Chris Reeve Electric......how many electricians are stripping wire with a Sebenza?

Ok how's this guys?



Still have to pick up one more connector for the 220 out, I forgot about it at the store and only got one big one.

Thanks for the assistance so far and for not being to hard on me :thumbup:
 
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I use sodbusters and sometimes an endura on the job.
 
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Cereal_killer said:
Ok how's this guys?



Still have to pick up one more connector for the 220 out, I forgot about it at the store and only got one big one.

Thanks for the assistance so far and for not being to hard on me :thumbup:
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I'm so glad you got help! I'm sorry I didn't offer up any specific advice at first, but I guess I figured I would just bring a whole lot of flaming down on myself. Glad to see you are not that sort of fellow, and also very glad some other forum members gave you some expert advice. Quality knives and quality people. I was foolish to doubt.
 
Any word on wire size / feed breaker size? The supply is the made from 4 8AWG stranded wires in a thick round rubber jacket- it's not romex but I have no idea what it is called, just some sort of really flexible cable and the breaker is a 40A, is that appropriate?

I can list exactly what the wire says on it if needed. Again its <6' from the main panel.
 
Looking much better C_K.

Techinically the 8/4 SO Cord is only rated at 35A being there are 3 current carrying conductors in the cable, but I think it should be fine being temporary and at a short distance. You should be okay with that.

Also is your welder a 120/240v or straight 240, if it's straight 240 you should move the ground wire to your newly installed ground bar.

And I should have mentioned if this before but, if you haven't worked with connectors before, you don't have to crank them all the way down til the screws won't budge, just tighten them enough so the cable will not move if you tug on it. Might be self explanatory but you never know.
 
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Looking much better C_K.

Techinically the 8/4 SO Cord is only rated at 35A being there are 3 current carrying conductors in the cable, but I think it should be fine being temporary and at a short distance. You should be okay with that.

Also is your welder a 120/240v or straight 240, if it's straight 240 you should move the ground wire to your newly installed ground bar.

And I should have mentioned if this before but, if you haven't worked with connectors before, you don't have to crank them all the way down til the screws won't budge, just tighten them enough so the cable will not move if you tug on it. Might be self explanatory but you never know.
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The welder's a Hobart 210MVP (multi-voltage), would it still be better to move the ground over to the ground bar or is it really ok where it is?


Btw I got the other connector I needed and got it all buttoned up (with the cover back on it and everything). :thumbup: Thank you all for the assistance!
 
Does a Journeyman lineman with a large Sebenza count? I have been using a large Sebenza at work a lot at work lately and people think I am crazy for doing so. It works great!
 
Steel_Addiction said:
Looking much better C_K.

Techinically the 8/4 SO Cord is only rated at 35A being there are 3 current carrying conductors in the cable, but I think it should be fine being temporary and at a short distance. You should be okay with that.

Also is your welder a 120/240v or straight 240, if it's straight 240 you should move the ground wire to your newly installed ground bar.

And I should have mentioned if this before but, if you haven't worked with connectors before, you don't have to crank them all the way down til the screws won't budge, just tighten them enough so the cable will not move if you tug on it. Might be self explanatory but you never know.
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I don't know that this information is accurate. I also haven't bought 2014 code book yet. I did just complete a code change class and there was no mention of changes to the ampacities table.
That being said, per the 2011 code, 8/4 SO is 90 degree cable and technically rated at 55 amps not more than three current carrying conductors.In this application we can only use the 75 degree rating because the lugs are only rated 75 degree. 50 amps at 75 degrees for 8/4 SO. If it is SJO it's rating would drop to 40 amps because it is 60 degree rated cable. No derating applicable as we only have three current carrying conductors. Beyond that a 40 amp breaker will only hold a continuous load up to 32 amps before tripping.
 
You have to jump over to Article 400 "Flexible cords and cables" and then use Table 400.5(A) for So cable, Can't use table 310.16 (2011 nec) or 310.15(B)(16) since there is no SO or SJO or SOOW in the table.

Looking at Table 400.5 going to a 8 AWG and over to column "A" since there are 3 current carrying conductors (Column B is for 2 ccc) shows 35 Amps.

Article 240.4(b) allows you to use the next size higher standard overcurrent device, but since a 35 Amp breaker exists you are required to put it on a 35amp breaker.

Also a 40 amp breaker should hold 39 amps for exteneded periods of time, (you would have to look at the manufactures time/current curve) but in the nec you are allowed to load a circuit breaker to 80% of it's rating which is 32 amps.
 
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You have to jump over to Article 400 "Flexible cords and cables" and then use Table 400.5(A) for So cable, Can't use table 310.16 (2011 nec) or 310.15(B)(16) since there is no SO or SJO or SOOW in the table.

Looking at Table 400.5 going to a 8 AWG and over to column "A" since there are 3 current carrying conductors (Column B is for 2 ccc) shows 35 Amps.

Article 240.4(b) allows you to use the next size higher standard overcurrent device, but since a 35 Amp breaker exists you are required to put it on a 35amp breaker.

Also a 40 amp breaker should hold 39 amps for exteneded periods of time, (you would have to look at the manufactures time/current curve) but in the nec you are allowed to load a circuit breaker to 80% of it's rating which is 32 amps.
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Schooled!!!!!!!
I knew I was missing something but didn't have a code book handy.
 
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That scares me a little. Also wires need to be secured as they enter and exit the box so as if they got pulled they don't pull the box off, that is providing you had clamps on them.
 
Mechanic/fabricator/electrician/millwright/machinist/pipefitter and anything else related to building/manufacturing, I use my Sebenza for stripping wire, scraping gaskets, deburring pvc and light tin.

It's a work knife I'm not abusing it.
 
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