CGG Sebenzas

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Little kids souldn't play with knives....

With that said, let me ask a question that has to do with the topic:

Who prefers the custom CGG to the stock ones?

My first decorated was not one of the "stock" patterns listed on CRK, and I am glad I put up the extra cash for something unique! How does anyone else feel????

Michael
 
I was just forwarded an email to check out this thread.... there have been a number of points that have been brought up that need to be answered.

First off, I haven't seen the other threads, but in this one Dennis is 100% in the wrong. Whatever his true motivations, RGRAY posted just a link to some pictures of the knives in mention. The post hasn't been edited, so we know that's *all* he posted. Dennis decided to jump down his throat and IMO, that was undeserved.

Second, regarding Dennis Wright's new "No Sales to BFC members" policy... if Dennis doesn't want to take business from BladeForums.com members, I'm sure that they will be more than happy to buy Chris Reeve Products elsewhere. It's his perogative. I highly doubt if he's going to ask every customer where they got his information from, so I don't think it's a policy that is going to work, but that's just me. If he wants to grand stand, that's his perogative.

Third, regarding our "dealer" policies... Dennis posted the following -
"The owners and administrators consider those of us dealers who post here and do not pay to advertize, as freeloaders and parasites, possibly with reason. I do not care to be categorized as such."
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That is not the entire truth, and is a mischarecterization, something I have explained over and over again, despite Mr. Wright's protestations otherwise.

Our policy is that if a Dealer is using BladeForums.com to make sales, then they should turn around and help support the site they are making money off of. If a dealer posts knives for sale, actively tries to gain customers through BladeForums.com, and doesn't want to support the site, then yes, they are freeloaders and parasites, there's no other conclusion about it. There is no free lunch.

Call up Tactical Knives or BLADE Magazine and ask if they will allow you to advertise for free. Go to any Knife Show and ask where the free tables are. You'll quickly get my drift.

If a dealer doesn't make any sales of BladeForums.com, doesn't post knives for sale, doesn't actively promote their business through BladeForums.com, etc, and doesn't want to advertise, hey, I've got no problem with them. They don't bother us, we don't bother them.

All I'm asking for is some reciprocation from the dealers that *do* make money off us. I don't think that's an unfair request. As such, we limited the Knives For Sale: Dealer's forum to paying advertisers only.

Personally, I wish Mr. Wright the best of luck with his new policy. Perhaps he should remove his store contact information from his signature file so that he doesn't have to pay for calls on his 1-800 number since he's not going to be selling to BladeForums.com members anymore... it'd give him every opportunity to live up to his promise, and would remove any uncertainty about incoming calls. I'd also be curious as to how many customers he's gained from the forums, but that's just for personal edification...

Spark

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Hello Kevin. I was wondering when you would pop up. Considering the the reparte' we had a few weeks ago this is about what I expected.

Since you don't have all of the information you really have no way of knowing who is right or wrong, not that it really matters.

Actually, I removed the store contact information from my signature two days ago, right afer I posted my intentions, you could have seen that by checking my profile.

I have turned away two customers and referred them to other dealers or CRK. One by phone and one via E-mail. (I did ask how the e-mailer found me. The other person volunteered the information.)

I will not always ask but if the information is volunteered, I will refuse the sale and refer the customer to someone else. If that's grandstanding, so be it. Since the main bone of contention here seems to be my status as a dealer while posting here it seems only appropriate to do that, as I do not intend to stop posting.

The total number of customers that I have gained since I started posting on BFC last year is aproximately 20. At least, that is what a quick check of my records shows.

In deference to Anne's wishes, if you have any more questions or, if you would like to know the history behind this, you know my E-mail address.



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Dennis Wright
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Dennis;
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LIFE IS HARD!
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Well, Dennis, when you cause problems then you shouldn't be suprised when I'm alerted to it. After all, you reap what you sow, and are responsible for your own actions. Pithy comments, barbed accussations, blame shifting, and misrepresentation of the facts don't change where the responsibility lies.

I don't know what history you and RGRAY have, nor do I care. But when you start jumping down members throats over them posting links to pictures, yes, you are in the wrong. I'm not concerned with what happens when you interact off the forums, but what happens when you interact on the forums.

The main bone of contention seems to be your looking for trouble, not your being a dealer. Don't confuse the two issues. I only entered this thread after you decided to lash out at us.

As for checking your profile, I looked at your signature on the thread. If you already changed it, so much the better. BTW, since as of yesterday your signature remained unchanged (see your post above), I guess your "2 days" comment isn't quite accurate.

Other than that, yes, I do think you are grandstanding with your little game and posting (NSTBFCM) in your signature. If you have a different opinion, please feel free to give us insight.

By saying the equivalent of "Oh, I'm not actually going to ask customers if they are BFC members", IMHO you are copping out. If you are serious about doing something, go all the way with it.

It's a pity you've decided to work against us instead of with us, but it's to be expected. After all, you can't please all of the people all of the time.

Regardless, if you and RGRAY have a problem, I'd suggest you handle it off the forums. If you feel that somehow BladeForums.com is responsible for your problems with RGRAY, and as a result, you want to take it out on all of your BladeForums.com customers, then clearly there are some other issues that you need to resolve.

Have a nice day.

Spark

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Well Dennis is right about one thing, we do not know the full story here and that is exactly why this whole thing looks like a childish outburst from from him.

To cut off BFC Members is IMHO a very childish and immature way to handle a problem.

So with respect to Anne I am closing this thread and both parties can call me and explain to me why the hostilites are being aired here on this forum.

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