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I don't do well in 'em and what's worse, I tend to alienate the head clique honcho unprovoked and for absolutely no reason.

I thought that cliques were a teenage phenom.

Oh well.

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Most human behavior is learned by High School.

It really is scary to find out that most people dont grow out of that mindset.

However, it does explain the number of soccer moms in North Texas.

(Now leave me alone while I go read scifi and play with knives) :cool:
 
Hi Dave,

Not a big fan of cliques either.

in my younger days, I used to sort of be an anti clique ring leader, which is to say, I was just in a different clique. I just don't have the energy for that anymore.

Hope you get to feeling better. Your good in my (non clique!) book!

take care,

Tom
 
Never be a follower. If you weren't born to lead others, you were born to lead yourself. And to belong to any clique is to conform, another loss- that of being unique.

:D Dave, you are the lead dog of the Canadian-American Osage Orange Khukuri Club. I'd send my dues north, if I ever sharked one. :D


Mike
 
I don't want to be a part of any group that would accept a guy like me as a member.

;)

Eric

(... with apologies to Woody Allen.)
 
Don't sweat it, Dave. You'll always be one of the gang here:D I understand office politics. I HATE them with a passion. You would think that a person would be able to get along with a company based on the merit of there performance alone...sadly this is rarely the case. I run into the same BS with MY job, and my FAMILY owns the business:rolleyes:

I was never one of the "cool kids" either. I didn't have enough money to be preppy (nor do I like the clothes). I was a jock that loved school, but I wasn't smart enough to be a nerd (like my wife:P). I wasn't a good enough jock to be a sports god, nor did I have the killer instinct for it. I wasn't socially awkward or physically weird looking enough to even be one of the alienated kids that huddled together over Magic the Gathering card games. I never fit in perfectly, and I still don't today. I got along with pretty much everyone (except the preppy kids), so that was nice. In all honesty, not being part of the crowd has never really hindered me in any way shape or form...short of the office related stuff.

You know, a lot of my favorite people on BFC seem to be of similar mindset. How many of us really "fit the profile" of what your average everyday person thinks of when you mention "knife knut"?
 
SamuraiDave said:
Most human behavior is learned by High School.

It really is scary to find out that most people dont grow out of that mindset.
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Scary indeed! Even when I was a teenager I had some concept of the general folly of the age group. I wasn't entirely immune to it myself of course, but like anything, there were varying degrees.

I must chime in with the rest of you placeless misfits who've always related somewhat to Herbie the Elf. :D Let's have a toast with a motley assortment of the beverages of our choice!
 
I thought the internet was one huge clique?

Or is it the opposite?:rolleyes:

Let me know when y'all figure out:thumbup::p;)
 
Welcome to the biggest clique of all. You don't need em'. Good advice from Ad Astra.

Terry
 
C.S. Graves said:
Even when I was a teenager I had some concept of the general folly of the age group.
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That is one of many reasons why we home school our kids. We don't want their primary loyalties or identities to be to their peer age group. We want their loyalties to be to their own family, to each other. Interacting with others is fine too, but we want them to be close to each other for their entire lives.

I have come to think that the age segregated regimentation of the public (and private) schools is to some degree arbitrary, and may represent some form of "divide and conquer", whether intentionally or unintentionally.

over the last few years, I have to come to place more value on what I call "organic" relationships as opposed to "insitutional" ones, whether that be in church or State.

take care,

Tom
 
gravertom said:
That is one of many reasons why we home school our kids. We don't want their primary loyalties or identities to be to their peer age group. We want their loyalties to be to their own family, to each other. Interacting with others is fine too, but we want them to be close to each other for their entire lives.

I have come to think that the age segregated regimentation of the public (and private) schools is to some degree arbitrary, and may represent some form of "divide and conquer", whether intentionally or unintentionally.

over the last few years, I have to come to place more value on what I call "organic" relationships as opposed to "insitutional" ones, whether that be in church or State.

take care,

Tom
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You bring up an interesting point.

When I was a kid we all wanted to be adults, or at least have our own car, house, job and nobody telling us what to do.

Nowdays seems like kids are in their own subculture to a greater degree and at the same time do not seem to value being self supporting as much.
 
You guys are great.

There is nothing wrong with cliques, as said, the Cantina could be construed as one and I'm honoured to be a part of it.

I just find certain behaviours or personality traits... distasteful. I shouldn't judge though, it's not a good thing.
 
Dave Hahn said:
I just find certain behaviours or personality traits... distasteful. I shouldn't judge though, it's not a good thing.
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uh huh. I find many of them in myself!!

Sometimes we shouldn't even judge ourselves. Sometimes we should.

Glad to see your chin up again!

:D

Tom
 
Ad Astra said:
Never be a follower. If you weren't born to lead others, you were born to lead yourself. And to belong to any clique is to conform, another loss- that of being unique.

:D Dave, you are the lead dog of the Canadian-American Osage Orange Khukuri Club. I'd send my dues north, if I ever sharked one. :D


Mike
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Mike's spot on on both counts!:thumbup: :D :cool: And unless you're the Lead Dog the scenery never changes.:barf: ;)
 
C.S. Graves said:
I must chime in with the rest of you placeless misfits who've always related somewhat to Herbie the Elf. :D Let's have a toast with a motley assortment of the beverages of our choice!
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I still watch Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer EVERY Christmas. Herbie, Rudolph and Yukon Cornelius are awesome.

High school is just ridiculous, but sadly i haven't met many people who have ever TRULY grown out of it.
 
Yvsa said:
unless you're the Lead Dog the scenery never changes.:barf: ;)
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Yvsa, I'm filing this one away for my future children:D:thumbup: I think this is much easier to relate to than "If your friends jumped off a bridge, would you?"

Pearl of wisdom there;)
 
Never been much of a clique guy myself.

When young, I tried to be. Tried everything to make people like me. They still didn't, so I decided to go with it.

I'm going to be me and F- them if they don't like it.

I found I have more friends this way, too -- although mostly guys that don't fit in either.

I'll drink to the square pegs out there!
 
I hate Cliques, at the workplace we had one for each shop at the other three buildings. Its a carry over from highschool. I hated school, especially high school, that place looked like a prision, and the violence was bad. All I wanted to do was get out of the boring school life back in that day- back in the 1970's, and start earning a paycheck moving on with my life.

High school has a very high impression factor. Many people I know who are 50 still act and carry on like they were back in grade 11. That kind of behavior turns me off.
 
I don't want to be a part of any group that would accept a guy like me as a member.



Eric

(... with apologies to Woody Allen.)

not to pick nits but, this belongs to Groucho Marx
 
A big clique resides in the ****** ****. :eek:
 
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