Clip Point or Drop Point on the 110?

[chickentrax]

...I meant you should make one for each of us because you know you want to do it..."

Quite true. And I did it. Next idea?

I meant it about the idea of a dual-blade 110 being brought up before. I know, because I brought it up. And there was only 3 or 4 others who thought it was a cool idea. So AFAIK, it died a quiet death at Buck.

 

[rhino]

Quite true. And I did it. Next idea?

I meant it about the idea of a dual-blade 110 being brought up before. I know, because I brought it up. And there was only 3 or 4 others who thought it was a cool idea. So AFAIK, it died a quiet death at Buck.

Yeah, I remember. Do you think maybe it's because it appeals less to the collector-types, and more to the user-types, and the latter group is less likely to part with the kind of cabbage necessary to acquire such an implement of cutting destruction?

It seems like a lot of makers have made two and three blade large folders, usually as a hunting tool. There must be a market for them??

 

[pjsjr]

I don't have a dual blade...so I don't speak from experience. I saw several posts where owners of the 110-112 transition stated that the knife was real heavy and bulky.

I question the utility of either one of the dual blades over the other. I haven't been in a situation where I was using a clip point and said "I sure wish I had a drop point". Be interested to know if someone has and what that situation was.

I like the uniqueness of the 110-112 and Trax's combo and wish I had bought one when they came out...Trax mine must be lost in the mail . Preston

 

[Pack Rat]

I don't have a dual blade...so I don't speak from experience. I saw several posts where owners of the 110-112 transition stated that the knife was real heavy and bulky.

The 110/112 weighs 11-12 ounces on my dinky analog scales. An Alpha 277 folder weighs 8 ounces on same scales.

Alpha is slightly thicker than the 110/112. The transistion knife was shipped in an Alpha 276 codura sheath that is the horizontal/vertical one.

Standard 110 is listed on the Buck site as 7.2 ounces.

I haven' t ever wished for a Drop when using a Clip.

 

[DarrylS]

I question the utility of either one of the dual blades over the other. I haven't been in a situation where I was using a clip point and said "I sure wish I had a drop point". Be interested to know if someone has and what that situation was.

...I'm kinda thinking that the "Transition Folder" wasn't made up so much for it's practicality as much as it was as a commemoration of the two classic folders made by Buck and to the move to Idaho from California. I recall when Trax made his suggestion on the folder and how he undertook to make one of his own incorporating variations that were floating around in his head. He put a ton of work into his project and let us all follow him through the steps as he progressed to completion. His 110 CP/ DP version and his 110/112 version were done very nicely indeed and the 110 CP/DP version wasn't even put out by Buck for him to use a a model. Both of them are more or less testaments to the knives he liked and to his ability to undertake something and follow it through. He is the reason I started to do the variations of the 112 that I liked and they could be called my testament to his work and inspiration to me. I don't know if I'd ever want a combination like the "Transition" for actual practical purposes...but it will always be one that I would like to have for the reasons I mentioned earlier. Perhaps if I can get the proper equipment together down the road I might even attemt to make one as Trax did...using his step by step advice that he was nice enough to leave for us all...:thumbup:

 

[pjsjr]

Larry, Darryl and your other brother thanks for the info. The weight and size comparision is interresting...a friend bought the Alpha folder and I was suprised at the girth of it. Changed my mind about acquiring one. However one without the scales does appeal to me, maybe with some special metal treatment.

Trax does some great work, I'm jealous and admire him much for his creativity and skill...and answered alot of questions for me when he was posting his step-by-step. I would have liked to tried something like that but realized that the learning curve and equipment was more than I wanted to undertake.

I guess yours was lost in the mail also . Preston

 

[Pack Rat]

I'm like you Preston, learning curve and tools , and not needing another hobby. Not to mention the skills of Trax and Darryl. I haven't even figured out how to take a 110 apart yet without tearing something up.... Hummm,,, maybe thats it...

 

[pjsjr]

...and it most likely wouldn't only be the 110, when I do something like that I can really, really, really mess everything up. I'd fear for my well being. Preston

 

[DarrylS]

I haven't even figured out how to take a 110 apart yet without tearing something up.... Hummm,,, maybe thats it...

...LOL...rodent...the first 110 I ever took apart is still sitting in a bag with all the parts. I bent the bolster/liners so bad, and destroyed the scales in taking out the rivets, that it's gonna take me quite a while to straighten it out so I can get some new scales and a blade on it. It's been in that bag for ages it seems...just can't find the time these days...

 

[Pack Rat]

I think my thing is I just don't have a 110 I want to tear up..

But... I was just sitting here playing with this alpha folder and looking at what Preston said about its girth. Pulled the rubber handles off and played with it some but then it felt too thin.

Put the handles back on and noticed the screws are countersunk 1/16 inch give or take. Wouldn't be too hard to shave each handle down to the top of the screw. Or maybe shaving the palm side and then finger groving the fingers side to match your finger grip. An eight of an inch off might be a noticable difference.

All you could mess up there are a pair of $7 replaceable grips. Might be something to do when I am out sitting in the deer stand waiting on bambi's great granddaddy to come along.

Note to self,,,throw a small diameter round file in the back pack

 

[DarrylS]

...That's how modifyin' Buck knives starts Larry...First the scales get shaved...then the liners get fileworked and on and on and on... LMBO ...If ya have a Harbor Freight near ya they have lotsa tools yer gonna need in the future...LOL...

 

[Pack Rat]

...That's how modifyin' Buck knives starts Larry...First the scales get shaved...then the liners get fileworked and on and on and on... LMBO ...If ya have a Harbor Freight near ya they have lotsa tools yer gonna need in the future...LOL...

There is a HF about 40 miles or so. But there is a Northern Tools about 6 or 7 . And naturally a Homie De Pot 8 miles in any direction..

Name me some tools! I don't mind buying the quality ones either. Humm,, I do have this new cordless dremel laying over there in the floor.... It would probably make too much noise out in the deer stand tho..

 

[DarrylS]

Name me some tools! I don't mind buying the quality ones either.

...Larry...I'd get me a nice belt sander and disc combo with assorted grits of belts and discs...a 1 or 2 ton arbor press...a decent bench grinder and buffer...You could use the grinder as a buffer but if I had the "green stamps" I'd have both...various buffing wheels and compounds...They have a neat combination drill press, lathe and milling machine for somewhere around $500 bucks that I'd love to have...You'd be able to fabricate all the jigs and fixtures you'd need to modify existing or create new versions of Buck knives with tools like these...I had most of 'em until my garage got cleaned out by some people while I was at work...I still think my wife hired them to do it...

 

[Pack Rat]

...Larry...I'd get me a nice belt sander and disc combo with assorted grits of belts and discs...a 1 or 2 ton arbor press...a decent bench grinder and buffer...You could use the grinder as a buffer but if I had the "green stamps" I'd have both...various buffing wheels and compounds...They have a neat combination drill press, lathe and milling machine for somewhere around $500 bucks that I'd love to have...You'd be able to fabricate all the jigs and fixtures you'd need to modify existing or create new versions of Buck knives with tools like these...I had most of 'em until my garage got cleaned out by some people while I was at work...I still think my wife hired them to do it...

OMG....another hobby I can't find time to play with...

 

[DarrylS]

...If we head back to TIZWIN's original question...Which do you prefer, the drop point or clip point...the 110 drop point that showed up as the BCCI fundraiser has a fine blade and I love the BCCI fundraiser 110. I still have to say that if I had my druthers, I'd still prefer the 426 drop point blade over this new profile if they decided to offer a drop point as a production option. Chances of that happening are slim to none IMHO. I have been sorely tempted to take the blade out of the drop point 426 I recently got and stick it in a nice 110 FG frame and maybe look around for some stag to put on it. I just can't make myself take that pristine 426 apart and do it. Just doesn't seem right to ruin a perfectly good knife that will never be produced again to satisfy my tastes of today. I've thought of having Buck put the drop point being offered as an upgrade into that FG frame but I'm sure it's the new style drop point...it's S30V if I'm not mistaken...and I'd be tempted to try to reprofile it into what the 426 looks like. That would probably be a shame too...Oh well...I like drop points...

 

[buckman#10]

I've thought of having Buck put the drop point being offered as an upgrade into that FG frame but I'm sure it's the new style drop point...it's S30V if I'm not mistaken..

i am trying to get one of tose but joe doesnt think there are any , i just havent heard from sarah yet hopefully she has some pull around there lol

 

[DarrylS]

i am trying to get one of tose but joe doesnt think there are any , i just havent heard from sarah yet hopefully she has some pull around there lol

...Might be a good thing for me. If there are none of those drop points I can't be swayed by temptation to get one and start grinding on a perfectly good blade...LOL...