CKRT Woes...Partial Review

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Over the last couple of years my EDC has been both a CKRT Ignitor, and a CKRT M-21 which I both purchased new. I know there's much better knives out there, but for me they have held up pretty well so I've always kinda distrusted the distaste I read that people have for them. Well recently I made some finds at the pawnshop of all places that made me question just what you're buying with a CKRT.

1st find was another M-21!!!
Normally I wouldn't buy the exact same knife but when I saw it for only $20 (cad) and I paid around $100 (Cad) I had to grab it.
Taking it home I realized that the $20 one was much older and sadly it's way better made then the one I bought new. The older one is marked Taiwan and things like the groves on the flipper are much better cut and the screws and finish are higher quality. The one I've bought is most likely made in china and is just not the same at all despite looking identical from a distance. I ended up giving the older one to my Father so we both have the same knife.

2nd Find was a CKRT Pinapple. Again it was only $20 so I had to have it. At first I loved the size and shape and I was really happy with it. But this knife has a major flaw!!!. The belt clip is on the opposite end of the blade. At first you will think this is a good idea as you can draw it faster, and you will wonder why not all knives are like this. But what happens is that it opens up on you inside your pocket, and I've cut myself severely 2x now reaching in my pocket for it and no longer feel safe with it.

3rd find is a CKRT Homefront.
I was able to buy this from the pawn shop for only $20 because they thought it was broken(blade had major wobble). But this might be the worse CKRT knife yet!

First of all this knife is a gimmick. The whole idea of it is that it's supposed to easily come apart and back together again without the use of any tools for cleaning. But is that idea worth $150? NO!

Lets get the first two major IMHO design flaws out of the way.

1) The belt clip is on the opposite end of the blade. If you read the above about the Pineapple then you will know how I feel about it. Maybe the shape and the length might make it safer but I'm not sure I want to find out.

2) It has a cheap stupid thin liner lock for a $150 dollar knife. Seriously I've seen much better liner locks on much cheaper knifes which doesn't build any confidence in the knife.

Now lets talk about the major flaw of this knife...I needed to use tools to put it back together which defeats the whole purpose.
I'm pretty mechanical and it took me close to 30mins to get this thing back together. First a tiny bit of dirt had seized the locking lever. Then the guide pin was sticking out too much and it actually fell out when I took the knife apart (Hows that for QC?) I tapped it in with a punch. But the knife still didn't want to go back together. For some reason taking the screw that holds the post in allowed it to finally click back together.

Finally I feel like this knife just isn't sturdy as a $150 knife should be, and my much cheaper CKRT knives like the ignightor and M-21 are much better finished and much stronger. The other problem is it's a knife I wouldn't want to hand someone as they might think that lever locks the blade closed and you are stuck fiddling with it again to try to get it to snap together again.

Well maybe someday I'll find a nice Spyderco or Benchmark...But I think I'm at the point it's time to move up.
 
The only experiences Ive had with CRKT is their James williams designs, particularly the otonashi noh ken, which was an awesome knife IMO, and their expensive fixed blades, the shinbu and sakimori (sp?) Both of which are phenominal, except the fuchi on them is plastic which irks me at their price point.

I think CRKT has some really awesome designs, and I think I've been lucky with the models ive chosen from them. But I've heard people have big issues with CRKTs overall quality. They're certainly not a good value, materials to product price.
 
As the unofficial and self-appointed CRKT fanboy, I should stick my oar in. But stonproject said it pretty well, already.

Columbia River's quality control is indifferent, and their prices are... optimistic. Luckily, they don't set prices for retailers. Yet.

The problem is the same across their entire line of products. Seems to me that about one out of every ten knives has some major issue (edge retention, lockup, fit and finish, etc.).
 
The only experiences Ive had with CRKT is their James williams designs, particularly the otonashi noh ken, which was an awesome knife IMO, and their expensive fixed blades, the shinbu and sakimori (sp?) Both of which are phenominal, except the fuchi on them is plastic which irks me at their price point.

I think CRKT has some really awesome designs, and I think I've been lucky with the models ive chosen from them. But I've heard people have big issues with CRKTs overall quality. They're certainly not a good value, materials to product price.

The Otonashi Noh Ken is also $150 like the Homefront, but IMHO looks like a much better knife then the Homefront. For one thing the Otonashi Noh Ken has a decent sized liner lock on it for the price.
 
The Otonashi Noh Ken is also $150 like the Homefront, but IMHO looks like a much better knife then the Homefront. For one thing the Otonashi Noh Ken has a decent sized liner lock on it for the price.

The ONK is a frame lock, not a liner lock. I own a ONK and a Tighe Tac Two, both neat knives, I just wish they had a premium line, a Tighe Tac Two Tanto with a nested Titanium Liner Lock and a more premium blade (and larger) would be awesome. Both knives work well and are pretty decent, but to me, you buy CRKT for the designs not the materials or the fit and finish.
 
The ONK is a frame lock, not a liner lock. I own a ONK and a Tighe Tac Two, both neat knives, I just wish they had a premium line, a Tighe Tac Two Tanto with a nested Titanium Liner Lock and a more premium blade (and larger) would be awesome. Both knives work well and are pretty decent, but to me, you buy CRKT for the designs not the materials or the fit and finish.

That’s CRKTs style. Taking great custom designs and building them like crap.
 
The only CRKT knife i have is a cheap $20 Squid and I really like it. It has good fit and finish for the price and the design looks very friendly, no one freaks out when i use it.
 
The only CRKT knife i have is a cheap $20 Squid and I really like it. It has good fit and finish for the price and the design looks very friendly, no one freaks out when i use it.

That's actually not a bad looking knife for the money.
 
I wouldn't pass judgement on 3 pawn shop knives. The home front isn't known for the issues your pawn shop knife has. Why did you buy them? To knock crkt? Probably could of spent the money on something you would like.
 
I wouldn't pass judgement on 3 pawn shop knives. The home front isn't known for the issues your pawn shop knife has. Why did you buy them? To knock crkt? Probably could of spent the money on something you would like.

Well like I said I had two CRKT that I bought new and have been using for a couple of years now and have been pretty happy. So when I saw these 3 knives at such a low price I just couldn't say no to them. Heck I don't think I could say no to any decent brand name knife at those prices.

I think the problem for me is I can't help think in the back of my mind especially with the Homefront is what if I had paid full retail for this? It's one thing to be disappointed over a $20 knife but it's another to be disappointed over a $150. I can't help but compare it to other Knives like Benchmark which where I live has really come down in price and can actually be had for much cheaper with the lower end models.
 
IMHO I think that the CRKT S2 series is one of the best knives they made. Ti and ATS34 made in Taiwan for CRKT. Even though long discontinued they are still available on the bay for about the same price as when they first came out. Sometimes they can be found NIB at great prices.
 
That’s CRKTs style. Taking great custom designs and building them like crap.
:mad: Exactly ! That's the maddening thing about CRKT . They are fantastic in finding great inventive and innovative new design concepts that I get all excited about ...until I start reading the reviews of the actual product , which is often worthless junk . Poor materials , bad QC , and overpriced .

It's really a crying shame , because the basic ideas often seem great and should be workable if done right . :(:thumbsdown:
 
Well...I just about bought another CRKT today. I know that might sound silly after the three reviews I just gave. But I thought I would check out their website after reading some comments here, and well they have two nice looking knives in their outlet section. One being the argus and the other the GSD at a huge discount. The problem is that I live in Canada and I don't think they will sell a knife here
 
The GSD is easy to love in photos, but the knife itself is super heavy, keep that in mind.

I try not to be a fanboy of any brand, but I really do like CRKT. Some of my favorite knives come from them. Some are not perfect and have flaws and I could get nitpicky and list every one of those, but one thing they have nailed is the action. Every one of them feels great to open/close. From the Shenanigan to the outrage, I am usually happy with my purchases from CRKT.
 
Whats a thread without pictures? :D

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I have a fabulous CRKT Hi Jinx, Blade Magazine OVERALL Knife for 2014. Unfortunately there were only a very few made. CRKT sells some great knives, IMHO.


 
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I have 5 CRKT folders, so my comment is intended only for the 5 that I have.

I just want to note about comments regarding crappy materials. The 5 steels used in the 5 blades are listed as:
Two with 8Cr14MoV (HRC 58-59)
Acuto + (HRC 59-60)
Acuto 440 (HRC 57-58)
German 1.4116 (HRC 56-58)
12C27 Sandvik (HRC 59-61)

I bought the 5 for their looks, size, blade shapes and deployment. No disappointments yet.
 
The GSD is easy to love in photos, but the knife itself is super heavy, keep that in mind.

I try not to be a fanboy of any brand, but I really do like CRKT. Some of my favorite knives come from them. Some are not perfect and have flaws and I could get nitpicky and list every one of those, but one thing they have nailed is the action. Every one of them feels great to open/close. From the Shenanigan to the outrage, I am usually happy with my purchases from CRKT.

I figure that there must be some reason they are blowing these out. With the argus I figure that it's like my ignitor wheres there this trick you have to know to open it. Once you know it there's no problem. But I have handed the knife to friends and they struggle to open it. But if it's cheap enough I will take the risk.
 
BASP - Why be so shy? Your comments are worthy of stating in a knife forum. You won't hurt anyone's feels I assure you. This is a tough bunch of knife aficionados.
 
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