chisel grind on swords

Lycosa said:
Better steel and heat treatment, Re: Hartsfield's blades.
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Heck I would even agree with that, the Japanese had very limited natural resources and let's face it heat treating technology has advanced a bit over the last few centuries. However, there's more to a sword then steel and heat treat.
 
Triton---True. Phill's Katana was too heavy for me. I prefer the lighter traditional Katanas. My Hartsfield sword did have good balance, though.
I'd like to snag a Katana by Warren Thomas.
 
Lycosa said:
Triton---True. Phill's Katana was too heavy for me. I prefer the lighter traditional Katanas. My Hartsfield sword did have good balance, though.
I'd like to snag a Katana by Warren Thomas.
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I'm not familiar with him, got a web link handy? Japanese stuff isn't really my primary area of interest, but I do like to kind of keep up with who is who in custom stuff. I'm constantly amazed at the talented craftsman that we have popping up.
 
Go to SteelAddiction, to see Warren's work. I don't think you will go for Warren's blades. They are mix of Titanium, Carbon Fiber ans Carbide. Let me know what you think. Also, Google; Warren Thomas Knives.
 
a lot of filipino blades are chisel ground - it just makes for easier grinding/sharpening

I think if you're hacking a target, it doesn't matter if it's double ground or chisel ground. I prefer double aesthetically....
 
spyken said:
a lot of filipino blades are chisel ground - it just makes for easier grinding/sharpening

I think if you're hacking a target, it doesn't matter if it's double ground or chisel ground. I prefer double aesthetically....
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and what exactly is the gem you have in your profile pic?
 
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Lycosa said:
Go to SteelAddiction, to see Warren's work. I don't think you will go for Warren's blades. They are mix of Titanium, Carbon Fiber ans Carbide. Let me know what you think. Also, Google; Warren Thomas Knives.
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Oh, I have seen those, I think he was at the Blade show maybe two years ago. True, not a fan. I guess I see him as sort of in the same realm as Hartsfield except even more so. That is, a lot of respect for being able to find a market niche, cater to it and make a living at it as well as being very smart in the marketing department. As far as the actual products themselves though that same lack of battle field sword feedback applies in my mind. Whichever, there's no right or wrong to this question, just what appeals to the customer. :thumbup:
 
Triton---True. :thumbup:
I have heard that the Carbide edge on Warren's blades, cuts very, very well.
Can you rec a Katana? Thanks.
 
Lycosa said:
Triton---True. :thumbup:
I have heard that the Carbide edge on Warren's blades, cuts very, very well.
Can you rec a Katana? Thanks.
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I have owned both as you know. There is no real comparison between the cutting ability of the WT and the Hartsfield. The WT is quite adequate, but the Hartsfield is much sharper, durable, and devastating. The WT is fast as it has no weight behind it, but in a full blown cut, the Hartsfield will perform much better. I own three Hartsfield swords with a chisel grind. One is a full length 28" katana. One a shinobigatana about 20" long. The other is a 27" ninja style straight sword. You do get some deflection in cutting if your technique is flawed, and you do have to stay focussed to make a straight cut, but due to the extreme sharpness of Phill's blades, it is not difficult. The edge really does most of the work for you, so even a hack can get a good cut. I also have double ground Hartsfield swords, and I do believe I have to give the "edge" to the chisel grind for absolute sharpness.
 
oh this thread again...

cool new posts, i love sword cutting data...

since i test many of my swords on wood ( i live in a forest, after all ), i find that the chisel edge is not good on hard targets. i cut 2 by 4s in one swipe with v-grinds but experienced too much deflection with chisel grind, and that deflection also resulted in damage due to side loading. it still would seem to me that the biased cutting ability in the cg would help in cutting unstable, soft targets like free hanging rope or tatami, at least in one direction. humans are also not symmetrical!
 
Jah!
Japanese swords were not meant to cut 2x4"s but if you are blowing through them with one swipe, gfy! Any edge damage??
 
occasional edge damage( 3 times on over 50 2by4s), usu. on a standing 2 by 4, sometimes i cut them lying on a block, would love to post pics! damage consists of minor deformation that looks like a chip but is usu. ductile failure, only on thinner edges that were really designed for rope.

i think if i could cut straight and the target material didn't shift to side-load the edge, there would be no damage at all.

you should see the nissan i also used to test a blade on... or the propane bottle...
 
Lycosa said:
Triton---True. :thumbup:
I have heard that the Carbide edge on Warren's blades, cuts very, very well.
Can you rec a Katana? Thanks.
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If I were in the market for a cutting katana I suppose I'd probably want to get my hands on one of Howard Clark's L6 models through Bugei.
 
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