Chopping comparison Videos .. Part 2

Haha Bite, there wasn't much Viking left in my arm last night, lol...
It was a good workout for sure.:/
 
I see you left room for some comments. I'd love to hear about your impressions of the MOAB vs Small Forest Axe in Vid #11. Looks like the axe took two more strokes to get through, but that was after your energy was a little depleted from swinging the MOAB. Looked to me like it could have been pretty close to dead even. :thumbup:

Also, I realize all of these comparisons were "anecdotal" rather than "controlled", but I really like that. It shows how far apart some blades are in performance, but also how much performance can be affected by technique and changes in the user's energy level depending on which blade was used first. That's much closer to real-world experience than trying to control everything to the "nth" degree. Thanks again, guys--great, great work!
 
One thing is for sure, fatigue is essential in many of these tests.
Another thing Lennox and I discussed, was that throwing all you have into the chops might not be the right method.
Actually I think many of the knives would perform better with a little less force and I little more control in each chop instead...
Better placement and better angles to the hit...

But it sure is a whole lot of fun and caveman-feeling going on when you whale a big honking blade at wood just to destroy it, lol......
 
Cold shower along with cold beer did the trick when I got home Hindsight...
We actually had 36 Celsius here that day. 96,5 Fahrenheit!!!!!!!?
That's even hotter than the place in Turkey where I'm going on vacation next week..!?
 
Will York said:
I see you left room for some comments. I'd love to hear about your impressions of the MOAB vs Small Forest Axe in Vid #11. Looks like the axe took two more strokes to get through, but that was after your energy was a little depleted from swinging the MOAB. Looked to me like it could have been pretty close to dead even. :thumbup:

Also, I realize all of these comparisons were "anecdotal" rather than "controlled", but I really like that. It shows how far apart some blades are in performance, but also how much performance can be affected by technique and changes in the user's energy level depending on which blade was used first. That's much closer to real-world experience than trying to control everything to the "nth" degree. Thanks again, guys--great, great work!
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Hmmmmm i had to check the Gransfors catalog, video 11 is the small forest axe and the one in video 9 that we have been calling small forest axe is actually called the Wilderness axe. But anyways,,,, my thoughts on the Small Forest Axe vs the MOAB on a 2x4,,, well the axe is about 9.8 oz lighter than the MOAB so the knife wins on weight but the axe has more length from the handle to the axe head than the MOAB has from it's handle to the sweet spot so i think, and it does feel like they deliver similar amounts of force. I believe the MOAB is a more effective chopper though, i have been using both the axe and the MOAB a lot on different tasks and the sweet spot on the MOAB is about 3 times the length of the edge on the axe, that being said, if you are working close to the ground and maybe in thick brush the axe is much more effective.

If i were to rate them as pure choppers and let's just say the MOAB is a 10 i would rate the axe at 8 or 9 :D

As soon as i find the time i will comment on the rest of the videos, questions are more than welcome though



Bobber said:
One thing is for sure, fatigue is essential in many of these tests.
Another thing Lennox and I discussed, was that throwing all you have into the chops might not be the right method.
Actually I think many of the knives would perform better with a little less force and I little more control in each chop instead...
Better placement and better angles to the hit...

But it sure is a whole lot of fun and caveman-feeling going on when you whale a big honking blade at wood just to destroy it, lol......
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Yupp we need to figure out how to do these tests without fatigue playing such a big role ,,,hmmmmmm how about a beer between blades ?? that should give the chopping arm sufficient rest, not sure it'll help with control though :D
 
""""we need to figure out how to do these tests without fatigue playing such a big role ,,,hmmmmmm how about a beer between blades ?? that should give the chopping arm sufficient rest, not sure it'll help with control though :D[/QUOTE]

You know we have tried that before Lennox, and I think Our chopping session in the dark dual wielding big blades after serious amounts of shine and beer, might have been a little more hairy than safe, LOL....
 
You know we have tried that before Lennox, and I think Our chopping session in the dark dual wielding big blades after serious amounts of shine and beer, might have been a little more hairy than safe, LOL....
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LOL LOL i completely forgot about that :D ok, i take it back,,,,, let's think of something else :playful:
 
Gotta figure out something, cause my arm felt like a telephonepole the next day, hahaha
 
Lennox said:
...the sweet spot on the MOAB is about 3 times the length of the edge on the axe...
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Makes sense--the axe bit has to hit the target with precision, but you don't have to "aim" the longer knife blade so precisely. Thanks for those thoughts, Len. :thumbup:
 
Awesome videos guys looks like a blast. The MOAB is beast but...the axe at least in my experience is less taxing to swing for a longer duration.
You can't beat swinging a big knife though when it comes to fun.

I've been traveling for work lately but you guys have inspired me to test my skinny MOAB this fall. I don't have a small forest axe but I do have the council tools hudson bay axe which is of similar size.
How long were you guys out chopping that day? Don't forget about the ASH1 comparison vid in your next outing I'm dieing to see that one.
 
Found this on page two..

How much vibration/shock do you feel in your arm/s when comparing knives vs. axes?
 
Béma;13799100 said:
Found this on page two..

How much vibration/shock do you feel in your arm/s when comparing knives vs. axes?
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I haven't really thought about it, but from what i can remember the axes deliver no shock or vibration at all, and in my opinion the same goes for the knives, but i will try to take more notice of this next time i chop. One thing i have found with the axes that i find a bit painful is that if you miss your mark a bit :very_drunk: and the handle twists counter clockwise while you hold on tight it feels a bit like you peel back the meat on your fingertips.
 
Worst part is actually the hands after such an intensive period of chopping, I was bleeding from to places when we finnished up....LOL
Not from cuts, but from the repeated motions the handles did while chopping (with the knives that is).
The axes don`t give your hands the same tye of beating, I think...
 
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