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hokutomaster said:
My issue is that having the C-word stamped on your blade is pretty much knowing that what you're carrying isn't top-notch, or high class or what have you. I know that my Kershaws aren't garbage knives like the nameless, brandless, cheapo edged chunks of metal like these knives. But yet they have "China" printed on the blade. WHY? :confused:
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Sorry, but this isn't true. Quality products can come from China just as easily as junk can come from the USA. Sure I will admit that I have more pride carrying a blade stamped USA on it. But the true pride of owner ship ( for me ) comes from knowing the product is of quality.
 
It's funny, I'm old enough to remember people saying the same thing about products made in Japan.
 
Quality can come from anywhere these days. I wish i had the funds to "only buy American", but i don't. I have some pretty awesome blades made in China & Japan & Taiwan. They have US Manufacturer's Names on them. I like them a lot. I use them a lot. They take & hold a great edge, dont chip & i have not broke any of them yet. I have a lot of Made in the USA blades as well.

Stop & think for a minute: we have been selling & they have been buying ALL of our scrap metal for decades. We are now buying metal from them. It may very well be the steel we sold them at some point.
 
Way before my time, but Occupied Germany produced lots of junk as well.

Made in Taiwan? Korea? ALL the high tech people slaver over come from factories controlled by the Taiwanese & Koreans nowadays (the factories are located in China).

Japan is a second-rate manufacturing power nowadays. Who buys Sony anymore?
 
Just my thoughts, but I would rather buy a US made product, junk or quality if it means keeping a job in the US. It affects us all. Has less to do about patriotism and more to do about self preservation...
 
Would you feel better if you knew that 2/3rds of the money of every imported product stays in the USA?

Cost of goods sold: 1/3 manufacturing factory, 1/3 US shippers/trucking/handling/distributor, 1/3 US retailer/marketing/advertisers

Rough numbers, but this is how product prices are calculated for Continental USA. Alaska may cost more for shipping, etc.
 
America & American Manufacturers use China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan to produce their blades, as does Gemany, Spain, etc... . The blades below are all made in China, Japan Or Taiwan. They are all excellent blades. Buy what you want, buy what you like. We still have that freedom.

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BUCK-Silver Creek Bait Knife.

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Boker Plus Elegance Vox BoB fixed blade. 7mm thick. BK2 for comparison.

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KaBar 1279 Grass Machete, 1248 Cutlass Machete, 1249 Kukri Machete.
 
It doesn't matter if it's made in China, Cambodia, Taiwan, Pakistan, if it's better and the price is right, I'll buy it. It's what drives competition. Produce better products for a better price, and my money goes to you.
 
Im in the IT business, one of the most over-seas outsourced industries there is. So I guess Im a little more sensitive to it. Im not an expert in international business practices so I will take your (CWL) info with a grain of salt.
 
Hey I'm in IT too... I guess it hekps I live in Washington state though, one of the IT capitals is Seattle.... Helps.

Meanwhile, I like cheap stuff. I buy tools at the dollar store from time to time. I've seen simple tools like pliars, hammers, etc. made of such poor quality it actually made me laugh. Stamped right in the side? "Made in the USA".

Crap can be produced anywhere. Personally, as long as an item has a major brand on it so I know I'm getting quality I can trust, I don't really care where it was made. Good stuff made in America gives me a little pride, and I have thumbed my nose at some Chinese Kershaws, but that's just because I'm willing to pay more for that warm fuzzy feeling of my knife being 100% local. If I was just looking for the best value ( good price, good quality) I wouldn't hesitate to buy a Chinese knife, so long as I knew the company producing it would ensure quality.

I think a person kind of has to get use to buying nonAmerican, since frankly outside of the worl of knives, some of the best consumer products aren't American. I can't even think of anything besides my knives that were American made. My car is Japanese, most of my electronics are probqbly fro, Chinda/Korea/Taiwan, when it comes down to it, you kind of have to realized these other countries are perfectly capable of producing quality goods.
 
CWL said:
Historically, US manufacturing in the 1970-1980s went downhill and left room for foreign imports to gain a foothold.

This is decades old. Started before most readers here was born or can remember.


Need to live in the present.
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I disagree.

We, as Americans, need to learn from our mistakes, and not waste our time with such ignorant statements.

Only we can change things, supporting the quality American makers is one way to help.

I don't care if it's knives or shoes, quality products will long outlast cheap junk, and in the long term pay for themselves.

Stating that you can't afford to buy American just shows a lack of desire to really help our country. What ever happened to saving to get the quality products we really want. It seems to me that is historically the American way.

Buying a $20 Chinese knife might give you immediate gratification, but in the long run it hurts us all.





Big Mike
 
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