CKCA Lung Cancer Research Benefit Knife-2010

Kevin Jones

Kevin Jones

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I'm very pleased to announce that our 2010 Collaborative Knife Project to benefit lung cancer research is well underway.

This aprox. 13" OAL Semi-Integral Fighter of CPM-154 is graciously being created by CKCA members Edmund Davidson, Barry Lee Hands, Steve Johnson and Wolfgang Loerchner. Paul Long will again make the sheath.
Chuck Ward will again take the photos and design/create the promotional materials.

A big thanks to each of our team members.

Basically, the tasks have been/will be completed as follows:

Edmund Davidson - machining/profiling of knife

Steve Johnson - grinding/polishing/maker's mark

Barry Lee Hands - engraving

Wolfgang Loerchner - handle

Paul Long - the sheath

Chuck Ward - photography/promotional material creation

Blade Magazine will produce an article on our benefit knife which will appear in their 2010 Blade Show Issue.

As many of you know, each year the contribution from the CKCA's benefit knife goes to a different Cancer Research Foundation. This year's recipient is the Lungevity Foundation. http://events.lungevity.org/site/PageServer

The Lungevity Foundation is a Four Star rated (highest rating) charitable organization dedicated to raising funds for lung cancer research.

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The 2010 CKCA Collaborative Knife to benefit lung cancer research has been finished.

This aprox. 13" OAL Semi-Integral Fighter of CPM-154 has graciously been created by CKCA members Edmund Davidson, Barry Lee Hands, Steve Johnson and Wolfgang Loerchner and Paul Long. Chuck and Mary Ward have taken the photos and designed/created the promotional materials.

A big thanks to each of our team members.

Basically, the tasks have been/will be completed as follows:

Edmund Davidson - machining/profiling of knife
Steve Johnson - grinding/polishing/maker's mark
Barry Lee Hands - engraving
Wolfgang Loerchner - handle
Paul Long - the sheath
Chuck Ward - photography/promotional material creation

Blade Magazine will produce an article on our benefit knife which will appear in their 2010 Blade Show Issue.

As many of you know, each year the contribution from the CKCA's benefit knife goes to a different Cancer Research Foundation. This year's recipient is the Lungevity Foundation. http://events.lungevity.org/site/PageServer

The Lungevity Foundation is a Four Star rated (highest rating) charitable organization dedicated to raising funds for lung cancer research.

Here's our process/rules for awarding this beautiful knife:

• We will offer 200 tickets @ $100.00 per ticket.

• CKCA members get a 24 hour advance window ahead of the general public to purchase tickets. Said CKCA members can purchase tickets on-line via CKCA website on Monday May 31 @ 6:00pm EST – Tuesday June 1 6:00pm EST. CKCA members can also purchase tickets via cash or check on Thursday June 3 from 6:00PM-10:00pm at the CKCA Banquet in Atlanta.

Tickets will go on sale to the general public on Friday morning June 4 @ 11:00am at the CKCA Booth located in the lobby of the Blade Show in Atlanta and on-line via the CKCA website*. http://www.customknifecollectorsassociation.com/Benefit_knife.html

*note: though unlikely, it's possible due to CKCA member advance purchases that tickets could sell-out prior to being available to the general public on June 4.

• A limit of 10 tickets can be purchased per person.

• Our Drawing will take place at the AG Russell Knife Event 2010 at the CKCA Booth on Saturday July 31 in Rogers Arkansas. Exact time to be announced.

AG Russell / AG Russell knives has agreed to manage the raffle drawing process by verifying the ticket accounting and actually drawing the winning ticket at his show.
 
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Kevin, is there a decision as to how this amazing knife will be
sold or auctioned?

When exactly and where will this take place?

All the best,
David Darom (ddd)
 
ddd said:
Kevin, is there a decision as to how this amazing knife will be
sold or auctioned?

When exactly and where will this take place?

All the best,
David Darom (ddd)
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The CKCA's goal is to give as many as possible an opportunity to acquire/win this very substantial knife while fulfilling a responsibility to raise as much money as possible for the Lungevity Foundation.

Having said that, the CKCA board has been discussing for several weeks now whether an auction or a raffle will be best utilized for reaching our goal.

If an auction is decided upon, it would take place at this year's Blade Show and would not only entertain bidding by those in attendance but via phone and on-line bidders as well. And there would most likely be a reserve.

A raffle would most likely be conducted very similar to last year's, however with the possibility of a more creative process. As of this weekend, we tend to be leaning more towards a raffle with a higher contribution per ticket, however limiting the quantity of tickets offered. This would help insure a substantial contribution to the Lungevity Foundation, give more folks a chance to participate (as compared to an auction) and dramatically increase the chance to win per contribution. Raffle tickets would be offered worldwide starting at a specific date and time.

Regardless, of how the knife is offered, it will be introduced on Thursday June 3 @ 6:00pm est at the CKCA banquet/annual meeting at the Blade Show.

We are on a very tight time schedule as the knife has to be completed and photographed in time to meet the deadline for Blade Magazine's 'Blade Show Issue'. As a result of this, Barry Lee Hands was so dedicated to keeping the project on schedule that he engraved the knife while vacationing in California. Talking about a nice and relaxed work environment. :D ;)

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Sounds exciting Kevin. Thanks!

All the best,
David Darom (ddd)
 
I'm really excited to see this one. Great line up of dedicated craftsmen again this year. I cant wait to see how it turns out. I think an auction would be the best money maker. This knife is getting some genuine press time and may be the "Gem" of the Blade Show. An on-line auction will open up some world wide buyers that cant attend or wouldnt buy raffle tickets. Remember some of the amounts from the Chicago Show auction? Wow!
 
Bruce Bump said:
I'm really excited to see this one. Great line up of dedicated craftsmen again this year. I cant wait to see how it turns out. I think an auction would be the best money maker.
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Bruce is right about an auction being the best money maker, no doubt about it.

BUT....a raffle is a fairer proposition, and will put the knife into the "luckiest" person's hands, rather than the richest person. I always liked that about the CKCA cancer charity knives...there was something inherently "righter" about the way the knife got to the "buyer".

Now that I have said that, it will probably be decided to do an auction, probably sold to Ed Wormser or some other fat cat...nothing wrong with that either, I guess.

This is going to be an incredible knife, regardless, and all those donating time, money and energy are to be commended.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Kohai999 said:
BUT....a raffle is a fairer proposition, and will put the knife into the "luckiest" person's hands, rather than the richest person. I always liked that about the CKCA cancer charity knives...there was something inherently "righter" about the way the knife got to the "buyer".

Now that I have said that, it will probably be decided to do an auction, probably sold to Ed Wormser or some other fat cat...nothing wrong with that either, I guess.
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That is a very considerate proposition. Good one, and well said Steven:thumbup::cool:
 
As the purpose of the CKCA benefit projects is to support cancer research, to help increase custom knife awareness in the general public and to create excitement/enjoyment/unity within the collectible knife community, we feel we have a responsibility to both the cancer research foundation we are supporting and the custom knife community. So to Steven's point we are working to come up with a process which will maximize our contribution while giving both those with 'mega' and 'modest' collections a chance to acquire this knife. I believe we are about there, however if anyone has opinions/suggestions please feel free to share.

The CKCA takes these projects very seriously, from choosing the foundations to which we contribute to choosing our process for offering the knife. Larry Bailey (our vice president) does much research and communication in finding organizations which have a fine track record and will best utilize our contribution towards cancer research. Him and I discuss our candidates, rule out some and present a couple recommendations to the board, who then decide on our recipient. The CKCA actually has a 'board member' sub-forum on our forum where we have ongoing discussion on these types of topics.

Speaking of commitment and taking the project serious, Steve Johnson has obviously been very busy getting knives ready for the ECCKS the last couple weeks. However that didn't stop him from spending a LOT of time not just grinding/sanding on the knife, but communicating and getting the "mark" stencil designed/created, scheduling the heat treat and lining up the engraving with Barry. Same with Edmund and Barry. I can't tell you how impressed I am with these guys and I'm really looking forward to Wolfe getting this knife very soon and I know I will be equally impressed with him.

Also, I would like to announce that Bruce Bump agreed some weeks ago to be help make and manage our 2011 CKCA cancer research knife. Steven Rapp will also partisipate. We start setting up these projects about 18 months in advance.

Sorry to go on so, however I feel the more information presented the more apt folks are to participate in this very worthwhile project.

We will update this thread with information and progress photos as the project progresses.
 
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Kohai999 said:
This is going to be an incredible knife, regardless, and all those donating time, money and energy are to be commended.
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So moved! I think we will all vote (and drink) to that. Really appreciate the efforts involved in this annual project! :thumbup: Look forward to its completion.

- Joe
 
Originally posted by Kohai999:

Bruce is right about an auction being the best money maker, no doubt about it.

BUT....a raffle is a fairer proposition, and will put the knife into the "luckiest" person's hands, rather than the richest person. I always liked that about the CKCA cancer charity knives...there was something inherently "righter" about the way the knife got to the "buyer".

Now that I have said that, it will probably be decided to do an auction, probably sold to Ed Wormser or some other fat cat...nothing wrong with that either, I guess.

This is going to be an incredible knife, regardless, and all those donating time, money and energy are to be commended.
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I agree with STeven on this.

I would like to see a raffle, maybe with higher ticket prices. It would be nice if average collectors got a chance to own a knife made by these really great makers.

Jim Treacy
 
Kohai999 said:
Bruce is right about an auction being the best money maker, no doubt about it.

BUT....a raffle is a fairer proposition, and will put the knife into the "luckiest" person's hands, rather than the richest person. I always liked that about the CKCA cancer charity knives...there was something inherently "righter" about the way the knife got to the "buyer".
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very true. i used to buy raffle tickets for one or two hundred dollars, didn't win, but wasn't sad about the spent bucks because they went to an organization that is worth to be supported.

i won't even consider to bid on the next knife, the price will be far beyond my financial resources. bad for me, good for cancer research, as long as an auction brings more money than raffle tickets.

best regards,
hans
 
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brightred said:
very true. i used to buy raffle tickets for one or two hundred dollars, didn't win, but wasn't sad about the spent bucks because they went to an organization that is worth to be supported.

i won't even consider to bid on the next knife, the price will be far beyond my financial resources. bad for me, good for cancer research, as long as an auction brings more money than raffle tickets.

best regards,
hans
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My sentiments exactly. I will always buy raffle tickets in a raffle, but would never participate in the auction.

Best,

Bob
 
I too agree with hans and Bob.

I know that I would buy raffle tickets for several
hundred dollars as a donation for the cause.

I say this because I know that I shall not win the
knife as I NEVER (never ever) WIN ANYTHING IN RAFFLES...

All the best,
David Darom (ddd)
 
Its a tough call, make a ton of money or make a ton of people happy. We had the same decision to make with our Jamaica Playground Equipment fund raiser sub hilt knife. We chose to make people happy. The gentleman that won only spent $20 on tickets. It was fair, fun and a blessing at the same time.
 
^^^ Raffle all the way. Even if I don't 'win', I won and contributed.

One auction winner = leaves hundreds of willing contributors out of the loop.

Coop
 
Thank you for all the input. As said earlier, the board is leaning towards a raffle constructed to most maximize our contribution. We have been conducting a poll among CKCA members over the last couple days and the response is overwhelming in support of a raffle of some sort.
 
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I will throw my two cents in. I think a raffle is definitely the way to go. Far more inclusive. As talked about the bar should be reasonably high, but not prohibitive. Someone suggested maybe $100.00 per ticket, 3 for $150.00, something like that. I think the CKCA will raise a lot of money either way but the raffle seems to be more accessible for all.

Jon
 
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