Chop-Off! Bk 4, 5, 7, 9 and others *pic heavy*

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Had a few questions asked, and had a few thoughts I wanted to resolve in my own mind. So I pulled out all my knives/blades I consider ''Choppers'' and did a lil informal test. This isn't scientific...it aint very conclusive, and I hope if you don't agree with my findings that you maintain civility. This is what I found and what I think....you may have totally different findings/rankings and that's fine, I hope that all of you test for yourself and see what works for YOU

The contestants
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Wolf Creek Forge Tomahawk
SOG FastHawk
Plumb Hatchet
Modified Tram machete
Crimson Falcon's MegaChax
Thai Enep Size 0
Fiddleback Forge 12'' machete
and for the Becker portion...
9
4
7
5


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The VERY jerry-rigged chopping rig......it worked well though.

I went in random order. The knives I haven't chopped with yet got one practice run, then the ''real'' one. ~10 chops per blade (maybe 11 on some who knows). I rested and made sure I was at same strength for all the blades.

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This is the hold I used for every blade...as far back on handle as I could, usually 1-2 fingers and a thumb grasping the handle. I used gloves and a lanyard when possible.
medium is a almost new pine 4x4. I took two pics of each knife's notch...one from each side/angle

The BK7
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BK9
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BK4
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BK5
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FBF 12''
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Enep
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MegaChax
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Tram
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Wolf Hawk
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Plumb
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SOG
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The Tram won without question, I was expecting that. I was a lil surprised about some of the others and how they placed. The WCF hawk was VERY unwieldy to chop with, as a matter of fact both hawks are kinda difficult....not much area to hit and the straight handle dont help. The lil Plumb surprised me, chopped well and with accuracy. The 7 was pretty nice, not as deep as the 9 but held up well. The 5 sticks....very deep cuts but not much ''break-out'' or chips. I find it easier to do THIS kind of chopping with straight knives then the 3 curved ones.

This is a pic of how they performed...based on notch depth
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This is how I ranked them by OVERALL use....ie notch depth, plus comfort, ease, and accuracy.
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These would be my first choices to carry in the woods for just power chopping.
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The Tram is just FUN to chop with....so I did another round
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A lil vid...this isn't the 9's official entry, just a demo. I did this last so my power and speed may be a lil slower LOL

There is a lil wait at beginning of vid before the action starts. I had to start cam, then get 9 and gloves on...then move to the chopping position.





This review and it's results/judgements are ONLY based on vertical power chopping at a downed log/material. The curved blades would have fared better in my placement if I was doing repetitive light chopping or limb removal. There are many different chopping tasks...this is just one.

The scales on the 9 are the new Xtreme Chopper scales by Tommy The Who. I will be testing/reviewing them more in depth at a later time.
 
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Great review and chop off! I like those BK9 scales, that's an interesting idea by wrapping the end out a little further. Reminds me of the toooj handles on the warthog, heavy bowie, kukri, etc. Did you make them?

-orangish ducktape
 
FUN!
I bet your arm's tired.
Do you think the ranking would be different if you'd used your left hand? only one way to find out...
 
What is that megachax
Crimson Falcon, he's a Beckerhead and a hobby knifemaker. He made it up awhile back...chops pretty good...the stock is thinner then the 4 or 9, about halfway between machete thickness and knife thickness IMO.

Great review and chop off! I like those BK9 scales, that's an interesting idea by wrapping the end out a little further. Reminds me of the toooj handles on the warthog, heavy bowie, kukri, etc. Did you make them?

-orangish ducktape
Those are the new Xtreme Chopper scales from TommyTheWho

FUN!
I bet your arm's tired.
Do you think the ranking would be different if you'd used your left hand? only one way to find out...

I'm fairly ambidextrous....so prolly about same power but sloppier notches. And no I aint doing it again LOL

While I'm giving credit where it's due....the Fiddleback is Trade's and the Tram was beautifully modded by him as well.
 
That chop off looks epic :thumbup:

The 9 seems like an absolute monster. I love the wooden scales too.
 
Great test, nice to see first hand how well Darrin's heat treat holds up, and the feedback on the handle and such was good. I'm going to make up a couple more big choppers (thicker mega-chax, and a KLO of my own design), and if you'd like, I'll send em your way for some testing. Maybe some pants too :)

Would you mind commenting some on the handle comfort on the various designs? Particularly the Tram; it looks like it would be fun to rehandle.
 
Awesome! I love reviews like this. Great work. I liked the way you ranked them on overall use and seeing how far the 9 and 7 jumped up from the ranking based on the initial ranking of how much wood they ate up. Is it the handle and versatility of the Beckers that realy stood out to you in this test?
 
Great test, nice to see first hand how well Darrin's heat treat holds up, and the feedback on the handle and such was good. I'm going to make up a couple more big choppers (thicker mega-chax, and a KLO of my own design), and if you'd like, I'll send em your way for some testing. Maybe some pants too :)

Would you mind commenting some on the handle comfort on the various designs? Particularly the Tram; it looks like it would be fun to rehandle.

The Becker handles are very secure and comfortable (which we all know) and just feel good when chopping. The Enep is OK, I need thicker scales to make it a lil more stable in the grip..and to make it vibrate less. It doesn't feel as stable in the hand because of the lack of rear knob or pommel protrusion/swell.

The Tram does need a lil handle tweaking. and a lanyard hole. I may rehandle it entirely. It is perfectly usable from the box though.
You design chops very well, as you can see it made a very clean notch, maybe the best-defined one. The kukri style blades are just harder for me to use effectively...seems to be a very small sweet spot as opposed to the straight Tram. Once I have a lot more blade-time with the kukri patterns...I think I will see better results.

Awesome! I love reviews like this. Great work. I liked the way you ranked them on overall use and seeing how far the 9 and 7 jumped up from the ranking based on the initial ranking of how much wood they ate up. Is it the handle and versatility of the Beckers that realy stood out to you in this test?

I know the way I ranked them at the end doesn't seem to bear up by the chop results...but a large part of a knife's real-world usefulness is in how it handles/feels not how it performs in a controlled test. I just feel more comfortable with a straight blade....and part of my choices were based on actually Packing the blade around and not on how it worked. The Enep is a chopping beast, no doubt in my mind..but it is very heavy. The same is true for the Wolf hawk, heavy and long.

Part of it is value as well. I really enjoy the Fiddleback....but at a price point of 110$ shipped, it just dont perform to it's price. IMO, no intent on starting a flame war. The 9 is ~30$ cheaper and I would trust it better for many tasks besides chopping, and the 9 and FB were almost neck-to-neck in chop power. I'm sure the 18'' Fiddleback would perform much better....but I could buy a LOT of Trams or Imascas for 110$ (the FB is a Imasca with better handles and grinds)

The Tram is long...but very light. I need to buy a digital scale, but I doubt the Tram at 18'' weighs more then the 9. It packs easily.

The 7 jumped so much because it is a powerhouse for its size. Not that far behind the bigger choppers...yet highly portable. The 5 stayed low on the list because it sticks so bad. I like to see large chunks flying when I chop....not to see a blade sink deep but just leave a small groove in the material. Also uses more energy yanking it out for the next swing.
 
...a large part of a knife's real-world usefulness is in how it handles/feels not how it performs in a controlled test...part of my choices were based on actually Packing the blade around and not on how it worked...Part of it is value as well.

Seems like a sensible approach and makes a lot of sense to me.
 
TB, very good. Is that Tram machete Modified by the old man or is it stock?

Modded. Tip reshaped, spine squared and nice edge put on. It's a nice working critter lemme tell ya.
The Old man does nice work. For an old man. :D

I was wondering the whole time how the M-18 would do. I dont think I could have done 10 chops....that unholy beast might have powered thru the 4x4 before then!






ETA-
I love machetes. Always have, I have used a machete more then any cutting tool, besides a chainsaw. I am very excited about the possible return of the BK6 in 2013. I WILL be ordering, pre-ordering, begging..whatever it takes to have one in my sweaty mitts ASAP. I Love the machete, and I love the Becker handles with KaBars warranty and quality heat treated 1095. I used one or two at the Gathering...and fell in lust as soon as I used the Patrol Machete. I do kinda wish they would offer a 18'' version as well...I would be happy to buy both.

Actually, the 6 is one of the Beckers I will own in multiple, 2 or 3 of them sounds about right.
 
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Nice chop off!! I had no idea that the tram was such a beast. Still gonna get a nine next but good to know.
 
Excellent research TB! Luckily some Tramontina can be had here and I may just pick up a couple and put an edge to them. But I can't wait to have the King. I'm really liking it more with every thread affirming its excellence in many areas. :thumbup: :)
 
Great chop off !!! Machetes ROCK !!! One of the most under rated, overlooked, most functional, most economical blades out there.
 
Awesome chop off! I love me some tramotina action. I use a 14" bolo tram for work and it is nothing short of amazing what can be done with such a thin blade. Nice thing is their weight, you can carry it all day and not feel like you are carrying an anvil.
 
nice man...you are a chopaholic ain't ya? i need to let you try the pack golok...
 
How's the shoulder feeling?

That's a great chop-off. The Megachax looks like a sweet blade! Is it yours or are you borrowing it?
 
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