been looking around at so many websites the past few days, combined with the heat+work....been kind of a miserable week actually...anyway...My mistake and I'll let that be for now.

I know why you typed that, you have no idea what you are talking about. Sorry bud. You are proving everyone else here right the more you post. Keep going!
 
Boy, that is a wall of text! Maybe start a new thread :thumbup:

I know why you typed that, you have no idea what you are talking about. Sorry bud. You are proving everyone else here right the more you post. Keep going!

Then don't read it.

I made a mistake when I typed it. Jump in on the Cold Steel band wagon and sue me. At least I owned up to my mistake instead of taking a dose from the 1st Edition of the Linton Manual of Peddling a Holier-Than-Thou Attitude like you did.
 
Then don't read it.

I made a mistake when I typed it. Jump in on the Cold Steel band wagon and sue me. At least I owned up to my mistake instead of taking a dose from the 1st Edition of the Linton Manual of Peddling a Holier-Than-Thou Attitude like you did.

Then don't post it :thumbup:

Also, why not deflect your mistake on to cold steel.....cuz that makes sense....
 
Then don't post it :thumbup:

Also, why not deflect your mistake on to cold steel.....cuz that makes sense....

I can post in a public forum any way I like, so long as it remains remotely constant with the topic and within the confines of the form rules. Don't like it? Don't read it. Ignore me, in fact...please do. This is my final interaction with you, I've now added you to the ignore list.

...and I'm not deflecting in the slightest. The analogies are simplistically similar..."wordCommies" gotta' make a big deal about nothing and get their points across - so I guess even the most "simple" comment is beyond your limited comprehension.
 
I love watching threads slowly descend into petty arguments about what a forum is and how you're supposed to use it.

Or

We could talk about the subject of the thread.
 
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