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CLOSED, PRE-ORDER, 10" Medium Chopper, 10" HD Medium Chopper

Discussion in 'Carothers Performance Knives' started by Nathan the Machinist, Oct 12, 2018.

  1. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    This pre-order is now closed to new orders, thank you.

    Please post only one time to this thread.
    Please do not make multiple posts or chat. This is my order list and it needs to stay simple and uncluttered or it isn't going to work.

    I estimate it will take about six months for this pre-order to start to ship and possibly longer. I'm only committing to ship before end of next year. If you need something faster this might not be for you.

    These are some pictures of what it doesn't look like:











    ^ Those are prototypes. The production version may have a few more minor tweaks.

    Also. If you would like to special order a heavy duty version of the Medium Chopper (an HD Medium Chopper, the Not-A-Heavy-Chopper heavy chopper) you can order a Heavy Duty Medium Chopper here. It's a thicker version with thicker stock (.250"), taller grinds, smaller fuller and more meat left behind the edge for you knuckle dragging meat heads who break shit. The Heavy Duty Medium Chopper weighs 23.2 ounces, almost exactly in the middle between the standard MC and the 12" Behemoth. Both the standard and HD version have the same bevel grind geometry we're using on the Competition choppers, only thicker for durability. This is a shallow S grind that bites deep, pops a chip well and considering how deep you can bury it, it has minimal binding.

    Jo wrecking some 1X4s with her 10" racing chopper with the same bevel geometry (though thinner):

    She won that race largely due to her unprecedented performance in the 1X4's. I'm not saying that buying an engineered chopper will make you cut like Jo, but it won't hurt.

    They're made of CPM 3V at HRC 60.5 with the Delta heat treat protocol that I believe is the finest heat treat for this material available anywhere. This is an exceptional knife with a combination of toughness and edge retention that will blow your mind.

    The hand grip works as a large camp knife when held towards the front with good balance and dexterity. When held towards the back it fully fills the hand and offers control and reduced hand fatigue for extended hard chopping. Like the HDFK before it, the handle on the new MC is the product of a long iterative process of testing and development. It will impress you.

    It has a forward lanyard hole as used in competition cuts and a hidden rear lanyard hole.

    Delta 3V, 60-61 HRC, .220" thick at ricasso (the HDMC is .250")
    Total length 16"
    Blade length 10"
    Weight 21.1 oz (the HDMC is 23.2 oz)
    Edge angle 20 DPS
    Grippy 3D machined scales in micarta or TeroTuf
    Black oxide treated 18-8 stainless steel fasteners
    Hidden lanyard

    These are all “field grade”, “as machined” and stonewashed with tool and grind marks.

    Price includes a very good kydex sheath

    $495 in canvas micarta, natural or black
    $505 in black linen micarta
    $515 in OD green micarta on black liner
    $525 in natural color burlap micarta
    $525 in black unbuffed TeroTuf on a black micarta liner.
    $595 in antique micarta on a black liner

    There is an excellent kydex sheath included in the price. Your choice of TekLok or drop loop.

    Shipping in the USA is $12.

    "Make mine Heavy Duty" add $75 (this is not a better knife than standard, it is simply more robust)

    Consider ordering yours "unbuffed" for a better grip that's also super ugly.

    Talk to Jo if you want multi color rag micarta (not ideal for this knife), hard ebonite rubber on a liner, or soft rubber inlay over natural micarta. The rubbers are experimental and should not be your only set of scales for your knife, their longevity is unknown.

    Note on the antique micarta: This is very old surplus that I bought up. I don't know who made it, though Westinghouse was the big name in the business back when this would have been made. It is quality material that machines well, polishes evenly and is more thoroughly resin impregnated and harder than material I can find available today. It is proven to be "good stuff". The material is natural color but has aged into a deep brown throughout most of the thickness from oxygen, but there are some areas that are lighter in color, so it is streaky and multi color. It's actually a really cool look IMO. I will book match the pieces as I saw it up and make sure the two sides of the knife are a good match, but you get what you get. If you want light color, multi color or solid dark you can request it and if we have it I'll try to match up people's request with available scales, but understand this color is naturally occurring and varies and you get what you get, probably mostly solid dark brown.

    Here is the order process:

    I'm going to take full payment in advance and hold your money. While I think this is usually a bad policy, so I don't generally recommend it, I've been around a while, my shop is an incorporated business established in 2001, so I'm probably not going anywhere. I will ship your knife when it's finished. Once your order is confirmed there are no refunds, changes or cancellations.

    We're going to order a custom run of 3V for this and this big knife is too large to gang up across two mills and run as a continuous process so, I don't expect them to start to finish up for about six months. They will ship as they're finished in the order that they are ordered in. As I'm building them, some of the knives made will go to this pre-order and some will be sold in regular sales. This means you will see knives being sold while you're waiting for your knife.

    When you place your order it will sit on the order thread for a day or more before we process it. In that time frame you can change your order. So, if you wake up and decide you want one instead of two, or you want micarta instead of TT you can edit your post. Once Jo contacts you (you need email or PM "turned on" or send contact info to her) and you finalize your order it is finalized. Please don't add changes after-the-fact because it is this sort of thing that has made lists unmanageable in the past.

    Jo will contact you to determine your payment preference. Options are check, cash, MO and paypal. You will also need to confirm where you want it shipped. This will be done by Jo the Machinist private message or email.

    This list will be up for a few days.

    If, after a while, you don't hear from us and we don't hear from you, something is getting lost in the interwebs or spam filters. So if you haven't confirmed your order and received your invoice after a week or two you should contact Jo at carothers knives at gmail dought com.

    Jo, Bo, Mark and I appreciate all of your continued interest in our work and your support.

    Thanks for looking.
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2018
  2. AmericanAsApple3.14

    AmericanAsApple3.14 Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 10, 2014

    1 MC...will update with handle choice...

    Update: request black canvas and drop loop sheath.

    Thank you!
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2018
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  3. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member Gold Member

    Mar 20, 2016

    2 x HDMC please:

    1st for CA: darkest chocolaty edgecut antique micarta handle scales, Ti hardware and the drop loop kydex sheath >>> invoiced and paid for this # 1 on 10/15/2018

    2nd destination Iowa: TBD as you will be contacting and hearing from our esteemed leather sheath maker directly!

    Thank you Jo :)
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2018
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  4. bluemax_1

    bluemax_1 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 17, 2014
    1 terotuf HDMC please, with an extra side of Ebonite handles and 2 sets of titanium fasteners.

    :eek: I broke the top 10 outside a gas station? WooHooo!
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2018
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  5. wireman12

    wireman12 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 19, 2017
    (1) HDMC, Edge-cut Antique Micarta on a Black liner w/Dangler. Extra set of 3 color rag Micarta, black-natural-green buffed scales, if possible.
    Thank you. :D
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2018
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  6. CataD

    CataD Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 2, 2013
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  7. TommyGun56

    TommyGun56 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 29, 2014
    2 Heavy Duty Medium Choppers (HDMC) Please

    Edited: After a good nights sleep, I would like to make the following Changes

    1 HDMC with Dark Edge Cut Antique Micarta with Black Liner

    1 HDMC with Multi Color Medium (slightly lighter than Dark),
    Streaky-Multicolor Edge Cut Antique Micarta with Black Liner

    Both with Drop Loop Sheaths

    Both with Titanium Screws

    Thanks Nathan and NinJO:thumbsup::cool:
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2018
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  8. gusbuster

    gusbuster Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 30, 2011
    I’m sorry, but I’m going to have to withdraw.
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2018
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  9. - SpyderMan -

    - SpyderMan - Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 28, 2015
    "Make mine Heavy Duty"

    (1) Heavy Duty Medium Chopper: $505 in black linen micarta - buffed.
    Drop loop sheath.
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2018
  10. JJ_Colt45

    JJ_Colt45 Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 11, 2014
    Edited :

    I would like 1 of the Heavy Duty MCs with unbuffed OD Green Micarta ... and a drop loop on the sheath.

    And I would like a spare set of unbuffed Burlap Micarta scales ... and one extra set of the black oxide stainless steel hardware and one extra set of Ti hardware please.

    Thanks - JJ
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2018
  11. sryt95

    sryt95 Basic Member Basic Member

    Sep 1, 2016
    In for HDMC antique micarta!
    w/ drop loop sheath
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2018
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  12. Tricky Dickey

    Tricky Dickey Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 15, 2012
    1 MC with TeroTuf scales and Teklok

    1 HDMC with TeroTuf scales and Drop loop
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2018
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  13. Grenock

    Grenock Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Apr 7, 2016
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  14. G-Rob-D

    G-Rob-D Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 4, 2016
    I will take a Standard medium chopper with buffed antique micarta scales (dark as you can get) and a TekLok sheath.

    I will also take a Heavy Duty medium chopper with buffed antique micarta scales (dark as you can get) and a TekLok sheath.

    Thank you CPK crew!
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2018
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  15. Ian80

    Ian80 Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 12, 2013
    In for one heavy duty with antique micarta, streaky and a drop loop
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2018
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  16. PolRoger

    PolRoger Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 4, 2007
    "Make mine Heavy Duty"
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  17. Pumpkin 40

    Pumpkin 40 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    May 13, 1999
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  18. Phill50

    Phill50 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 6, 2018
    Yes sir!!

    1 HD

    Edge Grain Antique Micarta dark with Black liners. Drop loop also with titanium screws please.
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2018
  19. Bigalmalloy


    Apr 10, 2015
    I’d like one medium chopper
    Black buffed micarta
    Dangler sheath
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2018
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  20. robloveday


    Jul 19, 2008
    I'll take one in black micarta please
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  21. Mike157

    Mike157 Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 29, 2006
    In for one of each. One medium with unbuffed natural color burlap micarta and one heavy with unbuffed Terotuf. Thank you! Mike
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2018
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  22. Revolverrodger

    Revolverrodger Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 23, 2007
    I will take two !
    One HDMC black micarta drop loop
    One HDMC natural micarta drop loop
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2018
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