Clearly a ripoff, but for 100$ less

[robertmegar]

cut-out where the LAWKS switch/nob would be on the CRKT Crawford/Kasper model, yet it doesn't have the LAWKS switch/nob. Is it possible that the company manufacturing this POS has the mold from the CRKT model?

They have probably copied the scales pattern castint the original.... so its really a cut/paste/rip-off deal.

 

[whitedragon_48]

Its reallly sad. SHAME!

 

[3Guardsmen]

They have probably copied the scales pattern castint the original.... so its really a cut/paste/rip-off deal.

That should make it an open and shut case for CRKT to go after them! Thanks, Robert.

3Guardsmen

 

[rottwang]

The pin that stops the blade as you bring it into the open position doesn't go through the liners on the handles. using the wave feature weakens this pin. It's worthless.

 

[Hair]

I've heard great things about the new Smith and Wesson camo karambit--which is different than their old, this is a framelock apparently. I've been wanting to play with one after being a bit dissapointed by Spyderco's interpretation. I think the S&W is 30ish.

I have one. It is good for the 20 bucks I spent on it. I don't have a lot of good things to say about S&W knives in general, but the framelock camo Karambit has a strong lock and very good fit and finish. The thing that sucks about it is the steel, but as someone else mentioned in this thread, sometimes I buy cheap knives to add a certain knife genre to my collection but have little intention to actually use it. In this case, a karambit. I don't have much want or need for a karambit, so I don't want to spend a lot on one. But I do want to fill the "karambit" hole in my collection, so the S&W is perfect. If someone actually wants a karambit, I would suggest a superior karambit, and not the S&W. For someone that wants to add a karambit to their collection, or to try out the blade style before getting an expensive karambit, the S&W is perfect. It is a good quality knife, on par (fit and finish-wise) with all of the Spydies, BMs, Kershaws, Bucks, CRKTs, and Gerbers I have owned/used in the 10-70 dollar price range. It is just the blade steel that makes it inferior to, say, a Native. But if you don't plan on using it much, that is not an issue.

Believe it or not, some people do buy knives knowing they will not use it much. I have so many knives and so few things to cut that I have MANY knives I have never used. In a way, it is foolish to pay for more edge retention than you need. But I still spend a lot of money on S30V.

 

[Franciscomv]

If you're foolish enough to buy a $16 liner lock from a company with known shakey QC, your fingers deserve the consequences, IMO.

Furthermore, that knife isn't just vaguely Emerson-like, it's a copy. Not just of the design, but a violation of emerson's patent on the Wave as well. Supporting these dirtballs is basically saying you support shady manufacturers stealing American ideas and building them on foreign soil.

Thought I'd be frank and forthright on this one. For a using knife, there's a quality level below which no price reduction can make up for, and by almost 100% of the reports I've seen of this knife, it's below that level. And Emerson himself has appealed to honest knife knuts not to support those who are stealing his property. My suggestion is to both keep our fingers safe and not reward thieves (and do support the folks who are innovating things in our hobby), by not buying this knife.

As Keith pointed out, in a cooler-headed manner than me, there's an ethical question here you'll have to sort out for yourself, aside from the obvious issue of what kind of quality you demand.

Joe

Amen, brother!
We shouldn't support thieves. If you want a cheaper WAVE knife, the new Endura 4 is supossed to be offered with a WAVE soon, and you can be sure that Sal is paying Emerson royalties.