chopping

[arty]

I tested 3 Khuks briefly on 1/4" fir plywood.
12" sirupati
15 1/2" Kumar BAS Villager (21 3/8 oz)
17 Kumar Villager Sirupati

No surprise, the 12" hardly dented the 1/4" ply, even though it zipped right through some 1/8" ply packing material.
The 17" Sirupati actually cut a bit deeper than the BAS, even though it is lighter. It is only about 18 1/2 oz.
The length helps. I didn't want to mess up my shiney knives, but I may just try one of them next.

 

[BruiseLeee]

Next week on American Chopper.....




How deep did the BAS and Siru cut into the plywood? I gots to know.

 

[munk]

...next week on American Chopper.

Bruise, you just keep doing it- Hooray!! (translation- Bruise is funny)

speaking of which, I noticed I can't find American Shooter any more on TV but another show with Jim Scalon (sic?) in the same format is around. What happened?


munk

 

[arty]

I had the 1/4" plywood held vertically in a vise at the end of my workbench. I gave the stuff a reasonable hit, but I did not try anything like full-force or a very hard blow. I just wanted to guage what would happen.

I also tried my Bura BGRS - 17" and 24 oz
The Bura hit with much more authority, and went perhaps 2X as deep. This was only about 2", compared with about 1" or so with the lighter 15" and 17" knives. I am describing the depth of the wedge shaped notch in the plywood.

I am not counting splitting depth, but the BGRS does a much more effective job of chopping - this is not surprising. It is bigger and heavier than the BAS and much heavier than the Sirupati.

None of the knives showed any damage to the edge, but I didn't expect any.

 

[hdwrlover]

You've just confirmed more of what I found out when trying to chop some dried walnut and leylandi cypress about 2 weeks ago. Heavier is better - up to a point. I was using a 17", 26 oz. village AK with factory edge. Since I consider chopping the primary task for a khuk, that is what I want to maximize. I did buy one UBBB khuk under 15", but generally will avoid that. I'm sure that will make other sharks happy.

UB said he would put an order for me for a 22" GRS between 41 and 50 oz(if I remember correctly - have to recheck the e-mail). I don't know if I will like it but I would like to try it. I also asked if one could be made chiruwa/M43 style with full tang and pins. They said they would try. Not trying to cause a mutiny at Bir Gorkha, however.

 

[ibear]

...next week on American Chopper.

Bruise, you just keep doing it- Hooray!! (translation- Bruise is funny)

speaking of which, I noticed I can't find American Shooter any more on TV but another show with Jim Scalon (sic?) in the same format is around. What happened?


munk

Munk, how is the Gurkha Sirupate Kuhkuri knife different from the others? This blade seems a bit straighter and not as wide as other khukuri's. Why would this be a good/bad choice for most applications? Or for your own use? What do you think?
Thanks,
iBear

 

[ibear]

Next week on American Chopper.....



How deep did the BAS and Siru cut into the plywood? I gots to know.

Me too, I gots ta know too! How deep and how much more effective was it?

How much different was the Sirupate from the others? This blade seems a bit straighter and not as wide as other khukuri's. Why would this be a good/bad choice for most applications? Or for your own use? What do you think? HUH? I gots ta know!
Thanks,
iBear

 

[ibear]

I had the 1/4" plywood held vertically in a vise at the end of my workbench. I gave the stuff a reasonable hit, but I did not try anything like full-force or a very hard blow. I just wanted to guage what would happen.

I also tried my Bura BGRS - 17" and 24 oz
The Bura hit with much more authority, and went perhaps 2X as deep. This was only about 2", compared with about 1" or so with the lighter 15" and 17" knives. I am describing the depth of the wedge shaped notch in the plywood.

I am not counting splitting depth, but the BGRS does a much more effective job of chopping - this is not surprising. It is bigger and heavier than the BAS and much heavier than the Sirupati.

None of the knives showed any damage to the edge, but I didn't expect any.

Sirupati.

WOW!

That is impressive. Munk spends time chopping also! I would love to get some first hand experience in this regard! I think I'll invite Munk over and he can teach me!
How about it?
Smile,
iBear

 

[munk]

Ibear, avail yourself of the HI web page and read. It took me awhile to figure out what you were asking when you said Ghurka sirupate knife. There's lots of data on the Web site, and after that, check out the shopping site.

The Sirupate is a martial arts blade but can still do a day's work.



munk

 

[Yvsa]

The Sirupate is a martial arts blade but can still do a day's work.

munk

The Sirupate is a favorite among many of the Ghorka Soldiers, why I haven't a clue.
If my younger brother Finn were too drop in he could explain the weight/mass versus speed thing that I can understand but can't communicate in a really decent manner.
Basically a lighter knife can accumulate mass due to its speed compared to the mass and slower speed of a heavier khuk so that they are both equal or better in the severity of the cut at the end of the strike.

Personally methinks a lot of it depends on pure brute strength as well.
When I was stronger I could get a khuk too chop better than I can now in the result of more and larger chips on the ground at the end of a session.
I can still do all right I just don't have the stamina too keep at it very long.
That means I'm not apt too fool around but more apt too kill someone/thing quick.
And if I am cutting wood, too cut lighter and smaller thickness, not always a good thing when the wood is wet and you're trying too get down too the dry stuff inside. :grumpy:

 

[Dave Rishar]

The Sirupate is a favorite among many of the Ghorka Soldiers, why I haven't a clue.

My 20" Siru is rapidly becoming my do-all khuk, edging out the 16.5" AK; it does everything better except for knock-down, drag-out woodchip production but still comes close and clears brush much better. How often do I have to clear brush and small limbs? Often. Constantly, actually. How often do I have to drop, section, and split trees? Occasionally. Neither khuk is a maul, both are better than some hatchets. It's an easy choice for me...of course, I'm not a Ghorka. I'm sure that they have their own reasons for this.

I haven't done much chopping with the 12" but it's in the works.

 

[ibear]

Ibear, avail yourself of the HI web page and read. It took me awhile to figure out what you were asking when you said Ghurka sirupate knife. There's lots of data on the Web site, and after that, check out the shopping site.

The Sirupate is a martial arts blade but can still do a day's work.

munk

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I think I'll invite Munk over and he can teach me!
How about it?
Smile,
iBear

 

[ibear]

The Sirupate is a favorite among many of the Ghorka Soldiers, why I haven't a clue.
If my younger brother Finn were too drop in he could explain the weight/mass versus speed thing that I can understand but can't communicate in a really decent manner.
Basically a lighter knife can accumulate mass due to its speed compared to the mass and slower speed of a heavier khuk so that they are both equal or better in the severity of the cut at the end of the strike.

Personally methinks a lot of it depends on pure brute strength as well.
When I was stronger I could get a khuk too chop better than I can now in the result of more and larger chips on the ground at the end of a session.
I can still do all right I just don't have the stamina too keep at it very long.
That means I'm not apt too fool around but more apt too kill someone/thing quick.
And if I am cutting wood, too cut lighter and smaller thickness, not always a good thing when the wood is wet and you're trying too get down too the dry stuff inside. :grumpy:

Yvsa,
Good advice. I thank you. Your help is appreciated.

YES, I'm still learning. I actually bought a couple of khuks and here they sit... I have never chopped anything at all. I didn't want to dirty them up!
Thanks,
iBear

 

[ibear]

My 20" Siru is rapidly becoming my do-all khuk, edging out the 16.5" AK; it does everything better except for knock-down, drag-out woodchip production but still comes close and clears brush much better. How often do I have to clear brush and small limbs? Often. Constantly, actually. How often do I have to drop, section, and split trees? Occasionally. Neither khuk is a maul, both are better than some hatchets. It's an easy choice for me...of course, I'm not a Ghorka. I'm sure that they have their own reasons for this.

I haven't done much chopping with the 12" but it's in the works.

That is very interesting. Is it because of the weight that it is more effective for you?
I suppose that same principle would apply equally as well to most of us novices also.
Your post is appreciated. I see your up in Washington State. Originally I am from Oregon. We have been receiving all your rain down here. None for you left over.
Gawlee but we have been swamped!
Thanks,
iBear

 

[arty]

This time I tried the:
Kumar 19" Chitlangi - 21 1/2 oz
Sher 18 1/2" Chainpuri - 19 1/2 oz
Amtrak 15" Sirupati - 15oz

The target was 1/4" fir ply.

The Chainpuri is not a chopper - but it did much better than the 15" Sirupati. Both of these were surprisingly close to a heavy 15" BAS, but the effects were different. The blades seem thin in comparison.

I was surprised with the Chitlangi. It penetrated the ply (2-1/2") about as well as my Bura 17" BGRS (24oz). The Chitlangi hit with authority, and was a much better chopper than either the 15" 21 1/2 oz BAS or the 17" Sirupati.

The Chitlangi surprised me. It feels lighter than the BAS, but is much more blade, and a much better chopper than any of the lighter blades.

 

[Yvsa]

This time I tried the:
Kumar 19" Chitlangi - 21 1/2 oz
Sher 18 1/2" Chainpuri - 19 1/2 oz
Amtrak 15" Sirupati - 15oz

The target was 1/4" fir ply.

The Chainpuri is not a chopper - but it did much better than the 15" Sirupati. Both of these were surprisingly close to a heavy 15" BAS, but the effects were different. The blades seem thin in comparison.

I was surprised with the Chitlangi. It penetrated the ply (2-1/2") about as well as my Bura 17" BGRS (24oz). The Chitlangi hit with authority, and was a much better chopper than either the 15" 21 1/2 oz BAS or the 17" Sirupati.

The Chitlangi surprised me. It feels lighter than the BAS, but is much more blade, and a much better chopper than any of the lighter blades.

That's what I've told everyone from the beginning, "The Chitlangi chops like a much heavier khuk!" and it does.

 

[munk]

Yes, Ibear purchased a couple khuks at my urging when I found this place. He has not chopped a thing with them.
That is a sad waste.




munk

 

[mPisi]

speaking of which, I noticed I can't find American Shooter any more on TV but another show with Jim Scalon (sic?) in the same format is around. What happened?

I thought it was still on... or at least my wife was still harping about multiple things being recorded all the time She really regrets getting Outdoor Network and OLN added to the dish subscription for Xmas! BTW I believe it is Scoutten, he posts on several web boards including The High Road.

My favorite gun show is Shooting Gallery, it covers the action shooting sports and training that I'm into. I've met the host Michael Bane, he's a good guy.

 

[munk]

What name does he used on the High Road?



munk

 

[ibear]

Yes, Ibear purchased a couple khuks at my urging when I found this place. He has not chopped a thing with them.
That is a sad waste.

munk

Hey, you devoted chopper, I never claimed to possess your acclaimed ability and I have never promoted being a chopper. So there is my story of sad waste. I aspire to greater heights and someday I may transcend lifes trivial pursuits and ascend to the rank of chopper. But, alas and therefore,
I fear, not this day. Smile my friend and be of good cheer,
"The Sad Waster",
iBear