Chicago Cubs manager Dusty Baker is a knife guy

[mnblade]

I see in this story where George W. Bush came to a Cubs/Reds game and, during the pre-visit security clearance, Cubs manager Dusty Baker had to hand over his pocketknife. My first thought was what kind of :jerkit: thinks a Major League Baseball manager is going to assault the president with a knife? (You have to wonder if they didn't also confiscate all the baseball bats in the area.)

But then it occurred to me: It's pretty cool that Baker is a knife guy. Story says he was toting a "pearl knife."

Asked why he had a knife, Baker said: "It's a pocketknife that you use for stuff — cutting apples, doing whatever, tighten a screw or cut some tape off a box, cutting string, anything."

Look out everybody, it's common sense!!!!

BTW, Baker got his knife back after the game.

 

[stickbobby]

Hey mnblade do you ever wonder why knife fans buy into the whole shame thing instead of sticking up more for their rights? I have these two posters on a thread I started telling me Im a serial killer for talking about the tactics that Doctor Lecter uses with his knife. Maybe I dont know what Im talking about but to me it sounds so feminine, I mean that kind of thing is what little old women say, are we all getting led around by the nose by women and sissys in this country and having to watch every word we say and feel ashamed about carrying a pocket knife? Why do we go along with it?

 

[Esav Benyamin]

We go along with it so the laws don't get worse than they are. As long as we're outvoted by the wimps, w don't go around slashing people at random or waving our most exotic knives in their faces.

Hannibal Lector is a fictional character. Why get people unnecessarily upset over something that isn't even real?

 

[Hair]

People like stickbobby are the reason real knife knuts like Dusty Baker have to hand over there knife when the President visits. People like stickbobby are the reason the reporter even had to ask Dusty what a knife is for.

"It's a pocketknife that you use for stuff — cutting apples, doing whatever, tighten a screw or cut some tape off a box, cutting string, fast-drawing it out to knife-fight an army of ninjas, pirates, or highly-trained spec-ops."

 

[Monocrom]

Baker should have pointed out the fact that he's a well-respected manager, not some random punk off the street..... and if the President can't tell the difference, than it's a good thing that we're guaranteed a new President in the next election.:grumpy:

 

[mnblade]

Amen, Monocrom.

 

[Joe Dirt]

I'm glad I can use the "ignore" feature for certain folks.

 

[Deadhead Archer]

I'm glad I can use the "ignore" feature for certain folks.

What...and miss the train wreck?

On topic:

Can you imagine what the SS would have thought if Dusty EDC'd a Rukus instead of what was probably was a small slippy?

 

[j.h]

Baker should have pointed out the fact that he's a well-respected manager, not some random punk off the street..... and if the President can't tell the difference, than it's a good thing that we're guaranteed a new President in the next election.

Security protocol applies to everyone, even congresswomen....

?politics? aside, it doesn't surprise me that Bake would carry a pocket knife. he is also an avid fisherman. He was loved as the manager of the SF Giants. I like Felipe too, but Dusty was great.

 

[Monocrom]

Security protocol applies to everyone, even congresswomen....

Hmm..... My NG radar is going off. Actually, I think I detect a couple of other users on this thread.

Still; every baseball fan knows what Dusty Baker looks like.... And I doubt if he'd punch a member of the security staff.

 

[slotstik]

the probability of him harming the president isn't really the point.

 

[vactor]

the question i have, is this: the president in american is not a monarch or a dictator. he is an elected official, and the head of only one of three branches of our government. additionally, the line of succession in case the president cannot fulfill his duties is long and comprehensive. essentially, no matter what happens, we will always have someone in that office. so then, why is the president given protection to such ridiculous levels that he becomes so insular and isolated from the people that he represents? the security bubble, on the whole, is such that i don't think one can be president and have ANY IDEA of what the concerns of the individuals in the population are, simply because he is so removed from regular folks everyday (not Bush, but essentially every president since congress did not have to renew bills for presidential protection every year). i find this aspect of the office of the president another indicator that something is happening in america that prevents the elite and the regular folks from being able to see eye to eye ...

 

[Monocrom]

the probability of him harming the president isn't really the point.

Not trying to be sarcastic, but the whole point of the Secret Service is to keep the President safe. If the point isn't about the ridiculous possibilty of Dusty Baker harming the President, with a pocket knife, then what is the point? To treat a well-known and respected baseball manager like some punk off the street?

 

[Gollnick]

They probabaly took his knife because it was a particularly nice traditional slip joint and they were afraid that Bush might pocket it -- causing a political embarassment ala Puttin -- since Bush is a knife collector himself particularly interested in traditional slip joints.... though I hear he's rather gone off the Congress and Senator patterns lately.

 

[Gollnick]

Not trying to be sarcastic, but the whole point of the Secret Service is to keep the President safe. If the point isn't about the ridiculous possibilty of Dusty Baker harming the President, with a pocket knife, then what is the point? To treat a well-known and respected baseball manager like some punk off the street?

Caesar was killed with a knife by a respected Roman Senator (whom some believe might have actually been Caesar's own illegitimate son) whom Caesar had previously promoted to the high and trusted position of Praetor.

 

[Monocrom]

Caesar was killed with a knife by a respected Roman Senator (whom some believe might have actually been Caesar's own illegitimate son) whom Caesar had previously promoted to the high and trusted position of Praetor.

Actually, he was killed by a bunch of Senators..... Dusty Baker is one guy with a much more respectable job.:thumbup:

I don't blame Bush if he's afraid of a bunch of politicians. They make me nervous too!

 

[mnblade]

>>>>"... since Bush is a knife collector himself particularly interested in traditional slip joints."

Is that so? Where did you read this? I've never heard anything like that.

But back to the Secret Service vs. Dusty Baker -- Again, I find it terribly interesting and absurd that, in a room full of baseball bats and trainers' equipment (scissors and such), they're confiscate the team manager's POCKETKNIFE. What's more, I've seen pics of Bush's locker room visit. Baker was wearing his uniform. Now since baseball pants don't have pockets, I think it's most likely that the knife was probably in his street pants, hanging in his locker, or maybe, say, in the drawer of his desk. The paranoia of a thought-process that would see this as a threat to the president is mind boggling. But then again, we live in an age where simple tools are villified day in and day out. Oh my god, a knife! He could, you know, like kill everybody!

Now that I'm on a roll, you know what REALLY pisses me off? The fact that fans going in to a lot of baseball stadiums are wanded and have to give up their pocketknives. I guess they're trying to prevent anyone from hijacking Yankee Stadium and flying it into the White House.

 

[peacefuljeffrey]

Asked why he had a knife, Baker said: "It's a pocketknife that you use for stuff — cutting apples, doing whatever, tighten a screw or cut some tape off a box, cutting string, anything."

Look out everybody, it's common sense!!!!

We truly live in a sick world where carrying a knife -- a utilitarian instrument nearly as old as humanity itself -- is something that people would challenge us on, and demand a rationale for.

WE should be the ones asking IDIOTS why they DON'T carry a knife for those just-in-case, or even everyday occasions when it is a necessary tool.


-Jeffrey

 

[peacefuljeffrey]

Caesar was killed with a knife by a respected Roman Senator (whom some believe might have actually been Caesar's own illegitimate son) whom Caesar had previously promoted to the high and trusted position of Praetor.

Well, that's just one letter, and a simple switcheroo, away from PREDATOR, after all...


In other words, he shoulda seen it coming.

-Jeffrey

 

[peacefuljeffrey]

People like stickbobby are the reason real knife knuts like Dusty Baker have to hand over there knife when the President visits. People like stickbobby are the reason the reporter even had to ask Dusty what a knife is for.

"It's a pocketknife that you use for stuff — cutting apples, doing whatever, tighten a screw or cut some tape off a box, cutting string, fast-drawing it out to knife-fight an army of ninjas, pirates, or highly-trained spec-ops."

How is it that stickbobby, who evidently wants a return to the days when people could stridently carry, use, and display their knives without having to feel ashamed, is responsible for a reporter being so pathetically ignorant as to the utility of knives?

-Jeffrey