Clip question Whats thhe deal?

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Why hasn't anyone made a clipnthat has a little spring loaded hinge so it can sit in a little divot in the scale when not in use. This means when the clip is not in use it will sit flush with the surface of the scale. When in use you would push a little tab on the top most portion of the clip which sits above a little see-saw type pin causing the part of the clip below the seesaw pin to pivot out causing the bottom of the clip to rise above the rim of the little divot it sits in allowing it to be clipped on a pocket.

I just think it is a fairly obvious design that I am surprised no one has tried yet.

Now I realize a clip like this could not be switched for leftie carry so you would have to either make right and left handed knives or put one on each side of the knife as they would sit flush they wouldn't get in the way. I realize it is more complex than just a bent wire or tab of metal.

I hope you can picture what I mean.
 
Marfione on the original Sigil collab had a pocket clip like that, it didn't work very well though.
 
Maybe because through prolonged use it would break a lot easier than something normal. Also more machining comes into play and depending on that possibly a little extra weight
 
The lefties would consider this the last straw , rise up and slaughter us all !

On a well designed folder , I find that the clip actually helps in gripping , opening , closing - or at least doesn't actively interfere with function .

The KISS principle . Ever additional gewgaw you add to a folder , especially with more working parts , just creates more failure points .

The LAWK thing on CRKT and other similar crap has conditioned the knife consumer against gimmicks that they can live without .

Still, I'm still kinda surprised that it hasn't been marketed . There's been plenty of dumber stuff .

Maybe you could patent it and be the next Tri-ad lock or Emerson Wave .
 
I understand the KISS idea and all but GG Hawk makes pocket clips that feature complexities. Perhaps the answer is someone should make replacement scales that feature this. While I agree that on some knives clips help with grip on others they don't. I just think a folder that when you went to grip it, it was smooth like a fixed blade handle would be awesome.

And yes the Marfione Sigil is featuring exactly what I am talking about. How awesome! There is another style collapsing pocket clip featured on the Boker Plus federal. How wicked is that.
 
Makes me think of the clip for my insulin pump, which I hate.

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As mentioned above the Sigil was originally made that way and it seems such a great idea but Marfione abandoned the concept for a standard clip.
I wish I waited buying mine because I hardly ever carry it because the clip doesn't work.
 
One reason: Money, Money,Money. From a customer stand point your idea might seem somewhat valid, from a manufacturer stand point..let's say over the course of a year they can make 100 knives for simplistic terms..let's put your clip idea into the mix, now BM can only pump out 75 knives a year. Less money for them, fewer knives for us lol.

Edit: Not to mention your asking for yet another movable mechanical part on a knife, just one more thing you'd have to maintenance/fix.
 
It's one more thing that knife companies would have to warranty. So I guess money like he said before me
 
I would rather just see a recessed groove milled into the scales, allowing a normal style clip to sit flick with the scale. Would cover both the grip interference, as well as the KISS principle.
 
Somewhere in Murphy’s law there’s that old rule that the more moving parts there are in a design, the more places where something can go wrong and fail. Not to say it’s not a neat idea. I think it is, but just don't think it would be as functional.
 
As mentioned above the Sigil was originally made that way and it seems such a great idea but Marfione abandoned the concept for a standard clip.
I wish I waited buying mine because I hardly ever carry it because the clip doesn't work.

I had that knife and the disappearing clip looked neat, but worked terribly. It was the quartermaster-school-of-jagged-hotspots handle design that really made me get rid of it in the end, though. A shame, it was such a pretty knife.
 
Ok fine....

You guys are right. Way to kill the dream. Jaseman is right though. A regular clip in a divot might work though. Thanks for all the great answers. You learn something new everyday.

It's still no reason why every knife with a wave feature doesn't have a removable wave like the Spyderco Pikal though. That's the next feature I'm pushing.
 
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