Chinese Striders

If you are asking if I would buy a Strider if everything was equal and the company was simply based in China then my answer is no, but only because they would still be too expensive for me. If you are asking if I would buy a Chinese knockoff of a strider, no, never because I try not to encourage people who steal others intellectual property, and it probably would not be a very good knife.
There is nothing that is keeping the Chinese from making good knives. I am sure that if some Chinese factory wanted to they could produce a knife of just the same quality as a Sebenza, all it takes is knowledge, materials, and a staff dedicated to making a good product. Usually when a company gets something produced in China cost cutting is their only concern and you therefore get products that are poor quality. Sorry about the mini rant
 
I actually think that he was asking because MTech has started making knives that blatantly rip off the Strider design. I still wouldn't buy it though.
 
I could not see any relationship between the assumed poor qualifty of Strider and the assumption "If Strider were made in China". Both poor and good quality knives can be made in any country including China and US. What's the point to ask such a question?
 
Since Striders were made in the USA with 420mod steel, a liner lock, and FRN scales, only the licensing aspects of the question merit further discussion.

When you license in the US, you can at least take your case to court in the extremity. When you license in China, you will quickly see no further profit when your copyright or patented device is exported worldwide without any further renumeration. In other words, you starve while they get rich off your hard work. They do not hold themselves accountable to respect other people's property rights. They leave that to the new importer.

And lots of Americans buy because we worship the god of "Low Price Guaranteed."
 
bh49 said:
Ausjulius,
I hope one day Kizlyar or Rosarms knives or both brands became as popular in the world as Strider. And than somebody can decide that it is a good idea to steal design and produce knives without spending any time and money to design them. If this would happen, probably your point of view would change.
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ha ha ha ,,,,,,
indeed so ture,,,,,,,,
but, but but,,
you see in russia we have many many many companies coping our knives , as does rosarms,, we just get used to it :(....
we mark our knives with a laser and ,, well the guys making them in the back yard dont have this ,, so now its harder for them,

ever the odd chinese ordered copy of some of the simpler knives ive seen,,,,,,,
actualy today i saw,, in a very big, well known moscow gun shop some fake cold steel knvies, they were perfect copies,, but for tha handle material, which looke dalittle odd, and the number of theeth on the serrations :) . and screw heads,, other than that they were asgood as the real thing,,,,,,,,, other than the junk steel ofcorse :D..




what i was saying is that the chinese can make a knife as good as any you can buy in the world..........

at the blade show in moscow i was talking to a ex-soviet knife maker :d, now lives in the u.s. and he was saying he didint like liek folks fotoing his knives as he was worried that the chinese would rip off the forms of them,,
he siad to me,, but theyed never be able to come colse to replicationg them ofcorse,,
,, they were realy fine knives aspecialy the folding ones...

i disagreed,,
they could,,,, but it would cost you nearly asmuch as the realy knife :D.

there is amny skilled craftsmen in china, one must only look at some modern made jade carvings and otherivory and wood carings,,,
but who would order a copy of a pocketknife for 1000$ :D.... when they could have made what ever they wanted.

this is the same with the chinese knives.

they can make good knives, there is many very advanced factories in china,, its not all kids with blow tourches and files making the computers you know.

chinese only make what people buy , and what they have ordered..



now if tomorrow one of these chinese companies stopped making junk and started making high quality original knives and exporting them,, well id have no problem in buying them.....


now in china ,, with the reduction of state control. (actualy much less in china than here in russia)
there is some knife folks appearing, and in some of the larger cities there is some good knife shops, ther eis also several knfie and sword collectors forums on the net that are from mainland china..

maybe one of these chinese knife guys will up and decide to make a brand of knives to sell to his fellow knife users??


one can only hope,, they might make some good stuff..
 
aujulius and keithm and muskrat have it right.
looking down on the Chinese is foolish. they've invented ink and silk and noodles and gunpowder and and and...
Honkong and Taiwan and South Korea have shown what East Asia can do... China is doing it with a thousand times the power.

interesting to see people like E.B. don't ignore the people they've put on their ignore-list.
rather, it seems a "to be incognito"-list.
weird.
 
Sometimes 'fanning the flames' or 'adding fuel to the fire' is good since it allows for a more interesting debate as long as there is no disrespect.

Anyways as long as a Chinese product is of good quality why not, and I doubt too many of us can avoid buying anything from China there everywhere. China is becoming more Capitalist then we are.
 
Byrd made in China is much better than lot of us made brands.
you can make it anywhere with strict qc and you get second to none products
 
hardheart said:
not many cars in china, so there wouldn't be any car-jackers to make the knives
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lots of cars in china....... i think maybe 5 or more different factories..
you can see chinese cars here in russia,, mostly copies of amreican or japanese cars, but the chinese like chunky big froms, like some of the cars you yanks make, so you can always tell its chinese from a mile off,, just like all the russian cars as as ugly as hell,, ,, not including the volga ofcorse,,
 
3Guardsmen said:
Don't forget, half of the company is LEO!

3G
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Duane was a cop? I thought he was a Marine Sniper and then went into the knife biz with Mick? And while I don't agree with the context of the comment I also don't agree with having to tip toe around a company because one or more employees happen to be ex law enforcement. Big deal.:confused:
 
I'm a communist.

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OilMan said:
Duane was a cop? I thought he was a Marine Sniper and then went into the knife biz with Mick? And while I don't agree with the context of the comment I also don't agree with having to tip toe around a company because one or more employees happen to be ex law enforcement. Big deal.:confused:
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Duane is currently a Cop. I mentioned it because it seemed relevant to the rather snide comment hardheart made. I mean, if one is going to imply that a company is run by a criminal (former criminal, in this case), shouldn't one also mention the fact the the other co-owner of the company is a current LEO? For a guy who has owned a truck-load of Striders, I'm surprised you didn't know about Duane's other occupation.

3G
 
3Guardsmen said:
For a guy who has owned a truck-load of Striders, I'm surprised you didn't know about Duane's other occupation.

3G
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He's so low key you hardly hear anything about him although he makes an excellent knife.:o I'm not sure why you'd want to be a Cop AND a Rockstar though?:confused::D
 
I think it went something like this:

- BUck and strider had a deal
- Buck made strider design knives
- Buck started making somewhat similar looking knivesi in Strider looking stripes
- STrider said no more deal with buck
- It's get perverted in china makes rip striders. (which is probably being done and you can probably find them on ebay)

THis is a pic from new graham of a buck knife made in china
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or I have no idea what I'm talking about.
 
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