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looks like something fun to play with if nothing else.
looks like something fun to play with if nothing else.
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just get a value pack of WD40, and bring a match.
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Fix it right the first time, use Baling Wire !
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Fix it right the first time, use Baling Wire !
What do you guys think this stuff is???
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I bought this product, not impressed.
I much prefer a metal match.
I will answer any questions, if you like.
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Thank you,
Marion David Poff aka Eye, Cd'A ID, USA mdpoff@hotmail.com
Review of the World Survival Institute, Chris Janowsky survival knife, the Ranger.
Talonite Resource Page, nearly exhaustive!!
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"Many are blinded by name and reputation, few see the truth" Lao Tzu
I much prefer a metal match.
I will answer any questions, if you like.
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Thank you,
Marion David Poff aka Eye, Cd'A ID, USA mdpoff@hotmail.com
Review of the World Survival Institute, Chris Janowsky survival knife, the Ranger.
Talonite Resource Page, nearly exhaustive!!
Fire Page, metal match sources and index of information.
"Many are blinded by name and reputation, few see the truth" Lao Tzu
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I have not tried it but just read the information on it. Biggest problem I have is that it is a one time use item... when you run out... which is relatively few uses.... it is gone. I'm with Marion, the metal match is the way to go.... learn how to use it and you'll never be lacking for a fire... you'll lose it before it runs out
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I had fun making these:
1. Double boil and melt some bees wax (best done outside)
2. When the wax is melted, dip a cotton ball into it until it is soaked.
3. Drop the hot,waxy ball into a cookie sheet full of magnesium chips and roll it around.
4. While the ball is still sticky, place a second cotton ball on top and then place the whole thing on a pre-cut square of waxed paper.
5. Fold up the wax paper to form a "kiss" as in Hershey. I call them my kisses of fire.
6. When you are ready for you fire just unwrap the wax paper with ball in it and use a spark to ignite the second cotton ball.
These things burn very hot and last about 15-20 minutes(I have timed them).
7. The hardest part is finding a machine shop that machines magnesium. If you can they will propably be more then happy to let you cart some off (very hazardous to keep around the shop).
8. Another handy item to have is some "miners carbide" for starting wet fires. I carry a couple of stainless pipecaps with me and a few grains of the carbide. Let the caps get some water in them, drop in the carbide and it genetates acytiline(sp?) gas that will burn in water.
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Ron,
Bremerton, Washington
[This message has been edited by muzzleup (edited 10-11-2000).]
1. Double boil and melt some bees wax (best done outside)
2. When the wax is melted, dip a cotton ball into it until it is soaked.
3. Drop the hot,waxy ball into a cookie sheet full of magnesium chips and roll it around.
4. While the ball is still sticky, place a second cotton ball on top and then place the whole thing on a pre-cut square of waxed paper.
5. Fold up the wax paper to form a "kiss" as in Hershey. I call them my kisses of fire.
6. When you are ready for you fire just unwrap the wax paper with ball in it and use a spark to ignite the second cotton ball.
These things burn very hot and last about 15-20 minutes(I have timed them).
7. The hardest part is finding a machine shop that machines magnesium. If you can they will propably be more then happy to let you cart some off (very hazardous to keep around the shop).
8. Another handy item to have is some "miners carbide" for starting wet fires. I carry a couple of stainless pipecaps with me and a few grains of the carbide. Let the caps get some water in them, drop in the carbide and it genetates acytiline(sp?) gas that will burn in water.
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Ron,
Bremerton, Washington
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Ron- Those 'kisses of fire' sound good.
I have played with calcium carbide too, but I find that it is a bit wild.
I find that paper towels soaked in simple canning paraffin do best for me. They are really simple to make, and they light easy with a metal match, they are not messy, and they last a good bit. I can post instruction if anyone likes....
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Marion David Poff aka Eye, Cd'A ID, USA mdpoff@hotmail.com
Review of the World Survival Institute, Chris Janowsky survival knife, the Ranger.
Talonite Resource Page, nearly exhaustive!!
Fire Page, metal match sources and index of information.
"Many are blinded by name and reputation, few see the truth" Lao Tzu
I have played with calcium carbide too, but I find that it is a bit wild.
I find that paper towels soaked in simple canning paraffin do best for me. They are really simple to make, and they light easy with a metal match, they are not messy, and they last a good bit. I can post instruction if anyone likes....
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Thank you,
Marion David Poff aka Eye, Cd'A ID, USA mdpoff@hotmail.com
Review of the World Survival Institute, Chris Janowsky survival knife, the Ranger.
Talonite Resource Page, nearly exhaustive!!
Fire Page, metal match sources and index of information.
"Many are blinded by name and reputation, few see the truth" Lao Tzu
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MDP: I would very much like to see your instructions on the parafin soaked paper towels!
I have also tried soaking canvas in bee's wax and then rolling it up into a tube (magnesium chips sprinkled on top before rolling)and then chopping up the tube into small rolls which can be started with a cotton ball and a Fire Strike.
If you just want to e-mail your instructions to me then that would be ok too, but its fun to share on the forums.
Ron
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Ron,
Bremerton, Washington
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I have also tried soaking canvas in bee's wax and then rolling it up into a tube (magnesium chips sprinkled on top before rolling)and then chopping up the tube into small rolls which can be started with a cotton ball and a Fire Strike.
If you just want to e-mail your instructions to me then that would be ok too, but its fun to share on the forums.
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Ron,
Bremerton, Washington
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Well, actually I feel embarassed for suggesting that I "instruct".
But....
I fold the paper towels into a convenient shape, then soak them in melted paraffin, stack them two high on a wax paper sheet, with a wax paper cover, and a weight to keep them folded while the paraffin cools and solidifies.
And I really like them.
When lighting them, you open the paper towel on it's main fold. Rough the surface. Strike a metal match spark into the roughed section, it lights pretty easily. When lit, stand on end. Flames are about two feet high, they last for 10-15 minutes.
And...............
They are waterproof, they don't stain or any of that....
I like them.
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Thank you,
Marion David Poff aka Eye, Cd'A ID, USA mdpoff@hotmail.com
Review of the World Survival Institute, Chris Janowsky survival knife, the Ranger.
Talonite Resource Page, nearly exhaustive!!
Fire Page, metal match sources and index of information.
"Many are blinded by name and reputation, few see the truth" Lao Tzu
But....
I fold the paper towels into a convenient shape, then soak them in melted paraffin, stack them two high on a wax paper sheet, with a wax paper cover, and a weight to keep them folded while the paraffin cools and solidifies.
And I really like them.
When lighting them, you open the paper towel on it's main fold. Rough the surface. Strike a metal match spark into the roughed section, it lights pretty easily. When lit, stand on end. Flames are about two feet high, they last for 10-15 minutes.
And...............
They are waterproof, they don't stain or any of that....
I like them.
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Thank you,
Marion David Poff aka Eye, Cd'A ID, USA mdpoff@hotmail.com
Review of the World Survival Institute, Chris Janowsky survival knife, the Ranger.
Talonite Resource Page, nearly exhaustive!!
Fire Page, metal match sources and index of information.
"Many are blinded by name and reputation, few see the truth" Lao Tzu
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I can carry them anywhere...
That is the great part about them being solid. The worst that they can do is give your pocket and or it's contents a light coating of paraffin dust, they need no container. The size is roughly 1.75 x 2.75 x 1.5 inches. You can light the whole thing to get alot of flame, or cut it into sections if your tinder is drier. And they are very light, almost negligible.
I have a couple in my basic kit, and liberally throught my gear.
If you want, send me an email, and I will send you a couple, last time I made them I made a couple hundred, so I have a few I could send you if you like.
Or, you can make things like this out of recycled materials. Take excess candle max, melt it in a double boiler or non-stick pan. Soak cardboard in the paraffin allow to cool and solidify. Firestarter. Same with folded up newspaper. If you want to have it self lighting, put strike anywhere matches in the corrugations of the cardboard. Or, take paper egg cartons, put dryer lint in the pockets, pour melted paraffin over until saturated but then they don't light as well, leave some lint without paraffin and they light easier. Basically, the paraffin is the fuel and the paper/cardboard is the wick.
I made all of those, and have tons left over, but of all of them I prefer the paper towel/paraffin firestater. Neat, easy, effective.
MDP
That is the great part about them being solid. The worst that they can do is give your pocket and or it's contents a light coating of paraffin dust, they need no container. The size is roughly 1.75 x 2.75 x 1.5 inches. You can light the whole thing to get alot of flame, or cut it into sections if your tinder is drier. And they are very light, almost negligible.
I have a couple in my basic kit, and liberally throught my gear.
If you want, send me an email, and I will send you a couple, last time I made them I made a couple hundred, so I have a few I could send you if you like.
Or, you can make things like this out of recycled materials. Take excess candle max, melt it in a double boiler or non-stick pan. Soak cardboard in the paraffin allow to cool and solidify. Firestarter. Same with folded up newspaper. If you want to have it self lighting, put strike anywhere matches in the corrugations of the cardboard. Or, take paper egg cartons, put dryer lint in the pockets, pour melted paraffin over until saturated but then they don't light as well, leave some lint without paraffin and they light easier. Basically, the paraffin is the fuel and the paper/cardboard is the wick.
I made all of those, and have tons left over, but of all of them I prefer the paper towel/paraffin firestater. Neat, easy, effective.
MDP