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[munk]

By the time I found Skeeter, he was almost gone. (remember, I started my life as a hippie, and did not recover from that affliction until I was sober at age 29)
I would like to see a collected works- and a book by Metcalf on the 41.

I enjoy Skeeter's son, a little bit more than Jim Wilson, who is OK.

I have some of the old skeeter stuff on Shooting Times I collected in garage sales and old book stores.


Elmer Keith to me is anti climatic. I like big bores but like the 270 too. I do believe he made some of those pistol shots he was later smirched at for even talking about. I've made similar shots on rocks in the desert.

Neither he nor OConnor were quite as careful about game as we are today. When the 41 was new, Keith blasted away at some dumb animal- I don't recall if it was Carribou or what, but he finally dropped it at 6 or 7 hundred yards if my memory isnt' too far off. And Eleanor OConnor kept shooting at this buck about to disapear over a ridge. Jack did that a couple times also- that he wrote about anyway.


munk

 

[ibear]

By the time I found Skeeter, he was almost gone. (remember, I started my life as a hippie, and did not recover from that affliction until I was sober at age 29)
I would like to see a collected works- and a book by Metcalf on the 41.

I enjoy Skeeter's son, a little bit more than Jim Wilson, who is OK.

I have some of the old skeeter stuff on Shooting Times I collected in garage sales and old book stores.


Elmer Keith to me is anti climatic. I like big bores but like the 270 too. I do believe he made some of those pistol shots he was later smirched at for even talking about. I've made similar shots on rocks in the desert.

Neither he nor OConnor were quite as careful about game as we are today. When the 41 was new, Keith blasted away at some dumb animal- I don't recall if it was Carribou or what, but he finally dropped it at 6 or 7 hundred yards if my memory isnt' too far off. And Eleanor OConnor kept shooting at this buck about to disapear over a ridge. Jack did that a couple times also- that he wrote about anyway.


munk

Some of those long shots are hardly responsible hunting. But, as you know, I would never attempt such shots. No way!

 

[ibear]

People will throw a little coal into their stoves. Not recomended. There's coal coming out of the ground up here.


munk

I believe you. Doesn't coal burn with residues and at a differrent temperature than wood? I think so.

 

[ibear]

Is your alter ego Sponge Bob Square Pants? I mean seeing as how you're still absorbing and all.

Sponge Bob is good! Yeah, I'm absorbing!
Smile,
iBear

 

[ibear]

I watch Sponge Bob daily.
I always thought childhood was for kids- not the advance moves of the mating ritual. But Nickolodean sells all this pre pre teen pop music- really disgusting stuff.

The goal of enlightened civilization- 12 year girls who act like they're 32.
And I keep expecting a break out scene between Sparticus and Stephanie on Lazy Town.
She's pre teen and he's the hero- in his twenties.

I should have started a seperate thread on all this. The wierdest thing of all is to be watching tv with your children and have an ad for an extended hard- on product - "For that quality experience- whenever he wants it."

All the feminine hygiene stuff was bad enough. I have to explain ovulation.

munk

I always thought childhood was for kids- not the advance moves of the mating ritual. But Nickolodean sells all this pre pre teen pop music- really disgusting stuff.

The goal of enlightened civilization- 12 year girls who act like they're 32. And I keep expecting a break out scene between Sparticus and Stephanie on Lazy Town. She's pre teen and he's the hero- in his twenties.

I should have started a seperate thread on all this. The wierdest thing of all is to be watching tv with your children and have an ad for an extended hard- on product - "For that quality experience- whenever he wants it."

All the feminine hygiene stuff was bad enough. I have to explain ovulation.
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Let me know when you have your next class....... I'll be right over! It's A Conspiracy Of Children To Get Back At Ya!

HeeeeeeeHaaaaa! GawwLeeeeee, you must be a father of children! No doubt!
Thanks,
iBear

 

[ibear]

When Carter was 3 or 4 I saw him studying grasshoppers connected together. I knew the jig was up.

munk

Kids catch on very quickly. After raising 7 children I sort of learned to expect anything. But, when my 5 year old skipped kindergarten, I was shocked. The teacher called and wondered where my son was? We panicked and went looking! Yeah, we found him on the merry go round, playing by himself.... He said he was just about ready to go to class. But, he wanted me to give him a push... one more time and then he would go to class. Gawwwleeee, his MOM was madder than I was. No I never told him, but, truthfully, I admired his individuality and his courage to do what I would never have dreamed of. He said the teacher only taught the ABC'S and he wasn't interested in all that... he wanted to learn to read. Go figure!
Thanks,
iBear

 

[ibear]

munk, please let me lift up the name of Skeeter Skelton, my favorite gunwriter of the '70's. Skeeter's fiction & fact were always just so readable... His books are out of print & hard to track down. But I will one day. Only last year I finally got a copy of "Hell, I was there!" by Elmer Keith.... on Amazon.

Knew I needed that one even after... oh... 30 yrs?

Anything written by Ian Hogg needs collecting too. Few that I have, I treasure. What that guy knew...


Ad Astra

Skeeter positively doted on the .357 Magnum. Probably because he lived most of his life in the desert southwest where many of the hunting "chores" (javelina, turkey and jack rabbits) were readily handled by the .357 Magnum. Skeeter Skelton was positively enamored with the .357 Magnum. Nor was he shy about declaring his preference in projectiles; while he generally preferred plain-based bullets for his big-bore shooting, he was resolute in his preference for gas-checked cast bullets in the .357 Magnum. Yeah, quite a fellow!

 

[Yvsa]

People will throw a little coal into their stoves. Not recomended. There's coal coming out of the ground up here.


munk

Why isn't it recommended Munk? We used too buy the hard coal, anthracite I think it's called. Burns hot and clean with little ash. The soft coals are polluters.

 

[munk]

Because most wood burning stoves are not built for coal. So, people cheat and throw in 'just a little'. I imagine it burns too hot.
You need a coal stove.



munk

 

[ibear]

Because most wood burning stoves are not built for coal. So, people cheat and throw in 'just a little'. I imagine it burns too hot.
You need a coal stove.



munk

Good point! I think good quality coal does burn hotter with slightly more waste residue than wood. Many of the wood stoves won't even handle wood very well, let alone a hotter burning coal. The high heat, over a fairly long time period, burns the bottom out of the stove.

My parents have had a wood burning furnace and or stove for all my life. They finally got rid of their wood burning stand up stove, because it just didn't last very long and after changing the plate in the bottom of the stove 5 times, they took it out and junked it! That was an expensive, highly recommened model of wood stove. My parents do the diligence to find out what is the best to buy.

In a large stove I could never understand why you could not line the bottom of the fire box with fire brick and save on the metal deterioration. My parents say that their was not enopugh room to do that in their stove. I said, dummy me, cut the brick in half and even though the brick is thinner, it will still help save the metal. But as usal, what dio I know, anyway? Most of the rest of my Oregon family has a fireplace and wood burning stove for heat and ambience.

My Uncle has a small round, funny looking stove he hooked into his fireplace and with that he heats his whole house. It is extremely efficient and the wood burns slowly when you crank the damper down to shut off the air flow. He swears by it as the best ever made.

However, the cheaper, low grade coal is definitely highly polluting because it does not burn clean. We have lots of that low grade stuff in Oregon. Those old mines closed years ago and now, they don't even mine this low grade, coal anymore. (YES, it's free, but who wants it?) Nobody bothers.
Thanks,
iBear

 

[ibear]

Why isn't it recommended Munk? We used too buy the hard coal, anthracite I think it's called. Burns hot and clean with little ash. The soft coals are polluters.

It burns hotter, I think and the coal leaves different residue waste than wood. Even in wood, Pine burns fairly dirty and the residues from pine will cause chimney fires. People that burn pine must clean their chimneys every few years or risk a fire.

I have cut hundreds of pine trees due West of Mayer Arizona, after the old fire burned thousands of acres in 1968. Yes I sold it all. The best woods have been harder woods such as oaK, madrone or maple. The softer woods such as juniper (a form of cedar), and here in the desert any citrus, as lemon, lime etc. seem to burn very well. In Oregon and Washington we burn a lot of Fir trees for heat.
Thanks,
iBear

 

[munk]

Actually, Ibear, if you let the fire burn real hot, it burns out the chiminey- I usually wait until there's snow everywhere because sparks can fly.

munk

 

[ibear]

Actually, Ibear, if you let the fire burn real hot, it burns out the chiminey- I usually wait until there's snow everywhere because sparks can fly.

munk

That doesn't work well with some pines. This is because there is excessive residue left over. The pitch build up is excessive. Some people won't burn pine for that reason. My fires are always real hot anyway, but I have always had a fireplace, not a stove or wood furnace. Some areas the pine bleeds mnore pitch than other areas. Arizona was really bad about that problem.
Thanks,
iBear

 

[munk]

The smoke stacks around here tend to be the double walled stainless steel tubes. Maybe a porous brick ala fireplace is worse.



munk

 

[Yvsa]

In Oregon and Washington we burn a lot of Fir trees for heat.

Thanks,
iBear

The short time I lived in Oregon in 1980 I burned a lot of Fir myself.

 

[Dave Rishar]

The short time I lived in Oregon in 1980 I burned a lot of Fir myself.

Alder seems to be the weapon of choice amongst my circle of aquaintences. Don't ask me - I know how to get a fire started but I'll be darned if I notice a difference between the woods, beyond whether it's wet or dry.

Thinking back to my childhood, my grandparents in Jersey had a coal stove for a short period during my life - it went away shortly after my long term memory started working. While I barely remember the stove, I remember the coal pile very well as it was there for a while longer.

My other grandparents (from the coal mining side of the house) spent most of their lives in Pennsylvania. By the time they made it to Jersey they no longer had a coal stove but they had plenty of stories about them. My favorites were of the Depression era; evidently, when the coal trains would stop for the night, the townsfolk would come out in droves to lighten the cars a bit on the sly. (While I never asked, I assume today that a watchman - if any - would've been a local and would've forgotten the incident by the next morning.) The men would shovel coal, the children would fill buckets and carry them home. If the work wasn't moving fast enough, there was a release mechanism on the back of the car to empty its contents onto the ground; an enterprising individual would sooner or later hit it, emptying the car completely and making the work go a little quicker. (And no doubt angering a good number of other folks in the process.)

They did mention on numerous occasions that anthracite was the way to go. It burned considerably hotter than the other stuff, evidently. As my grandfather used to describe it, burning coal made you warm twice: once while you were shovelling (or mining) it and again while you were burning it. We say the same thing about wood today.

I think back on these stories with no small amount of happiness. They seemed to relate a lot more of them towards the end - in particular, my grandfather, who would never talk about his experiences during WWII, talked about them quite a bit for the few weeks before he died. Both moved on very quickly and unexpectedly, and sometimes I wonder...did they know?

I was only a child and didn't pay as much attention as I should've; consequently, I don't remember all of them. I can accept their departure as the natural order of things but I have yet to forgive myself for my lapse of judgement. That's truly one of those things that I would've done differently, had I the option.

Sorry for the unexpected ramble there, but the thread brought up a few memories. Most of them are good.

 

[ibear]

The smoke stacks around here tend to be the double walled stainless steel tubes. Maybe a porous brick ala fireplace is worse.



munk

On that, I do not know. You are probably right. The porous surface may absorb more gum and pine tar. I do not know! Seems to make sense though!
Good thinking,
iBear

 

[ibear]

Alder seems to be the weapon of choice amongst my circle of aquaintences. Don't ask me - I know how to get a fire started but I'll be darned if I notice a difference between the woods, beyond whether it's wet or dry.

Thinking back to my childhood, my grandparents in Jersey had a coal stove for a short period during my life - it went away shortly after my long term memory started working. While I barely remember the stove, I remember the coal pile very well as it was there for a while longer.

My favorites were of the Depression era; evidently, when the coal trains would stop for the night, the townsfolk would come out in droves to lighten the cars a bit on the sly. I think back on these stories with no small amount of happiness. They seemed to relate a lot more of them towards the end - in particular, my grandfather, who would never talk about his experiences during WWII, talked about them quite a bit for the few weeks before he died. Both moved on very quickly and unexpectedly, and sometimes I wonder...did they know?

I was only a child and didn't pay as much attention as I should've; consequently, I don't remember all of them. I can accept their departure as the natural order of things but I have yet to forgive myself for my lapse of judgement. That's truly one of those things that I would've done differently, had I the option.

Sorry for the unexpected ramble there, but the thread brought up a few memories. Most of them are good.

Your apologies are not needed. Your comments are well received. Alder is also plentiful in Oregon, but, it burns fairly quickly and is not the wood of preference. Green alder also tends to absorb moisture for some reason. The harder woods burn longer and tend to be cleaner.
Thanks,
iBear

 

[ibear]

The short time I lived in Oregon in 1980 I burned a lot of Fir myself.

Fir is definitely the wood of choice for most Oregonians. Sometimes they get into a grove of oak and burn that, when they can find it. Finding oak is getting harder and harder. I suspect, soon it will be placed on a selected tree list to be protected if it is not already.
Thanks,
iBear

 

[Yvsa]

Alder is also plentiful in Oregon, but, it burns fairly quickly and is not the wood of preference. Green alder also tends to absorb moisture for some reason. The harder woods burn longer and tend to be cleaner.
Thanks,
iBear

Alder although being softer than most good BBQ/Smoking woods sure makes for a tasty smoke for meats and fish though. Me Likey.