Chip off the old block!!!

pmsayre153 said:
Interesting that the trend seems to be that the factory edge tends to be brittle and more likely to actually chip while the Infi exposed by a re-sharpening performs as expected, dinging or rolling instead of chipping. Perhaps after the blades are tempered, the thinner Infi near the edge is at a higher than desired hardness, therefore more brittle, and some factory edges don't grind off all of this relatively brittle alloy, making some blades more prone to chipping. But, again, a re-sharpening removes the brittle Infi and leaves a tougher edge, the INFI that we've come to expect from Jerry and his crew of wonders from Wauseon. Just thinking "out loud".
Pete
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reasonable , man.:thumbup:
 
That is crazy man! :eek: . . . . As far as I can remember (about three drinks ago), I have NEVER seen anything like that!

Send that puppy in and we'll give it a proper burial!!!! :eek:. . .. Of course that means a lot of drinking, but hey, we do what we have to do!!!!!:thumbup:

Sorry for the inconvenience man!

We'll make it right by you.

I'm going to personally pour an extra shot of Johnny Walker Blue over the edge of your new one during the heat treat quench!!!! :thumbup:. . . (Don't worry. . . I'll have a glass of ice underneath it!!!!)

Let's Drink!!! :thumbup:

Jerry :D



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Jerry Busse said:
That is crazy man! :eek: . . . . As far as I can remember (about three drinks ago), I have NEVER seen anything like that!

Send that puppy in and we'll give it a proper burial!!!! :eek:. . .. Of course that means a lot of drinking, but hey, we do what we have to do!!!!!:thumbup:

Sorry for the inconvenience man!

We'll make it right by you.

I'm going to personally pour an extra shot of Johnny Walker Blue over the edge of your new one during the heat treat quench!!!! :thumbup:. . . (Don't worry. . . I'll have a glass of ice underneath it!!!!)

Let's Drink!!! :thumbup:

Jerry :D



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And this is the main reason we Buy INFI. :thumbup::cool:

It just doesn't get any better than that. :thumbup:
 
Jerry Busse said:
That is crazy man! :eek: . . . . As far as I can remember (about three drinks ago), I have NEVER seen anything like that!

Send that puppy in and we'll give it a proper burial!!!! :eek:. . .. Of course that means a lot of drinking, but hey, we do what we have to do!!!!!:thumbup:

Sorry for the inconvenience man!

We'll make it right by you.

I'm going to personally pour an extra shot of Johnny Walker Blue over the edge of your new one during the heat treat quench!!!! :thumbup:. . . (Don't worry. . . I'll have a glass of ice underneath it!!!!)

Let's Drink!!! :thumbup:

Jerry :D



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top man Jezza !!
 
dingy said:
reasonable , man.:thumbup:
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Thanks, dingy, but while my previous post may potentially be a reasonable explanation, perhaps the phenomenon of edge chipping is sufficiently rare that a more likely cause would be some sort of flaw in the blade stock: a preexisting micro-fracture; an inclusion or void; a localized, relatively gross imbalance of the alloying elements. Until nanotechnology allows us to assemble materials by precisely placing one atom or molecule at a time, all materials will have flaws and be non-uniform, making them susceptible to failure possibly well short of their yield strength, much less their ultimate strength. On occasion, these flaws will happen to be located at or sufficiently near the edge to make chipping failure a real possibility. As OldPhysics has already noted "It is through careful inspection of failures that a product is improved." I'd like to know the results of the analysis.
Pete
 
Very comforting response there Jerry ... the warranty is'nt needed hardly at all .... but when it is :cool:
 
hey,gee whizz,i was feeling like a really bad guy for this happening,felt like i really did something wrong,BUT WOW,thanx for all the support guys!

Jerry,she will be back wit you in a week or two,im gonna have a drink to her just before she goes back!thanks loads
 
ghillieboy said:
hey,gee whizz,i was feeling like a really bad guy for this happening,felt like i really did something wrong,BUT WOW,thanx for all the support guys!

Jerry,she will be back wit you in a week or two,im gonna have a drink to her just before she goes back!thanks loads
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A find tradition. I toast all my mistresses before they go travelling.;)
 
ghillieboy said:
hey,gee whizz,i was feeling like a really bad guy for this happening,felt like i really did something wrong,BUT WOW,thanx for all the support guys!

Jerry,she will be back wit you in a week or two,im gonna have a drink to her just before she goes back!thanks loads
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Mike you sure do know how to treat a knife :D LoL. Perhaps that was the 1 in 500 knife that just got unlucky. Dont forget to video the new NMSFNO blade when it arrives. And stop WHACKING Wolverine :)
 
You the man Jerry! I love seeing how Busse so fervently supports the blades they produce. All I have to say is....phenomenal company.
 
I have never had a Busse chip out like that, even on my thinned out edges. It's good to know that if I ever get such a knife from Busse, they will make it right. That's the reason we buy Busses.
 
Jerry Busse said:

I'm going to personally pour an extra shot of Johnny Walker Blue over the edge of your new one during the heat treat quench!!!! :thumbup:. . . (Don't worry. . . I'll have a glass of ice underneath it!!!!)

Let's Drink!!! :thumbup:

Jerry
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I was extremely worried about Jerry's response concerning abuse... until I heard he would have a glass of ice underneath the blade... whew...

Alcohol abuse is no joking matter... :eek:
 
ghillieboy said:
The chip was in a branch,so i must of hit something hard before that to weaken it then the branch did the rest1Does anyone think the cold would have summit to do with it?hacking at ice and the freezing temperature!
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That’s what I was thinking about…? Maybe extreme cold or something.. maybe some of the guys on the board from up north have seen this… temperature defiantly changes the properties of metal, but my understanding is that they need to be really extreme.
 
nydude said:
That’s what I was thinking about…? Maybe extreme cold or something.. maybe some of the guys on the board from up north have seen this… temperature defiantly changes the properties of metal, but my understanding is that they need to be really extreme.
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only theorizing here... but if there was a defect or fracture line, then having the blade go from cold to warm in repeat cycles in the freezing cold, and back to a warm house could make any weakpoints in the blade expand and contract fractionally, but enough to increase the damage potential ..

We dont have any extreme temps in NZ, of which I am quite thankful.
 
i think jerry does a dye penetrant test to inspect for fracture defects in outgoing blades :confused:

sometimes small branches die before growing out and the resulting internal structure acts like a metal nail when you try to chop it. all of the force is concentrated on a 1/8-1/2" round rod of hardened (and apparently frozen) wood.
 
OK, here is what needs to happen. Put that puppy back in the mail so Jerry can get his lookie at it, and they can do some analyzing on it. Then he can ship that thing my way, and I will grind that edge back and really give her some tlc, and use it

I'm just saying, I would still take sloppy second on that hunk o infi without a worry.
 
We should have more dedicated traditions here. Buy the first Busse, have to do a youtube dance. Damage one? Rechristen the replacement with a bottle of coors lt. lol
 
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