Chapman HT oven WIP

Ok folks, sorry for the long hiatus. I had a trip I had to go on so I just got back to working on the oven yesterday. I want to get the control box done, but I can't do the control box until I get the stand done since the control box will be welded (and integral) to the stand. And I can't get the stand done until I get the hinges for the door finished, because doing the hinges means I will be moving the oven around quite a bit for the welding and such. So I got the hinges done this weekend.

I'm using 3" bullet hinges. I've done enough work with bullet hinges to know that I mess it up every single time, so I bought twice as many as I needed for this project. And I was right: I messed up the first set, so good thing I had extras. I'd say it's a close call what I like less, welding bullet hinges or tapping holes. Either way, I got to do both this weekend.

I'll also say that this hinge mechanism is the only part of this build that has kept me up at night wondering how I was going to do it. I wanted the hinges to be completely adjustable so the door will fit flush no matter how I build the door. You can see from the photos how I did it, and I have to say it works absolutely perfectly. I have a lot of wiggle room to adjust the hinges to make the door fit perfectly.

Here's the setup:
I welded 3/8" bar stock to the door, and I welded the hinge to that bar stock. Don't pay too close attention to this first photo. I have the hinges upside down on it (thus the messed up first set).

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After I cut those hinges off and flipped them right side up, I set the door with the welded hinges on top of the oven and measured where the second part of the hinge would meet the side of the oven. Then I welded 3/8" stock underneath that since I'm going to be putting 3/8" bolts in to hold the hinges and I wanted more metal to tap into.

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Then I took the bottom part of the hinges and welded bar stock to them along with a spacer block.

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Then I drilled some 7/16" holes in the bar stock that bolts to the oven. Then I went over to my mini-mill and slotted those holes. If you look closely, you can see the hinge poking out behind the milling vise.

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Then I drilled and tapped holes in the blocks I welded to the oven frame originally.

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Now you can see how this fits together. Those are 3/8" bolts.

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Here is a photo from the back of the oven looking towards the door. You can see that I am able to get it fit up pretty good. If you look closely at this photo, you can see I'm using washers as spacers between the oven frame and the door hinge slotted bars. This way I can move the door in and out, left and right, and I can also adjust tilt and vertical to some degree.

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That's it for this weekend. Next week I'm going to get the stand done so I can then get to work on the control box.
 
That's going to be one solid oven. You're doing as good a job with the WIP as you are with the oven build and design. Keep up the good work.
 
Got the stand done today. I didn't take a bunch of pictures. It's just 2" square tubing. The three pieces at the bottom where the wheels attach are 1/4" wall because I wanted more weight on the bottom so this thing isn't too top heavy. The 4 uprights are 1/8" wall. I had to do a lot of grinding of my welds because I was getting terrible porosity. I figured out at the end that my mig gun tip was somewhat clogged so I wasn't getting much gas flow. I should have figured that out earlier...

Anyway, now I'm going to get to work on the control box.

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Question for all of you who have heat treat ovens: when you open the door when it's hot, how much heat goes down? Seems like a silly question, but I'm asking because I'm going to put my screen below the oven in the front. It's probably going to be about 10" or so below the actual opening into the interior of the oven. I can either make the screen flush with the front of the 2" square uprights, or I can make it flush with the back of them - so it would be 2" in compared to the front of the oven. I'd rather have it flush with the front, but if heat going down and melting it is going to be an issue, then I'll inset it...
 
when you open the door when it's hot, how much heat goes down?
My first thought was concerning how much the temp dropped in oven. Now I think I understand, you're asking how much of the heat out the open oven door falls downward? Since heat rises, I don't think that much would go down. I've not noticed much, but then my oven is open in the front with nothing below the open door. For the short time the door would be open, I really think it would be ok. I've got my oven sitting on a cart with the bottom of the interior of oven perhaps 6" to 8" above the cart where gloves are laying and I've never noticed any heat on the gloves.
 
I got the control box done this weekend. Since the side and top panels are removable, I didn't want to put the control box off to the side, so I put it underneath.

First, I framed out the left side, top, bottom, front and back, since those panels all get welded into place. Then I laid out my electronics and drilled all the holes to mount them to the side panel before I welded the side panel on. Next, I cut out the holes for the 4 fans I'm putting in on the bottom panel and welded that into place. Then I put in the front panel and cut out a hole for the screen and drilled the mounting holes. Then I drilled the vent holes in the side panel. Next, I welded a piece of 1.5'' angle in the top left corner of the right side that is going to hold the door close switch. Then I made a removable side panel. I was going to hinge this and let it swing open, but for the few times I'm going to open it that seemed like too much work. So I just made the whole panel removable.

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Another well documented post to the oven thread. I do like the size of the control panel area, plenty of room to work. I see the 4 holes for the fans - will they be blowing in? OR, exhausting air from the control area? Do I see any vent holes for the air to be pulled in or blown out?

That is going to be a very nice oven when completed.
 
Another well documented post to the oven thread. I do like the size of the control panel area, plenty of room to work. I see the 4 holes for the fans - will they be blowing in? OR, exhausting air from the control area? Do I see any vent holes for the air to be pulled in or blown out?

That is going to be a very nice oven when completed.
They are going to suck out from the bottom outside the oven and blow it into the control box. All of the holes on the top of the left side panel are the vent holes for the exhaust.
 
I overlooked those round vent holes at the top. Perfect location for air blowing in from bottom to exhaust warm air from top - the direction warm air wishes to move. The first ATX tower cases we got back in mid '90s had the fan blowing warm air down - didn't take long for me to change the direction of air flow since I needed all the cooling I could get with overclocking those CPUs back then.
 
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